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Posted - Jan 31 2012 : 3:24AM
The biggest part of my cable bill is the ~$30 I pay each month for the HD-DVR. Now, this is an awesome device, but this seems like a pretty damn excessive charge. So, I'm wondering, what other sorts of alternatives are out there? Do I absolutely have to pay Comcast or can I buy a device on my own? I really have no idea.
Rod
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Posted - Jan 31 2012 : 7:25AM
^ good question.....I've been thinking the same thing.
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Posted - Jan 31 2012 : 7:44AM
I've never done it, but I just googled "Build your own DVR." It seems pretty straightforward, basically you need an old computer, install a video capture card, and some DVR software. If you decide to install Linux, then MythTV is a free option on the software.
I would definitely do some research first.
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Posted - Jan 31 2012 : 9:20PM
You can buy a Tivo. But that comes with $20 per month fee. After factoring in the $300 purchase price, it would take you 30 months to break even.
If DirecTV is an option, their price is more reasonable. They charge $5 per month per receiver regardless of the type of receiver that you have and $7 per month for DVR service. The DVR service fee is $7 regardless of whether you have 1 DVR or 4 DVR's. It's an account level charge, not a receiver level charge. you can get 1 HD DVR for free, when you sign up along with 3 HD receivers. Additional HD DVR's cost $199. But, they will usually make deals with new customers.
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Posted - Jan 31 2012 : 10:32PM
The whole cable pricing for TV bothers me.
I think it should be like HSInternet. I pay for residential service regardless of how many computers I connect through my router. I own the modem and the router and the wires. They charge me to connect. I'm fine if they want to charge me a volume/usage based component like other utilities. I'm willing to pay for the amount I use.
I should pay for cable the same way. I'd like to own the cable box and wires and just connect to their service. I should be able to connect DVR or TV or whatever.
I realize they don't see it that way, but that's the service I want to buy and if someone comes along with better hardware/software/UI I want to be able to change. The current UI sucks!!! Hopefully someone will come along with a new model.
 
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Posted - Feb 1 2012 : 1:10AM
There seems to be a real racket going on here. I feel like I'm being taken advantage of by the cable companies, even though I have a pretty good income (for the moment) and can afford it.
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Posted - Feb 1 2012 : 1:28AM
I feel like I need to read up on how the cable business works. HBO apparently offers a service called HBO GO that allows you to stream episodes of their series. The service is offered free with your subscription, IF AND ONLY IF your cable provider is signed up as part of the program. In my case, Comcast isn't part of the program, so I can't get it at all. But what really gets me is that I can't buy it separately. Whaaa? Really? HBO only wants my business if I'm going through a cable provider? Come on guys! This is the age of Hulu and Netflix and you aren't putting a streaming option out there for the non-cable customer? Something smells.
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Posted - Feb 1 2012 : 6:47AM
^ I'm guessing HBO is locked into a contract with the cable provider. I can't imagine they DON'T want the business of all the people who don't have cable.
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Posted - Feb 2 2012 : 3:04AM
^ I'm sure you're right. But what I'm saying is that it smells. There's something anti-competitive going on.
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Posted - Feb 2 2012 : 5:10AM
Corporate Capitalism? Anti-competitive? Not possible.
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Posted - Feb 2 2012 : 1:30PM
You can provide your own but Comcast will charge you for a cable card, which is propitiatory (digital decryption function).
What you pay, for what you get depends on where you live. Almost to the point of your house number.
Comcast has different rates according to location and services. A HD-DVDR from Comcast in my area is $18/month (last I checked).
AT & T offers Uverse (usually cheaper than Comcast) in places where that have completed installation. It operates over your telephone line so depending on the quality of the line you may get good service or not so good. I know a person who works for AT & T and he switched to Comcast, yet his next door neighbor got excellent UVerse reception.
Over the air (like Direct TV) depends on your antenna sighting.
I considered switching out my three TIVOs for the newer HD versions but found out that each TIVO would need a cable card. The monthly cable card charge is equal to the charge for a DVDR from Comcast, so that would not save me any money.
If you're looking for a TIVO, check out http://www.weaknees.com. They do a good job of competing with TIVO and are recommended by TIVO if you need a repair on one of your TIVOs.
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Posted - Feb 21 2012 : 1:06AM
This seems topical: This.
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Posted - Feb 23 2012 : 11:00PM
Dish Network has free HD (DirecTV is $10 a month) and charges $6 a month for a HD DVR. I've had them both and the best deals are if you switch every few years, or at least threaten to switch. I like that Dish has TCM in HD.
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Posted - Feb 23 2012 : 11:33PM
HD is free for new DirecTV subscribers and if an existing subscriber calls and asks for it, they will give them HD for free too.
DirecTV charges the same monthy fee for a DVR as they do for a regular receiver. According to a co-worker, who has Dish, Dish charges him double for his DVR because it has two tuners in it and they charge per tuner, not per receiver. DirecTV charges per receiver. I have 3 HD DVR's, each with 2 tuners and am charged $12 per month (the first receiver is included in the monthly programming fee).
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Posted - Feb 24 2012 : 8:33AM
That seems like WAY too much recorded TV....???
 
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Posted - Feb 24 2012 : 4:30PM
That would be accurate.
Ultimately you're paying for convenience. The computer DVR solution is viable but requires you to research it, put it together and run it yourself, which most people won't do. You pay for the convenience of a box that's already configured, a remote, etc.
It's a bit like Apple products. You pay a premium for them, but you get a prepacked solution that's already been tested and vetted to work.
Edited by - jayo on 2/24/2012 4:33:19 PM
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Posted - Feb 24 2012 : 11:32PM
Before DirecTV introduced Multi-Room Viewing for their HD DVR's, I wanted to be able to watch any recorded program on any of the TV's in the house (in the den, in my bedroom and in front of the treadmill). So, I got 3 HD DVR's (only one of which I paid for) and set them all to record the same programs.
Once DirecTV added Multi-room viewing, now I essentially have one very large DVR with 6 tuners. Most of the time, there is no reason to have that many tuners. However, there have been times (especially on Sunday during football season) when all 6 tuners are recording. Since I need a receiver for every TV anyway, and DirecTV doesn't charge any more for a DVR than they do for a regular receiver, there is no reason to get rid of any of the DVR's that I already have.
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Posted - Feb 26 2012 : 10:45AM
Like everything else... new customers get better deals. With DirecTV I used to call/complain then we would get a better deal. We switched to Dish because we got a way better deal (bundle with DSL internet.) Then of course, DirecTV offered us a better deal - have not switched back but will if rates go up. DirecTV's DVR was much better functionally, but when it comes to recurring billing price is my biggest factor.
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