I am serious she is only 19 started at 18 and is way more talented than any other girl in porn by a long shot. Sasha suckes cock better than any other girl takes up the ass like a pro and begs for more I even seen her with nipple clamps on getting electric shock torture and she still walked away victiorus. She looks awasome from head to toe and to top it off on her myspace i called her a "dumb cunt" and she replied "smart cunt dont you mean". I love her wise ass.. I only seen 1 girl than can match her greatness and maybe be better the "Michael Jordan" of porn Jenna Haze.. Sasha Is amazing I wanna gag fuck her throat so bad..
I find Sasha Grey very talented too, I've enjoyed several of her scenes but I wouldn't say she's the best girl by a long shot, I don't even think Sasha would say that. There are plenty of hot talented girls in this business both feature and gonzo-- Stormy, Hillary, Jenna Haze, Bella, Jesse Jane, Bree Olson, Carmen Luvana just to name a crossover group of ladies I think are quite amazing to watch and I definitely put Sasha Grey up there at this moment.
I don't know i just don't wanna see her fuck on camera. I skip her scenes. Im mean she seems smart, very beautiful and sexy so it really makes no sense. Maybe it's something that comes off too calculated about her porn. I would like to hang around and chatt with her because she seems very cool, but seing her fuck does nothing for me. Strange.
zorge wrote: Who's the Anderson Varejao to Sasha's Lebron? The guy with the electic shock + clamps was more like larry hughes.. was was the name of that porn sasha in device bondadge? shit was intense i could not even beat off to it I was in aw...
I don’t watch the NBA so I don’t know about that comparison, but I know Sasha is one of the best performers working today and an all-around nice person.
To play devil's advocate here for a second (because actually I am a huge Sasha fan) I wonder just how big she is. While at line at AEE one fan just wanted a signature and she told him "Sorry I need to put a name on it". Why?? Is Sasha's autograph selling for that much on EBay or naughty bids??? I found that a little ridiculous. Edited by - phatbasey on 1/25/2008 4:00:05 PM
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Posted - Jan 25 2008 : 4:46PM
Wow its getting deep in this thread. The Labron James of the porn world give me a break. She isnt even in the top ten hottest girls who have entered porn in the last two years. As far as a performer decent but yet again I could probable name 10 to 20 girls that are better performers who have entered in the last two years. To be honest Sasha isnt even in the same league as Bree Olsen
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Posted - Jan 25 2008 : 4:53PM
10 girls who have entered in the last 2 years Id rate ahead of Sasha 1 Bree Olsen 2 Kendall Brookes 3 Ava Rose 4 Kayden Kross 5 Nikki Kane 6 Lachelle Marie 7 Paulina Jaymes 8 Ginger Lee 9 Lela Starr 10 Jenny Hendrix Im sure I could name 10 more as well
I hear Bree is a sweet girl but she's one of the fakiest "actresses" ever ... Very hot girl, though. Off your list, I'll give you Jenny (as long as she chows down a few cheeseburgers and doesn't lose more weight) ... But even the hotter girls on that list look a little too conventionally "porn princess." I think there are more visceral performers than SG, in some rock'n'roll animal sense of the concept, but not by too much, and I'd go more with Annette Schwarz, Adrianna Nicole, Lorelei Lee, Chelsea Rae, Nika, Bobbi Starr ... girls with some fetish/BDSM model background and or just pure voracious fuck monsters, or too glamorous to be so filthy ... etc. Sasha's thing is her versatility and intelligence, so in a way she can be all those types of girls for any specific scene, .... but she has a "style" and, sure, it's not for everyone. I doubt she'd want it to be. (I'm not that into Tory Lane these days, but she'd be another kind of example ...) My idea of performance for a female porn star has to do with the intensity of her aggression or aggressive submisson (topping from the bottom) ... I mean, c'mon ... there are a LOT of pretty little girls doing porn, but they are more having things done to them ... they often aren't very active participants (if it's hardcore gonzo fucking you want to see). Edited by - skronker on 1/25/2008 5:23:38 PM
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Posted - Jan 25 2008 : 5:25PM
Say what you want But if I was to put a girl on a box to sell movies Id wwant the ones on my list before Sasha cause I think they would out sell Sasha. Sasha has to do more bacause the plain truth is she just isnt as hot as the girls on that list
I havent find any personality in Sashas scenes, or she have been hiding any personality with alot of attitude. But i have only watched a few scenes of her so..
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I'd like to stay but I've got a plane to catch. 3243 Posts 5/06
Posted - Jan 25 2008 : 5:44PM
Does Sasha possess a crossover dribble or is she starting an advertising campaign with Nike?
Hot girls shooting contract-studio porn. Eh. No thanks (Stoya + Adrenalynn currently excused from this assessment ...) But, then again, I don't watch porn for the boxcovers ... but put just about any girl on an Elegant Angel boxcover right now and I bet it jumps. They're doing the best boxes of any company in porn right now. Edited by - skronker on 1/25/2008 6:08:05 PM
It just goes to show there really is something for everyone in this business and that is part of it's appeal for me. I can easily go from enjoying a Bree Olson scene to one from Sasha, one from Carmen Luvana and then one from Georgia Peach! It's all in the vibe for me, what I gleem from watching the girl and yeah a lot or some of that energy is for show but it's how they do that which reels me in and after five years of reviewing porn it's still not old for me, the newness/ excitement level is still there even for a performer I've known about for some time. sorry to rant there a bit
I like some of them but that is based on what they did BEFORE they signed their contracts. They might have done some great stuff later but i tend to ignore those non-gonzo movies. Edited by - hitit on 1/25/2008 6:18:48 PM
Or, some people just don't know the good shit when they see it ... arf, arf. My own tastes change constantly. Edited by - skronker on 1/25/2008 6:31:47 PM
You want a toe? I can get you a toe 1131 Posts 4/06
Posted - Jan 26 2008 : 12:29AM
I know bree olsen is rather fake but does it really matter? Im sure a lot of the girls are faking their scenes and are very different once the camera stops rolling but she does her on screen job very well.
Well, yes. Would it matter if Charlize Theron is fake in a film role or brings some authenticity to it? Does it really make a difference if an actress in a bad movie or TV soap infuses her character with authenticity and charm? Yes. Yes it does. Why does it then not really matter if a pretty porn star comes off as barely genuine and any one of her performances of one of the most dynamic human activities so wooden you can imagine Greenpeace guys strapping themselves to it? There's a misconception that if the girl is good looking enough, it doesn't matter how she goes about her sexual performances, she's hot shit. It's what she does (anal, oil enemas) and how she looks, not so much how she goes about it. I'm really not a Bree Olson fan. Her heart and head may be into the whole porn sex fiend thing, but I don't see enough to convince me. Sasha on the other hand has lived up to and deserved the hype, because she communicates exactly what she thrills to about sex, and her performances resonate with her personality and intent. I like that she has come onto the porn scene when she has, because she shows us what sexual charisma can really be like. Having big tits and giggling while getting sodomised isn't enough, something of the soul and the imagination can elevate the act of sex to something worth watching. Sasha deserves the accolades she has received and then some.
Skronker, my friend, you could not be any more wrong about Bree. I find her to be very real and honest and up front. She does give 100% to please you, though, which may come off as being entirely unbelievalbe, but that's a tough one to fault her on. She has her own perversions and loves to see you go deep into your own....then she comes along for the ride. Bree is an ultimate pleaser!
zorge wrote: [/quote] But is she good at creating her own shot? Can she knock it down from outside? [/quote] Not sure what you mean, please explain further.
This Sasha/LeBron comparison has gotten me worried about the Triple-Double stat (not to mention the Quadruple-Double). How would that even work in porn? Three DP's in one scene? I'm not sure if Sasha's ever pulled that off, but I'm sure she will one day. Three double-anals in a row? That's been done by others. Whatever, this thread seems to have brought out the Sasha haters. And don't try to tell me you're not a "hater". Otherwise, you wouldn't care enough to post on this thread. I love ya, Sasha!
Oh wait, I figured out. A Triple-Double would be, in one scene, any combination of three of the following: - Double Penetration - Double Vag - Double Anal - Double BJ Has that ever been done? I'd also like to see somebody attempt the Quadruple-Double. BTW, I'm not much of a LeBron fan. I do think he's an amazing player, but he bugs me personally.
I think she's cool ... It's just the way it comes across doesn't appear natural ... but I know it's all "performance," even the realest seeming stuff is. Of course, Brandon ... as we discuss in the podcast, you've had access to parts of Bree most of us will never know ... ;) Edited by - skronker on 1/26/2008 1:08:39 PM
Natural vs. Faking vs. Performance ... My thought is, that it is extremely uncommon for girls to do gang bangs, DPs and blow bangs, and multiple rounds of same (like in the Gauntlet, NCDA, etc.) in real life. Of course the girl is performing and I enjoy the girl playing to the camera to a moderate degree: looking at the camera, showing off multiple loads of jizz in her mouth, some dirty talk to the camera or "trash talking." If the girl is enjoying the sex, having fun, and has a lot of energy, then that is a hot performance, although some would call it faking. When it is performing for the camera AND the girl is genuinely enjoying it, that my favorite kind of porn scene. Of course the playing to the camera can get way over the top (like the frequently criticised quack quacking during oral scenes). Maybe some examples would help me make my point. Marie Luv, Jasmine Byrne (both in NCDA5), Claire Robbins in Teenage Spermaholics 4. These are high energy performances from women enjoying themselves. Great porn. But none of this appears to be "natural." It's great performance of sex for the camera: great porn. For me, Mysti May (Teenage Spermaholics 5), Kelly Wells (Semen Sippers 4) are over the top performers. Quack Quackers, too much trash talk, crossing into really fake. Not so great porn to me. I put Bree Olson in the Marie Luv, Jasmine Byrne, Claire Robbins category: awesome, hot, energetic performer. To me, Sasha Grey is between the 2 camps, but most of the time, I put her in the Mysti May / Kelly Wells camp, just a bit too much performance, playing to the camera for me. However, as the original poster noted, Sasha's cock sucking / deep throating is absolutely astounding. The fact that she could take such extreme face fucking at the tender age of 18 is incredible. So perhaps my original premise needs some revision: for Sasha to be so nasty-skilled in oral from her very first scenes means she may have been a super-energetic, super-nasty (in a good way) freak off-camera and pre-porn ... So I am just expressing my preferences, my favorite performers and style of performance. Bottom line it is all performance, so I think "natural vs. fake" is a false dichotomy for evaluating porn performances.
Good points. Claire Robbins ..... *sigh* Having been to a gang bang recently, I can tell you that what ends up on the video is one thing but the thing itself is just a lot of hard work for the girl ... and not really much fun. I mean, the paycheck is fun. And not that it can't be fun, but it all depends. I'll tell you who I think is amazing, is Isabel Ice ... she's my very favorite kind of performer. And the greatest performer of all time is Debi Diamond. Everyone out of that line is a winner. Edited by - skronker on 1/26/2008 1:57:54 PM
You're right, I'm sure a gangbang is a lot of work for the girl. I would hope something like a "mini-gang bang", say 3 or 4 guys, could actually be fun for the girl, too. But 12-20 guys has got to be A LOT of hard work. What you said makes the performances of Marie, Jasmine, Claire, and I'll throw in a recent classic, Keri Sable (in Cum Filled Asshole Overload 2), all the more impressive. Maybe those scenes could be compared to a triathlon: a lot of hard work, but at least satifying to the performer to be able to pull it off and complete something so challenging so well ... Keri Sable seemed kind of like that to me in the BTS of CFAHO2 and certainly deserving of a LARGE paycheck. Debi Diamond's gang bangs are amazing/legendary. I will have to check out Ms. Ice. Any recommended movies of hers? Thanks.
Skronk, I consider myself to be in Bree's inner circle...and by inner circle I mean her "o" ring. If you ever have a chance to go there, run, don't walk. It's a beautiful place to visit and hang out.
I realise she's very popular, but she doesn't do anything for me. And the whole "oh, she's so intelligent" thing is just stupid. Mentioning Sartre on a porn forum once or twice doesn't make you a Nobel laureate, and it certainly doesn't make you a better performer in adult movies. Edited by - Len Nicodemo on 1/26/2008 8:07:52 PM
I'm not sure what you all are arguing about, but I want a Sasha Grey jersey!! Hey, I think I remember her playing some bball in Black Cock Addiction 2!! Can we all agree that she's got mad skills yo and you know you want to try to take her on one on one and drive to the hole on her. We already know that she's got great post skills, as well as nailing the 3 from anywhere on the court. But aaw heck it'd probably just end up being a 3 second violation for non-leaguers lucky enough to get to play with her! Ok, I'm done.
everything about this girl just does it for me....so I guess she is like the Lebron James of porn, b/c she can do it all...
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I love America 650 Posts 8/05
Posted - Jan 26 2008 : 8:54PM
Descartes: To do is to be. Sartre: To be is to do. Sinatra: To be do be do. Me: To be do be do. I've never heard of this Labron James guy either, he's the Sasha Grey of what?
Somebody had to say it. It's amazing though how much of an impact the Sartre talk had on some ADT members. Good marketing from Sasha, even if it looks like a confidence trick. Regardless of how immersed in Sartre and Godard and their thematic and intellectual preoccupations she was or is, the fact remains that people like to feel smart, so when their hot new porn star starts spouting bits and pieces of existentialism, the porn fan who prides himself on having maybe studied Sartre a few years ago or saw Vivre Se Vie back in the day, is immediately enamoured of her intelligence, and in one so young...and so willing to do nasty things! Very clever self-promotion. Beyond that though, there's a lot going on in her scenes. It's fun to watch her face during the tease and in the throes of coitus. I think there's a fair bit going on behind those eyes, and combined with her sexual abandon, that's why I'm a fan.
@Ultrasiet2: I think you're being overly harsh. It's not very uncommon to be into alt. or counter culture in her phase of life, and compared to many of the lifestyle options available to late teens it's usually for the better, a growing experience. A university is perhaps the best place to nurture and grow with it, but that's besides the point. Of course mentions of this and that says little about a person's intellectual capacity, but it shows interests going beyond run-of-the-mill teen consumerism, and can as such reflect on personality traits that are attractive for some. I think she makes good porn, seems to have an interesting personality and she's pretty for sure, but I have yet to see anything that really blows my mind. Basketball eh? That ain't big where I'm coming form, guess it's because white men can't jump. Edited by - Dither on 1/27/2008 10:18:48 AM
I don't know how much you can really tell about her intelligence and personality from what she's shared with us, or from her taste in film and music, but I'm certainly intrigued enough to want more. That in itself raises her up above some of the other starlets who I might find more physically attractive. I'm definitely looking forward to her website finally opening for business. It'll be interesting to see how much of her personality (or the image she wants to project) comes through in its content.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Jan 27 2008 : 9:15AM
Skronker, where's Sandra Romain? I find Sasha to be beautiful and she has a wonderful bubble butt, which I think it getting bigger, a good thing in my book! But for my tastes she is too skinny (for me, for most she is no doubt fine) and I don't find her convincing as a performer because she goes so over-the-top. This is a common problem in modern porn but that doesn't excuse it, does it? To compare, in the recent Bitchcraft 2 scene she did with Sandra I find Sasha just too theatrical, whereas Sandra is more method, if you know what I mean. Watching Sandra at her best is like watching Brando in Streetcar Named Desire: the rest of the actors are working in a fine theatrical style and then Brando comes out and just burns right through the screen.