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rearadmiral All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 10 2023 : 7:55AM
I think I made a big mistake based on lack of information and cascading failures - all of which I take responsibility for, but I'm wondering if there is a solution.

. In November 2021 I signed up for a membership pat Hookup Hotshot for 30 days. I used my usual porn-purchase email address and porn credit card.

. Approximately three weeks into my monthly membership at Hookup Hotshot they offered a 50% discount on annual memberships. I tried to join but since an active membership was associated with my email address, I couldn't.

. I created a "throwaway" Gmail account for the sole purpose of signing up for an annual Hookup Hotshot membership. I used my usual porn credit card.

. I keep a Word document to track all my memberships, but I think the overlapping monthly and annual memberships caused me to track the wrong join date. (Though I'm also suspicious that by using the same credit card that created a confusion within the billing software.)

. My plan was to cancel my annual membership a week prior to it renewing and wait for another 50% sale.

. Because of the date screw up (and I'm not entirely certain this is my fault) the annual renewal at full price came through in November.

. The annual renewal was not from a biller I recognized. While it billed through Epoch, with which I am very familiar, this was different in that it was specifically out of Guernsey. This was suspicious. I had never seen this biller before that I could recall. Also, the amount was significantly more than I would usually spend for a porn membership.

. Keep in mind that since I used a "throwaway" Gmail account that even if the biller sent an email, I would not have seen it.

. Because I didn't recognize the charge (and coincidentally I had been buying multiple memberships at that time so there were several legitimate membership charges on my card) it appeared to me that my card had been hacked. I challenged the charge, and it was reversed. My card was cancelled and a new one issued.

. For obvious reasons, my credit card is likely blocked from purchases from this biller. I tried joining Hookup Hotshot recently and couldn't do so.

. I tried using PayPal by putting sufficient funds on my account so it wasn't linked to my bank, but that still doesn't work.

. I bought a prepaid credit card with sufficient funds to cover an annual membership but that doesn't work either.

. I think the obvious reason is that because there was a chargeback from my IP address, that my IP address is now blocked from future purchases.

Any idea how I can resolve this issue? I'm hoping that it's only Epoch Guernsey because if it is the Epoch US as well then I am truly screwed because many sites I subscribe to our billed through them.

Would a VPN help this situation? My technical abilities are limited so if a VPN is the solution, are there easy ones to set up and use? Are VPN services expensive?

I can join Hookup Hotshot using a different IP address. If I did this, do you think I could access that membership through the blocked IP address? What I mean is, is my IP address blocked from joining or would it be blocked from any access at all?

Would it just be a waste of my time to contact Epoch Guernsey and see if they have a solution?

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

Drew Black
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Posted - Jan 10 2023 : 9:54AM
Go to YouTube and watch the channel from Dennis Davidov or Artur Rehi. They are both vloggers that cover the war in Ukraine and are sponsored by VPN service providers. There are discount codes in some of their videos that are good for AtlasVPN and one of the other ones. I think it ends up costing like $4.95/mo with their codes.


Edited by - Drew Black on 1/10/2023 9:54:42 AM

rearadmiral All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 10 2023 : 10:50AM
^ Thanks. I'll give that a shot. I'm over a month now without my usual HUHS fix and I'm starting to go into withdrawal.
HumptyRumpty
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Posted - Jan 10 2023 : 5:15PM
Norton 360 comes with a VPN that you can enable. I've never turned it on. Nor have I heard anything good or bad about it. But if you've already got Norton, it's worth trying out.
snufish
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Posted - Jan 11 2023 : 3:43AM
Contact HUHS and ask for segpay payment link, don't mention previous chargeback. What was the error message when sign up to EPOCH failed? you should contact them also. If a weird charge ends up on your card you have all right to file CB. "EPOCH.COM* GUNNSTUDIO" should've appeared not anything else.

Be well

 
rearadmiral All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 11 2023 : 8:56AM
^ I don't recall the exact wording, but something "declined.' Another layer of this onion is that since I'm using a prepaid card, for all I know that's the problem. My experience with prepaid cards is generally negative. No, it's entirely negative. The card could be the weak link. But I do think that it's more likely that my IP address is flagged. As much as a VPN might/would solve this, I can't stress enough that I am not technically adept. Unless it is plug and play, it is likely beyond my technical skills. Also, I'm nervous about how using a VPN will affect everything else. Bookmarks, download manager, email? I have no experience with it. My worry is that by using a VPN I need to relearn how to do everything or reset everything. If a VPN is plug-and-play and runs seamlessly in the background then I'll subscribe to one. But I just don't know. Also, if I get in over my head, can I easily remove the VPN and have everything go back to "normal"?

Another problem is that the charge did come from "EPOCH.COM* GUNNSTUDIO" but I didn't recognize it. Of all my Epoch charges, this was the first that included the Gunnstudio bit. A search showed it was from Guernsey and Guernsey is pretty much the wild west for financial transactions. I didn't recognize the charge and because I was worried that the next 'fraudulent' charge could be a lot more than $142 I had the card cancelled immediately.

I guess it can't hurt to contact Epoch. Besides, if I'm blacklisted at Epoch US then I'm really fucked as I subscribe to a lot of sites through them.

It's likely that my only solution here is to try a VPN. I accept that this mess is my fault, but this is, quite literally, the first time I've made this mistake in over 20 years of buying site memberships.

snufish
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Posted - Jan 11 2023 : 7:16PM
VPN are generally used by companies so their employees can log in securely, patrol cops use VPNs when using their computers to run your info during traffic stop. Consumer use of VPN mostly used to get around geo blocking, some paysites forbid VPN in their terms of service. That doesn't matter, what matters is you need a segpay link. On the back end of payment processor the merchant can choose to accept or deny prepaid card but you said you have new card so it shouldn't be blocked. You can try clearing the browser cache or using another browser or device to sign up (with new email) but an easier way is to use another biller, even if EPOCH did deny you they should've kicked you to segpay automatically unless HUHS didn't configure their cascade correctly.

Be well

Edited by - snufish on 1/11/2023 7:17:46 PM

rearadmiral All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 12 2023 : 9:12AM
^ Good advice. Thanks. I'll try that. I don't think HUHS is overly responsive but I'll try asking for the Segpay link. I agree that it's odd that I wouldn't have been kicked there automatically.

If I do have to go the VPN route, are they mostly plug-and-play. Drew suggested Atlas and I'd likely go with that. They tout the advantages of their VPN but don't give any information on installation or use.

HumptyRumpty
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Posted - Jan 12 2023 : 11:00AM
rearadmiral All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 12 2023 : 1:43PM
^ Thanks. I'll check that out.
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