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fanman44
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Posted - Jan 20 2014 : 3:48AM
I've often wondered this, because it seems my favorite genre of porn is big dick porn. I can't stand to see the girls get fucked by average size dicks for some reason. I've sat and watched countless Monsters of Cock and Mr Big Dicks episodes where the girl is visibly uncomfortable or shouts out fake !oh yeahs! for the camera, but for some reason I enjoy this a lot. Now there is a small minority of girls who get off on big dicks, and aren't in a lot of pain like Leya Falcon and Angelica Saige, but girls like that few and far between. For every one girl who gets off on a big dick there are three are four who cant take it. Just look at any scene with Ramon, Jack Napier, Billy Glide, Whitezilla.
So do you think liking this genre plays into us secretly wanted to see the girl get challenged by a big dick, and maybe a bit uncomfortable.
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Posted - Jan 20 2014 : 4:09AM
Yes, obviously. That's why this genre of porn sucks. It's not about whether the girl actually enjoys it at all. It's all about satisfying fan demands that every performer be pushed beyond her physical limits.
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Posted - Jan 20 2014 : 6:06AM
Some ladies need big dicks to get any kind of sexual enjoyment. Because they have bigger vaginas caused by giving child-birth.
When a woman is able to take a big-dicked guy really well for a ride, then it's an indirect sign that she probably won't have much problem with giving birth to a baby. It's an indication of her reproductive fitness. Which is naturally attractive for guys, even when they don't fully understand their reason for liking it.
Male hormones make men like things that are good for reproduction automatically, without any need for understanding.
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Posted - Jan 20 2014 : 8:34AM
While childbirth does enlarge the vagina, whether or not it stay that way is up to several factors, including exercise.
Leaving that aside, vaginas are no more uniform in size than are penises.
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Posted - Jan 20 2014 : 11:56AM
To answer OP's question, my answer is "yes."
I also think that for some viewers, there is some level of homoerotic attraction to the large penis; they themselves wonder what it would be like to be on the receiving end of it.
 
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Posted - Jan 21 2014 : 9:25AM
No , I mean it depends , sadistic means that the viewer enjoys the pain of a performer getting such monstrous shaft either vaginally or anally , fact is some girls actually enjoy it , some get off out of it , fisting, double and triple fisting even anally go in the same category.
There are (or were I wasn't a regular) forums with women putting their private stuff with extreme objects , like putting a HUGE inflatable dildo up one's ass all the way , I mean to the point it completely disappear , pump air in it to make it reach a measure so big it can't escape out by itself then go out in the streets among people still with the thing in her , reach an isolated spot , unclothe her lower part and forcefully pull out a thing almost as big as a small ball , her anus enlarged incredibly , then shrink it and put it again and go back home with that thing inside again.
or another one going outside and doing almost the same but this time it was nothing inflatable she put some kind of chain with a wench and fixed it to something inside then she tied some weights to the chain more and more so that the weight would pull out what was inside , it was a big metal ball (I still wonder how she put that thing in) , contrarily to the inflated dildo this had a hard surface and her anus had to stretch out with no help on the stuff part. The moment it begun to go out with her rolling her ass to enhance the pressure from the weights she begun to moan with an incredible peak when the thing came out.
one of them impaled herself in her room with a fire extinguisher from the base to well over it's half and then begun to pump herself with it.
no one paid those girls they did that for their own pleasure
Edited by - LCF on 1/21/2014 9:29:38 AM
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Posted - Jan 21 2014 : 10:48AM
Funny how Mandingo and Lex are able to service the girls without being abusive and/or hurting them.
One of the turn-ons in a Mandingo scene is how the girls all start off a bit tentatively, then, as the scene progresses take on more-and-more. Sometimes (more often than you'd think), I've seen the girls literally bouncing up and down on Mandingo's entire cock (i.e. cowgirl and reverse cowgirl) by the end of the scene, and you can hear her ass slapping against Mandingo.
This is so hot to see a girl handling a cock this size, and significant because in CG and RCG the girl has virtually total control over the amount and nature of the penetration.
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Posted - Jan 21 2014 : 11:42AM
I have noticed this too. Ironically, the Mandingo movies that claim to be "massacres" of epic proportions are often some of the sweeter/caring and more sensual scenes. This has to be an unspoken part of the appeal of his films.
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Posted - Jan 21 2014 : 12:11PM
Nah, if this was true, then EVERY b/g porn would be fulfilling some homoerotic fantasy.
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Posted - Jan 21 2014 : 12:18PM
I hate size kings for the same reason you listed. I want to see girls enjoy sex, not getting wrecked. Plus, size kings think porn is all about them.
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Posted - Jan 21 2014 : 12:23PM
Don't agree with the homo statement, I can't stand naked guys at the gym and the idea of doing anything sexually related with another man really well let's say puts me off, I won't use a stronger term out of respect for the gay readers in here and I have nothing against people doing their thing. I do find the male performer and his cock size important in certain scenarios for example: I became a huge Kleio fan when I saw her "missing" scene when she blew a guy with a pretty massive cock and took pretty much all of it, it looks hot then again something turns me on about seeing a porn star suck on a smaller than average cock (just seeing how easily they do it looks hot).
I get most turned on when the guy is fucking the girl really well and you can see she's enjoying it (see scene with Michelle Lay and Xander).
I can't get into a scene like the one where Jack Napier fucks Charity Bangs and he spends about three quarters of the scene trying to get inside her pussy and the rest of the time she's just in absolute pain... I don't see the sense in a porn scene where the girl isn't enjoying it.
Girls like Phoenix Marie look like they're always having a great time with big cock so I enjoy seeing them with larger dicks. Then you get tiny girls like Kristina Rose who look like they struggle to take in big cock at first but the look on her face is mostly pleasure which is hot too.
I'd say that if you enjoy big dicks in scenes simply because the girl is in pain. I would definitely say there is a sadistic element there but if for reasons I mentioned then I'd say no.
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Posted - Jan 21 2014 : 2:02PM
Yes and the most interesting part are the signals between them , you see him halfway and the star nodding then you see him go more and the star nodding again in some cases the star put an hand on his ass and pushes him to go all the way
Some stars put an hand between them to make him know the limit but either they don't put any or remove it giving him complete control either in trust or lust

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Posted - Jan 21 2014 : 7:58PM
I think you may be wrong on this. The issue is women not liking HUGE dicks, not big dicks. I think if you asked most women not only enjoy, but prefer big dicks over average or small ones.
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Posted - Jan 22 2014 : 9:08AM
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It's a minority, every study made on women say the same , I think you misinterpreted a study on girth rather than length , they do prefer a bigger girth but a vagina is 4 or 5 inches deep in average most of the time if you're too big you will hit the cervix and this could be painful, very few women like such treatment ,and actually there's a thread on the subject , also a hard or very hard dick would also be preferred over a bigger one not so hard
fanman44
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Posted - Jan 22 2014 : 12:41PM
most chicks cant take Dingo balls deep. Though there are exceptions like I previously mentioned, Angelica Saige
 
fanman44
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Posted - Jan 22 2014 : 12:42PM
they kind of have to. If guys like Mandingo went rough, the chicks would get hurt.
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Posted - Jan 22 2014 : 1:06PM
Which is the whole point!
Many big guys do go "rough" and "hurt" the girls; Mandingo and Lex don't.
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Posted - Jan 22 2014 : 1:25PM
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They do even without being rough , Remy Lacroix decided to not work any more with Lex because after a scene with him she need a week to recover and she can't work all the time.
this has been reported by Kevin Moore in Lexington's thread.
On the other hand Leya Falcon likes it rough , she not only took Mandingo balls deep but actually asked him to go rough and then lamented he wasn't rough enough they did another scene yet to be released in which he went rough and anal full throttle so to speak and yet she said it was better but would prefer even rougher
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Posted - Jan 22 2014 : 3:39PM
Because of the marketing, I've never watched one of Mandingo's scenes. Can either of you recommend one to start with?
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Posted - Jan 22 2014 : 4:19PM
Either Mandingo Massacre 3 with Lily Labeau , Chastity Lynn, London Keyes and Jacky Joy or Mandingo Massacre 5 with Anikka Albrite , Christie Stevens, Cindy Starfall , Skin Diamond and Eva Angelina
Mandingo Hide your Wives with Lisa Ann, Julia Ann , Nikki Sex (first IR go figure)
Lily Labeau scene is off the chart , Anikka Albrite was outstanding he lost it halfway and resumed to finish again also extremely good were Cindy Starfall a very new stars completely unknown back them and there was Skin Diamond
That of Lisa is her first with him I believe she's a litte in struggle in there than she was in Mandingo Massacre 1 where she seemed much more used to him, but then she did 3other scenes with him each surpassing the other ,her peak in Mandingo Massacre 7 for the rough anal in which also stars Riley Reid but that was her second scene with him , her first was in MM6 and not only me but also the Dingo couldn't believe a little thin thing like her took it all in cowgirl and reverse cowgirl, amazing (this scenes has been AVN awarded for a reason)
MM 4 was also a great movie with an incredible almost all anal scene from Kagney Lynn Karter riding him on a chair she did it rough.
There's also a scene with Julia Ann even better than her previous
All the scenes with Chastity Lynn (3) she kisses him a lot and has a way to put her feet behind her head and takes him that way even a balls deep anal in Mandingo UNchained , she was absolutely outstanding in there never see anybody else taking him that deep up the ass , you could barely see the balls.
I can't get a picture on the web I have to capture it from my copy (treasured) of the DVD but I can't right now

Edited by - LCF on 1/22/2014 4:36:05 PM

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Posted - Jan 22 2014 : 4:35PM
Apathy seems more likely than sadism. Viewers don't care if the performers are in pain, joy, or both, as long as holes get penetrated.
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Posted - Jan 22 2014 : 4:38PM
^
Actually not , not me anyway a woman in pain is a turn off a woman woman in struggle but so aroused to want to take it as much as she can is a turn on
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Posted - Jan 22 2014 : 9:42PM
I just watched some of the trailers, and I'm still in shock. I guess I was put off by the racist overtones in his stage name, and had never seen him before.
Of the trailers I watched, MM5 seemed the most appealing. I like the cast, and both Skin and Eva looked amazing. That said, you're right, Lily Labeau looked great in her scene too.
fanman44
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Posted - Jan 22 2014 : 11:17PM
Yeah I think Leya's masochistic. She talks about how she loves the pain with guys like Lex and Jack. Taking Lex in the ass has to be absurd. Was looking through the pictures with Lex and Sheena Shaw, that stretch is ridiculous!
fanman44
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Posted - Jan 22 2014 : 11:21PM
Its true. Which is why I often avoid the mid 2000s circus porn. The chicks clearly arent enjoying it
 
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Posted - Jan 23 2014 : 7:51AM
Actually his flicks are the least racist of all, they even barely notice he's black though is dick is labelled as a big black one
Edited by - LCF on 1/23/2014 7:52:25 AM
fanman44
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Posted - Jan 23 2014 : 10:53AM
Yup. That's a good thing about Mandingo. Although, I've heard from girls he's extremely hard to take. At least Giselle Leon said that
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Posted - Feb 15 2014 : 3:59PM
hahahahhahah! Mandingo is extremely easy to take! And I mean extremely. He has a big dick but he is very much not rough or aggressive and his dick is straight with no curve which makes it even easier to take.
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Posted - Feb 15 2014 : 4:24PM
^ Is "it" as big in person as it looks onscreen?
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Posted - Mar 7 2014 : 9:59AM
Interesting post. Im certainly a fan and that maybe for my ignorant or naive view that with something of that size the girls are probably not faking it. I also think that a pornstars progression through the industry should be to start off small and steadily go bigger and do steadily more rotic scenes and pushing thier boundaries. So starting off with normal scenes and eventually reaching scenes like dp's and gangbamgs at the twilight stages of their career. Just my thought really.
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Posted - Mar 7 2014 : 6:09PM
In general I'd suggest that it's about a desire to see an authentic reaction from the female performer.
You wrote:
Even if the performer is shouting "Oh yeah!" you see that she is uncomfortable and it brings into focus the reality of the sex onscreen. The physical reaction is real. You know it's not being faked. I think that is why you and many others enjoy that kind of porn.
Personally, I'm fine with something like MOC as long as the girl is getting off and isn't struggling to keep her composure for the entire shoot. I watch porn so that I can see my fantasies acted out. Painful sex that does not result in orgasm and you wish would soon end isn't a fantasy of mine, but as long as she begins enjoying it as some point I'm there.
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Posted - Mar 7 2014 : 10:56PM
Interesting post. Im certainly a fan and that maybe for my ignorant or naive view that with something of that size the girls are probably not faking it. I also think that a pornstars progression through the industry should be to start off small and steadily go bigger and do steadily more rotic scenes and pushing thier boundaries. So starting off with normal scenes and eventually reaching scenes like dp's and gangbamgs at the twilight stages of their career. Just my thought really.
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