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| artifacti Deactivated User 10 Posts 8/08 |  Posted - Aug 28 2008 : 4:23AMWe all remember the famous Tyra Banks show where Sasha Grey participated. Later Sasha has mentioned that show in many interviews. In that show they also featured a teenage prostitute girl, Victoria, and a former pornstar named Tianna. In the show Tianna tried to give Sasha some advice about the pornindustry and the risks being in it. But Sasha didn´t listen to these advice, she just closed her mind and went angry. Obviously those advice created such animosity in Sashas mind against Tianna that she later attacked her in an interview in a magazine: http://www.bizarremag.com/sleaze/interviews/6438/sasha_grey.html?xc=1 In that interview she calls Tianna and the young girl for “these two ringers”. And she refers to Tianna as “that fat bitch”, and “a fucking hooker turned pornstar”. Okey, Tyras show wasn´t the best in the world, but for Sasha to attack and insult a fellow performer in an interview in a net magazine is both low, unprofessional and mean. To attack someone (with more experience) who just tries to give good advice is childish and immature. I hope Sasha Grey will grow up and become more mature as a human being and as a professional, otherwise I can not see any good future for her, and she will for sure end up alone without friends. Edited by - Artifacti on Aug 28 2008  [Link] |
| zaffer Member 208 Posts 8/08 | Posted - Aug 28 2008 : 5:26AM Every body have argued with another professional - I hope not everybody fails and dies alone, right? As a matter of fact everybody have argued with friends or relatives too - and that is much more certain way to end up with no friends than calling somebody that you don't know or you don't care about "fat bitch".  Is it me or the Sasha Grey ass gets bigger? If there is something that I'm worried about Sasha is if she will loose her sweet ass  .Edited by - zaffer on 8/28/2008 5:31:56 AM  [Link] |
| artifacti Deactivated User 10 Posts 8/08 | Posted - Aug 28 2008 : 5:42AM [Link] |
| zaffer Member 208 Posts 8/08 | Posted - Aug 28 2008 : 6:01AM There is a book of Max Weber I'm reading now - in the second edition Weber argues way too much with everybody that doesn't like the first edition no matter that many of the exposed argument by his opponents are quite true. And Weber is definitely not the only one. Of course porn is not science but since such great minds argue with each I found it normal other people to do it too. Plus many of the arguments in their debate have nothing to do with the science and it's not uncommon to insult each other.But she is giving her advices - many people doesn't like such behavior - including me. Edited by - zaffer on 8/28/2008 6:03:59 AM Edited by - zaffer on 8/28/2008 6:04:16 AM [Link] |
| Shagdog Member Houston 626 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Aug 28 2008 : 6:33AM Anyone who seen the interview knew it was a set up. They were trying to shame and humiliate Sasha into breaking down and say she would quit porn. Sasha did not accept their shame and humiliation, and rightly so. She has done nothing to be ashamed of. Did Tianna give Sasha advice on how to have a successful porn career. NO she didn't. Sasha is with in her rights to be pissed at “that fat bitch”, and “a fucking hooker turned pornstar”. [Link] |
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| artifacti Deactivated User 10 Posts 8/08 | Posted - Aug 28 2008 : 7:39AM And to publicly attack someone who tries to give good advice, based on true life experience, and to backtalk people in some interview, don´t giving the backtalked a chance to defend herself, is for sure more bad than trying to give some good advice. About calling Tianna a lot of names, Tianna just seems much sounder, more intelligent, nicer and gentler than Sasha Grey. And to think so, one doesn´t have to be a troll. Edited by - artifacti on 8/28/2008 9:39:30 AM [Link] |
| threesomebody Official BlowBang Judge Would you like my autograph? 2491 Posts 12/04 | Posted - Aug 28 2008 : 10:02AM *yawn* Next topic please. [Link] |
| alexl467 Member Bklyn, NY 873 Posts 4/03 | Posted - Aug 28 2008 : 10:27AM alexl467 [Link] |
| backdoorman Senior Member Shake for me girl... I wanna be your backdoorman ! 2776 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Aug 28 2008 : 11:18AM [Link] |
| Shagdog Member Houston 626 Posts 1/07 | Posted - Aug 28 2008 : 5:42PM Didn't sound like good advice too me. Here's life experience for you. Unsolicited advice usually brings a "fuck off creep" response [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Aug 28 2008 : 5:44PM First. Sasha was pretty much singled out because she's smart and gorgeous and pretty much could have done anything she wanted. The anti porners have always contended that women go into porn because they have no choice. Sasha Proves this is not always true so she had to be attacked. They thought that they could get her to agree that she was a "victim" on that show and they were wrong. The former porn star (it turns out) barely even did any porn. [Link] |
| ChodeMasterJ Perpetual Marxist 5405 Posts 4/03 | Posted - Aug 29 2008 : 12:25AM [Link] |
killbillvol69  All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Aug 29 2008 : 12:31AM [Link] |
| skronker Notable Legendary Icon Scopophiliac 9780 Posts 9/02 | Posted - Aug 29 2008 : 1:08AM [Link] |
| moodyblues Member 307 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Aug 29 2008 : 1:18AM [Link] |
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| nightwing Member 44 Posts 7/08 | Posted - Aug 29 2008 : 3:07AM Dont look down on girls like her Sasha in my eyes you are no different. imo porn as great as it is will always be glorified hooking. [Link] |
| artifacti Deactivated User 10 Posts 8/08 | Posted - Aug 29 2008 : 3:47AM When people are nice to you and want you to avoid the same mistakes as they have done then they don´t need any snappy comments and backtalking. It seems that Sasha thinks she is something more than these girls, well she isn´t, she is also just a hooker, even if she is it before a camera. [Link] |
| artifacti Deactivated User 10 Posts 8/08 | Posted - Aug 29 2008 : 3:48AM [Link] |
| Dean Wormer Senior Member Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son. 1048 Posts 7/04 | Posted - Aug 29 2008 : 4:49AM [Link] |
| artifacti Deactivated User 10 Posts 8/08 | Posted - Aug 29 2008 : 5:09AM Tianna was called Kimmie Lee when she was a pornstar and she is featured in 16 different movies. She was active between 2004 and 2006 [Link] |
| zaffer Member 208 Posts 8/08 | Posted - Aug 29 2008 : 5:21AM Edited by - zaffer on 8/29/2008 5:22:14 AM [Link] |
| artifacti Deactivated User 10 Posts 8/08 | Posted - Aug 29 2008 : 5:57AM [Link] |
| zaffer Member 208 Posts 8/08 | Posted - Aug 29 2008 : 6:03AM [Link] |
| ronin3 Member 82 Posts 10/07 | Posted - Aug 29 2008 : 6:27AM Since you have voiced your opinion on the same level as someone who is deeply jealous of the success and independence of Sasha Grey, we can also assume that you have nothing better to do than hide behind criticising others while your activities are not held to the exact same standard. In other words, who gives a rats behind what you think when you haven't contributed one percent of what Sasha Grey has done for this industry. The "interview " was an attempt to ambush Sasha into accepting their opinions of her life as a reason to change her life. She declined the offer. She was also "used" as a means to create income and increase viewer support for the show. I believe she was smart enough to point this out but it was immediately edited out from the content for the viewing audience. You clearly admit that the show was not balanced by the fact that no one was called upon who agreed with or supported Sashas views about the industry. In essence, the way they used their position to attack Sasha is the same thing that she is doing to return the favor. I don't have a problem with someone trying to even the score and that's pretty much all this is about. It's old history and most of us formed an opinion at that time. Not much has changed to hash this out again and again. By the the way, artifacti, I would really be interested in seeing the newspaper clippings about you and the awards for excellence that you received when "you" were 20 years old. That would really bump up the credibility of your opinion on this subject. [Link] |
| artifacti Deactivated User 10 Posts 8/08 | Posted - Aug 29 2008 : 8:12AM If Sasha was not happy with the show she could attack Tyra, because Tyra was the one that aired the show. Tianna and Victoria were only guests. It´s just low, mean and childish of Sasha to attack these guests, especially Tianna. Also she backtalked Victoria since she called her and Tianna for "these ringers", as if she was in any way better than they. And Victoria never said anything about Sasha in the show. The only thing Sasha has done for the industry is that she has made it nastier, more cold, disgusting, violent and that she has lowered the treshhold for abuse and violence. Before people like Sasha came about there were at least some decensy, humour and warmth in some movies, but Sasha, and people like her is mainstreaming a more extreme, hard, dehumanizing kind of porn that many people also in the business don´t see as an approvement but rather a regression of porn to a more primitive and raw stadium. I can be proud that I have no clips that show me when I was 20 years old making porn a worse and less human industry. Sasha has nothing to be proud over, she just contributes to the destruction of lust in porn and erotica. Edited by - artifacti on 8/29/2008 8:15:00 AM [Link] |
| MrFuckinSunshine Member I read your blog you magnificent bastard! 274 Posts 12/05 | Posted - Aug 29 2008 : 10:30AM   [Link] |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Aug 29 2008 : 10:47AM 1. You're hear to trash a very popular performer who you feel is responsible for changing porn in a very negative way. If you truly believe this, it simply means you don't know much about the porn industry and its progression over the last 20 years, never mind the last two. It also means you don't know that much about Sasha's career, since she has done many different types of movies. 2. You also came to say that you thought that something she said almost two years ago, likely in passing, in regards to a show that was more of an attack on her than a legitimate interview, was not nice. Fine. It's been discussed to death on forums everywhere for the past two years; let it go. 3. You feel terrible for Tianna because Sasha Grey wasn't very nice to her. Fine. People say much worse things than Sasha said about people everywhere every day. No one cares; I doubt Tianna even cares about it, so I don't know why you should. My opinion: one of two things is going on. Either 1. You don't even watch porn, know nothing about it, came across this Sasha Grey thing and decided to add your two cents so you could feel important. or 2. You are Tianna. Now, please let this very tired topic rest. [Link] |
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| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18634 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Aug 29 2008 : 10:49AM [Link] |
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| Elvira Deactivated User 1 Posts 8/08 | Posted - Aug 30 2008 : 5:39AM Also I hear you say that Tyra tried to humiliate Sasha in the show. Well I just have to say: nothing Tyra can do comes even close to the humiliation that Sasha brings upon herself in some of her movies. The things she does there shoes that she has no selfrespect whatsoever and that she must have thrown her dignity overboard a long time ago. So if Tyra was somewhat judgemental than it was because Sasha Grey brought it upon herself by participating in extreme scenes and acting in a manner that you sometimes couldn´t imagine from a human being. And about the backtalk: it seems that it´s so easy for Sasha to backtalk those two girls since they are not rich or famous. The person who administred and lead the show was Tyra, so if she should have backtalked and dropped names it should be on Tyra. But I bet she don´t dare that because Tyra is mighty, very rich, very famous, and she could sue the crap out of Sasha if Sasha would have dared backtalking her. I can agree that people like Sasha Grey destroys porn, gives porn a bad reputation, introduces more and more humiliation, violence and degradation in the business. Sasha Grey is among the worst things that happened to the porn business in many, many years! Nuff said! [Link] |
| Dave_K99 Member 497 Posts 12/07 | Posted - Aug 30 2008 : 7:47AM You could have made it less obvious by not making this your very first post.  Someone can enjoy more extreme porn and still give a crap about the people in it.It's not like all of Sasha's movies are softcore fluff.  Sasha has talked about Tyra Banks on numerous occasions. Why should she keep her mouth shut about someone who arrogantly talked over her and insisted that her agent was her pimp, just because she used to be a fellow performer?Wow! Who knew that Sasha Grey was such a powerful force in porn? Remind me, which major companies does she run?As if she'd have been a success if there wasn't already a demand for harder gonzo porn from the consumers... (I know, I shouldn't feed the trolls) [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Aug 30 2008 : 8:37AM Good one![Link] |
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