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YogaGrrl
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Posted - Jul 8 2002 : 8:18PM
I just watched Boot Black (1994), which is a screener from VCA and my first-ever gay DVD. (And I apologize to JoeBlow69 for not viewing Farm Boys yet. I've been looking at the calendar and at my current stack of six screeners, and I've decided to try to review them all before vacationing in mid-August.) My first impression is very favorable; the sound quality isn't perfect, but the lighting is quite striking, the men are very attractive, and the chemistry seems hot. There are some dead spots in the commentary, but when Chi Chi LaRue does talk, his remarks are interesting and relevant.

I'm leaning toward a rating in the 4-4.5 star range. But I have no real baseline for comparison, which makes me a little nervous. Has anyone else seen this DVD (or even the VHS version), and would you mind sharing your impressions? Am I right to think this is a really good movie, or is it just the novelty of it that's turning me on?

Thanks for your help!

BIGmike
B-I-G-m-i-k-e

2335 Posts
3/01
Posted - Jul 8 2002 : 8:25PM
I have reviewed one gay title, currently working on number two.

I am wrestling with the idea of giving the one that I am currently reviewing a 5. Which I probably will.

Just go with what you feel it deserves...

I've reviewed some titles that when I go back and look at them, I wonder if I over rated it.


---BIGmike, over and out!---

blklthrjkt
Passionfruit Video

Dallas
105 Posts
7/02
Posted - Jul 8 2002 : 10:28PM
Have a copy of this video on VHS, and YogaGrrl, you are right. It is pretty hot! A few of the scenes are a little lame, especially the "orgy" at the end. For some reason these things never come across as very hot, but the encounters between men in the backroom/alley or wherever that dark place is are fine indeed. Especially like the two guys spitting beer on each other. Could have been soda-pop as far as I am concerned, but the action was steaming.

Would like to see the DVD version.

GaySatyr
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Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat!
1684 Posts
10/00
Posted - Jul 8 2002 : 10:41PM
YogaGrrl,

I am generally not a fan of Chi Chi LaRue's work; I find many of her efforts to be lackluster, formulaic, repetitive and exploitive of her intended audience (although not on the low scale of Sunshine DVD reissues). In my opinion, on the general scale of quality of gay videos, LaRue's best and worst range in the 4 (with a very rare 4.5) down to 2 (with an occasional 1 or 1.5) star rating. But that is my opinion. You need to make up your own mind based on your own impressions.

However, Boot Black is considered to be one of LaRue's better efforts. It was among her first forays into the darker side of gay fetish sex and it is certainly an intriguing effort. I liked the video enough to buy it when I saw it some years ago; however, I haven't watched it in ages now.

In addition to the Farm Boys title (with its marginal bisexual influence) from High Octane (which I would rate a 3.5), I suggest that you chase down a few of the following:

  • Heat - Bruce Cam / Titan Media (5+) - borders on fetish

  • Hot Type - Herve Handsome / High Octane (4.5+ & his best to date)

  • Hotel Italia - Lucas Kazan / Lukas Kazan Productions (4.5+)

  • Inch by Inch - Matt Sterling / Huge Video (5+)

  • The Isle of Men - Kristen Bjorn / Sarava (5+)

  • Italian Style - Lucas Kazan / Lukas Kazan Productions (4.5)

  • Lukas' Stories & More Lukas' Stories - George Duroy / Bel Ami (5 each)

  • ManWatcher - Kristen Bjorn / Sarava (5+)

  • The Road Home - Steven Scarborough / Hot House Entertainment (5)

  • Thick as Thieves - Kristen Bjorn / Sarava (5+)
The numbers in parentheses are my rating of the titles. I think these represent some of the finest mainstream - meaning non-fetish - gay videos ever produced.

Titan Media, with its Fallen Angel series, holds the title for the best in gay fetish sex. If you have never seen any of the series, you owe it to yourself to make the effort. Although I generally do not like them, I concede that they are all exceptional works of pornographic art and worthy of 5-star ratings.

~ GaySatyr

Edited by - GaySatyr on Jul 8 2002

joeblow69
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946 Posts
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Posted - Jul 8 2002 : 10:51PM
Hi YogaGrrl!

Giving flicks a final rating is always tough for me, and I've even seen a ton of them to compare against. Here's what I've come up with:

2.5 stars is what I'd call an average porn (obviously) IMHO, a high majority of porn falls in this category. It isn't hard for a flick to get a 2.5 from me... all you really need are decent looking guys who all get the job done. Anything lower than 2.5, and we are just talking about varying levels of disgust. (big puss filled pimples on the ass, missing cumshots, limp dicks, trolls, major razorburn, etc...)

3-3.5 are what I would consider good rentals that have their moments, but generally aren't worth keeping in your collection.

4-4.5 need to have very good looking guys, and a significant number of scenes that contain real chemistry. Worth buying to see these scenes over and over.

5 is a classic that would appeal to darn near everyone (like Isle of Men), or if they are a specialty release, they set the standard for all other flicks in that genre (like Fallen Angel 4). These come around very rarely.

Hope that helps!

 
YogaGrrl
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Posted - Jul 9 2002 : 12:06AM
Thank you so much for all the helpful ideas, opinions and recommendations. Based on what I'm reading so far, a rating of 4 stars would certainly not be out of line. If I were to compare Boot Black to the fetish-y hetero material that I normally prefer, it would fall very solidly in the "very good" category. My only concern is that it's best to rate movies against other titles within the same genre, and I don't have the necessary experience to do that with gay DVDs (yet ). Anyhow, the chemistry in several scenes is excellent (from what I can see), and two of these guys actually started dating after meeting on set.

Welcome to the forums, blklthrjkt. I did find the beer spitting scene to be very hot. That's one I definitely shouldn't have liked (my father was alcohol dependent); the fact that I liked it anyway is possibly the best compliment I can give to the performers. I think the main problem with the orgy is that a single cameraman was attempting to capture all the action and it was a little difficult to keep up. Nonetheless, it was a better orgy than I've seen in many hetero movies.

GaySatyr, I will definitely consider checking out some of those titles (especially the Fallen Angel series), and I have given some serious thought to buying Thick as Thieves in the past. Right now, I'm on a tight budget, so I've mostly just been accepting screeners and not making many purchases. I suppose I could rent, but I like to keep copies of all my reviewed DVDs on hand for reference. I will definitely bookmark your list, though, and keep an eye out for sales. I apologize for my ignorance, but the director's voice sounds masculine in the commentary. Is Chi Chi male-to-female transgendered, and does s/he prefer to go by the feminine pronoun? If you or someone could please clarify, I'll be sure to get it right in the review.

If anyone has anything else to add to this thread, please feel free to do so. It'll probably be a couple of weeks before I can submit a review of Boot Black. Although I ultimately make my own decisions on the ratings, I always appreciate hearing what other people think, since it allows me to evaluate the movie in the fairest possible light. (And I know exactly what you mean about overrating DVDs, BigMike. I have reviewed a couple of titles that I would now lower by a half-star, and at least one that I would raise by a half-star. I had seen only about ten adult movies when I started reviewing, and it's all a learning experience.)

GaySatyr
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Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat!
1684 Posts
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Posted - Jul 9 2002 : 12:47AM
Chi Chi LaRue is a rather obese drag queen with a catty personality and a barbed tongue. S/he has made literally hundreds of gay-themed (and a few bisexual) videos under a variety of noms-de-plume in addition to her drag stage name, including Taylor Hudson and Lawrence David. There are supposedly two or three more names s/he has used but I can't find the references at the moment. In addition, there are more than a hundred or so titles where the director is not credited that are attributed to her. S/he has worked for just about every major (& most minor) left-coast gay video production company except for Titan Media. So lets say that she is responsible for some 450 to 500 gay and bisexual videos (and maybe more), not including compilations. S/he usually refers to herself as a female. S/he also sometimes casts herself in her videos in non-sexual roles.

S/he was a drag performer in Minneapolis before she got into the gay porn industry. S/he still does drag performances. I'd characterize her style as comedic venom.

As an aside, I'm a romantic with just a trace of a kinky side. In spite of the fact that I am not a macho personality, I tend to be an in-control top who can be versatile if the situation is right (even then, I tend to run the show). I like the idea of bondage, leather and mild spanking but I do not like the gay leather subculture at all. Much of the more intense fetish sex incorporated in the Fallen Angel series is not to my taste. I am not a big fan of tattoos and I do not like piercings, especially genital ones, at all. Water sports, enemas and fisting as sexual play are total turn-offs for me.

Thick as Thieves is an unusually well-scripted, intense love story with a few kinky twists and is my all-time favorite porn video. However, all the titles on my list qualify as exceptionally good gay porn.

Hope this helps....

~ GaySatyr

Edited by - GaySatyr on Jul 9 2002

YogaGrrl
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Posted - Jul 9 2002 : 4:37PM
Once again, many thanks for all that excellent information, GaySatyr. I appreciate the warning on the Fallen Angel series. I haven't yet seen any water sports, enemas or fisting. The idea of viewing that type of material doesn't particularly alarm me, but I don't know that it would turn me on, either.

Actually, it sounds like our tastes are remarkably similar. I've added Thick as Thieves to my !Alerts account so that I can hopefully catch it at a better price in the foreseeable future.

joeblow69
Member

946 Posts
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Posted - Jul 9 2002 : 5:35PM
It's Chi Chi!!

GaySatyr, do you know if she directs her films while in drag?

GaySatyr
Senior Member

Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat!
1684 Posts
10/00
Posted - Jul 9 2002 : 5:45PM
Generally, no, s/he doesn't. Isn't that a scary thought? Makes her more successful video titles even more a wonder!!! ... and a good explaination for her flops.

~ GaySatyr

Edited by - GaySatyr on Jul 9 2002

dumblonde
Senior Member

2352 Posts
7/00
Posted - Jul 10 2002 : 5:18PM
THAT'S Chi Chi? Wow. She also directed one of my favorite movies, Idol Country, for VCA. I haven't seen that many, so I'm sure it's not in the league of the ones GaySatyr mentioned, but you can buy it for around $20. or less, and I think JoeBlow69 reviewed it. I was going to, but I felt kinda weird about it - not sure how you guys felt about straights (and straight females, no less) reviewing gay porn.
Anyway, you might like it, especially for the money.
Go get 'em Yoga Grrl!

Here's some pics of Idol Country

GaySatyr
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Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat!
1684 Posts
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Posted - Jul 10 2002 : 6:08PM
DB, please, if you want to review gay titles, do so -- I'd be honored that you cared to make the effort.

And, by the way, I like Idol Country also. It is probably Ryan Idol's best performance. He seems almost human there; whereas, in my opinion, dispite his good looks, his wooden, gay-for-pay attitude spoils his performance in many of his videos. However, Idol does a great job playing a gay priest who jacks off in the confessional in The Road Home (from my list, above).

~ GaySatyr

joeblow69
Member

946 Posts
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Posted - Jul 13 2002 : 12:50PM
YogaGrrl, Kristen Bjorn movies rarely ever go on sale. Even his first 2 DVDs (released like 2 years ago) are still $36 at the cheapest. That being said, it is in stock at XRentDVD (tho 10 bucks seems like a lot for a rental to me). It's a shame they charge so much for these flicks... I would think if they lowered their price to a more reasonable level, they would sell a hell of lot more, and possibly take over the entire Gay DVD industry!
GaySatyr
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Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat!
1684 Posts
10/00
Posted - Jul 13 2002 : 1:48PM
I generally wait for really good coupons in order to buy expensive non-sale items like Kristen Bjorn DVDs. For example, Adult DVD Empire has a $20-off coupon (just over 15%) with the purchase of $120 deal going currently which when coupled with the 15% ADT kickback, makes for a pretty reasonable price reduction. Unfortunately, it is easy to spend that much on gay titles.

The sad thing for ADE is that I would spend more with them if they gave percentage-off coupons instead of dollar amounts. It is difficult to limit my spending to within a dollar or two over their coupon cut-off amount so as to maximize my discount - plus, their coupons tend to be one-time-use so I can't place a second order, either. If they would offer a straight 20%-off coupon for orders above $200, I'd place an order with them for $200~250 worth just about every six weeks.

~ GaySatyr

YogaGrrl
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Posted - Jul 13 2002 : 2:29PM
I greatly appreciate that info, joeblow69. It might have taken me a while to figure that out on my own.

GaySatyr, I know exactly what you're saying. I like to think I'm good at math, and I definitely enjoy maximizing my discounts in every way possible. Adult DVD Empire is not getting an order from me this month mostly because no combination of items on my wish list comes within a few dollars of the minimum order amount for their coupons. And before they went to the one-time use codes, I was inclined to place larger orders with them, since I could partition my orders in such a way to optimize the percentage discount.

I suspect that if I don't order anything from the Empire for a few months, they may try to entice me back by e-mailing another one of their deals to take $15 off a $100 order. Hopefully I can use that in combination with other coupon(s)/rebate(s) to get a heck of a great deal. I can be a very patient and determined person. There's no question in my mind that I will get Thick as Thieves for a reasonable price; it just may take awhile.

I have finished the review I was already working on, so now I'm ready to tackle the second screening and notetaking for Boot Black. The review should be ready for posting in about a week.

Edited by - YogaGrrl on Jul 13 2002

 
YogaGrrl
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Posted - Jul 22 2002 : 11:46AM
Just a heads-up that my review of Boot Black has now been posted. A big thank you again to everyone for your input! If you have any constructive criticism that you'd like to pass along, you are more than welcome to contact me at YogaGrrl@my.adultdvdtalk.com.

Hopefully I will be able to continue reviewing gay titles every once in a while, since my first experience was a good one.

GaySatyr
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Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat!
1684 Posts
10/00
Posted - Jul 22 2002 : 3:30PM
Thanks for the great review, YogaGrrl - very balanced and fair. Please, more!!!

~ GaySatyr

joeblow69
Member

946 Posts
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Posted - Jul 22 2002 : 7:21PM
OOoooooooh! I didn't realize that Boot Black had Zak Spears in it! Yummy!

Great review YogaGrrl!

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