I seen this and just wonder how much truth there is to it. The last part 50% and not testing is this true
Male-to-male bareback anal sex is the primary way of transmitting HIV in the Western world. For whatever reason, it is riskier than male-to-female bareback anal sex. It is true that gay porn does not test for HIV (because it does not want to stigmatize the 50% or so performers who are HIV-positive). Most gay porn companies insist on condom use.
Given an HIV-infected partner doing the penetration, male-to-male anal sex is no riskier than male-to-female anal sex.
I don't know anything about the gay porn business other than that I've heard that the gay community insisted that they use condoms in their movies. However, when XRentDVD expanded their search parameters I saw that 'Bareback' was a category, so I assume that not every studio follows that practice anymore.
Obviously, there are situations where it is safe not to use a condom, but whether the context conveys the message about safe sex that the gay community wants porn to deliver is unknown to me.
At any rate, since it seems to me that this is a question for the gay community, I'm moving it.
Edited by - hardware on 7/20/2006 6:07:17 PM
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DanJustice Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 20 2006 : 6:17PM
It seems to me that alot of male performers flip flop back and forth and if 50% of gay performers are HIV pos. then are they not putting the straight performers at risk? Also cant some be a carrier of HIV and not test positive? Then in turn infect others
Most gay studios require condoms for anal sex. They don't require test for HIV, since the whole idea behind safer sex is that it shouldn't matter if your partner is HIV+.
There are a growing number of bareback studios, but it's pretty much assumed that anyone starring in them is HIV+. But I think there is 1 bareback studio that does test for HIV and supposively doesn't mix HIV+ and HIV- performers (It's one of the twinkie boy bareback studios... maybe Cobra or Miami studios, I think?)
Oh yeah, to answer your original question... I've heard that 50% of gay male porn stars are HIV+ many times as well. I'm guessing there's some truth to that.
Edited by - joeblow69 on 7/21/2006 6:31:58 PM
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DanJustice Deactivated User
29 Posts 7/06
Posted - Jul 21 2006 : 6:47PM
So what your telling me is that as long as a HIV- perfoirmer using a condom with a HIV+ performer there is absolutely no chance they can contract HIV?
No, i'm not saying that at all. I'm saying the changes of then contracting HIV is pretty low. Plus, gay performers realize that there's a good chance their partner may be HIV+, and they seem to be ok with the odds. Besides, gay men have safe sex without knowing the status of their partner all the time. So the safe sex they have on screen is really no different from the safe sex they have off screen.
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DanJustice Deactivated User
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Posted - Jul 21 2006 : 7:28PM
So a a guy working in straight porn gets tested on say the 1st of the month he tests neg. On the 15th he does a gay s condom scene with a HIV+ performer. Now can he do a scene on the 17th in the straight porn with the test he took on first or does he have to retest before doing a scene?
I honestly couldn't tell you. But please, who are all these guys who are going back and forth between gay and straight porn?
But I'll ask you something similar... A straight porn star gets tested on the first of the month. He has a shoot on the 15th, but before then, he has sex with 5/6 other women (off the set) some with condoms, some without. No one knows who he had sex with, and what the status of those girls are. What's from stopping him from infecting his costar on the 15th?
Edited by - joeblow69 on 7/21/2006 7:56:46 PM
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DanJustice Deactivated User
29 Posts 7/06
Posted - Jul 21 2006 : 8:01PM
It doesnt have to be guys how bout these girls doing scenes with trannies do these get tested? And you knoww as well as I do guys flip flop back forth all the time
I actually DON'T know that guys do this all the time. I don't watch straight porn, but I'm a member of a number of gay forums, and I haven't heard of any guys doing this lately. The last one I heard of was Frank Towers/Mark Slade, and I was under the impression he wasn't welcomed back to the straight side.
There will always be someone, doing something with someone they shouldn't be. That could be with a HIV+ gay performer on a movie set, or some random one night stand that no one would ever know about.
if you're worried about these people infecting the straight porn community, you should be! There's no way of knowing what people do in their private lives. To trust someone else you've never met about a 3-4 week old HIV test seems insane to me. I would think the straight porn community would start using the 20 minute oral HIV tests (in addition to the blood tests). Barring that, if I were performing, I'd always insist on condoms.
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DanJustice Deactivated User
29 Posts 7/06
Posted - Jul 21 2006 : 8:28PM
One more question can you tell me when Christian stoped fully doing gay films and I include trannys as gay? I heard hes shot two scenes this year
Oh yeah, I forgot about Christian! You should ask him yourself, he posts here, I think. and btw, I don't include trannies as gay porn. The audience for trannie porn is straight men, not gay.
Btw, since it's clear that he real topic at hand is "What do we do about all the scarey gay guys infiltrating our straight porn" I think The Porn Pool is a more appropriate forum.
At this point, DanJustice, you've exhausted the facts available.
Whether it's straight porn or gay porn, you're going by the probabilities and by your trust in your fellow performer to behave responsibly off set. That's not something that sexual orientation can help you determine.
The only guarantee you get in this life is that you won't get out alive. All other beliefs are taken on faith.
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Posted - Jul 22 2006 : 2:44AM
Hillary Scott told Gene Ross that her gay male HIV positive personal assistant gave Talon a blowjob. It was on AdultFYI a few weeks ago.
I emailed the owner of MenAtPlay.com and he confirmed that Christian shot the two scenes currently featured on the site this year.
Don't start that again. The last time this came up Hillary posted here that her assistant claimed that he'd given Talon a BJ sometime in the past. He did not claim he had HIV at the time.
Since Hilary is supposedly the source of this rumor maybe you should be paying attention to her version, not AdultFYI's.
