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Stay_Hard
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Posted - Oct 17 2006 : 11:07AM
Are pornstars truly addicted to sex? I mean they have to be. Expecially the dudes who are like 40yrs old still in the business. Its like these pornstars can't retire. If they do quit the business, they always come back. WHY?

I swear, some of these performers just don't seem normal.

I watched "Ass Everywhere" by JSP last night and i was amazed at how Justin took on all of those females like it was nothing. All his scenes were with 2 women, no help at all. I was like, how is this dude still breathing after all of that. I would be in the emergency room somewhere!! I think i heard him say after one of the scenes that he don't have a heart...i believe it, DAMN! No homo but dude is like the energizer bunny or something.

These performers gotta be sex fiends. Like crackheads fiening for crack or something.

Midtown
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Posted - Oct 17 2006 : 11:35AM
Aside from being sex addicts, by all accounts their personal lives are disasters. The societal rate of divorce is 50%, while the rate in the porn industry is probably closer to 90%.
picman
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Posted - Oct 17 2006 : 11:46AM
You know what Midtown, you're game is getting old. But you're right. You're never going to get what you want and need from porn and you'd be best served by finding a girlfriend and settling into the vanilla sex that you crave so much. You're interest and dollars are just contributing to the demise of other people's lives and relationships. Get a clue. Find a new hobby. You'll be much happier. Stop trying to lay your insecurities and guilt trips on everybody else.
Stay_Hard
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Posted - Oct 17 2006 : 12:10PM
I've heard alot of female pornstars saying that they have no personal life at all. Thats totally understandable considering what they do for a living. As a man with alot pride, i don't think i could handle seeing my woman fucking other men on a daily basics. That shit would tear me up, expecially if she seems to be enjoying it more with them.

I would also feel like i'm not giving them enough because they seem like they need alot to be satisfied. Its kinda imtimadating in a way.

I saw Tristan Taormino's flick "Chemistry" the other day and Marie Luv was talking about how hard it was for her to find somebody. I was like, do you really think a man could handle what you do for a living and not feel a little fucked up about it. Marie is an hellava performer, i would feel like i had to do some kind of magic tricks in the bedroom in order to get her off.

How do you please someone that has been with everybody and has done almost everything? They really seem like sex addicts.

Edited by - Stay_Hard on 10/17/2006 12:11:13 PM

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Posted - Oct 17 2006 : 12:16PM
Midtown, picman is right. Your schtick is old. Your time here is about to come to an end if you have nothing else to contribute.
 
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Posted - Oct 17 2006 : 2:03PM
Funniest thing I've read in weeks.
Midtown
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Posted - Oct 17 2006 : 2:19PM
Don't get upset at me. Stay head is the one who started the thread and compared porn stars to "crackheads fiening for crack or something."

I just chimed in about the very high divorce rate among porn stars, for which there is a ton of anecdotal evidence.

picman
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Posted - Oct 17 2006 : 2:35PM
Just the fact that pornstars even attempt to carry on relationships is a testament to people's innate need to bond, but are they any less successful than Hollywood marriages? Careers are short and the opportunity to mate successfully is much greater when the performing days are over. Anecdotal evidence is bullshit. You can't possibly know what happens to the vast numbers of performers that drift in and out of the industry and it wouldn't be anybody's business but their own anyway.
As far as performers being sex fiends or addicts, wouldn't porn be the perfect industry for that affliction, if you want to call it that?
Marie Luv
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Posted - Oct 17 2006 : 3:06PM
First I will start off by saying thank you for calling me a hell of a performer. Performer being the key word. When I am on set Marie Luv is who I am supposed to be. I have to make it look like I am enjoying the sex, even if I'm not. I realize that I am a pornstar and that is a lot to handle. Only a real strong man can handle that and truly understand it as only a job. So yes its going to be hard to find a mate because there aren't that many strong men out there.

As far as pleasing someone that has had a lot of sex partners and has done almost everything there shouldn't be a problem if you know how to please a woman in the bedroom PERIOD. What does how many partners a person has had have to do with if someone can please them. Your sex can not be good to a woman that has only been with ten men. Just because I have done a lot of things sexually means that there are many ways to please me. So if I'm a sex addicts, so be it. But Marie Luv is my on screen character and there is a lot more to me than just the sex.

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Posted - Oct 17 2006 : 3:36PM
Marie tells it like it REALLY is in her Podcast, which is coming soon ...

I've learned enough about human nature to know better than to generalize about anyone's motives just because of their occupation. Though if you're going to be a porn star, it probably helps to have a high sex drive, and if you're going to be a porn star in a relationship, it helps to have a very understanding partner. People work that out in different ways and at different levels of emotional maturity. I don't think porn stars are any more or less fucked up than the rest of the 18-35 year-old demographic. They are, however, far more exposed.

Eric381
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Posted - Oct 17 2006 : 8:08PM
Yet, the funniest part is listening to the 'playas' & those who "be mackin' bitches" sound as if they could handle it. When in reality, they too are just looking for a piece of ass (one night stand).

I'm no shrink (although sometimes I could use one), but I'd think that the key to a successful relationship with such a personality ~ if that's possible ~ would be to draw the relationship away from the sex. Sure, it's essential to any relationship, IMO, but seeing as they've done it for a career, only the true nymphos will want it 24/7 at home as well. You just need to moderate it a little, find something else to occupy one's time during "off duty" hours. Easier said than done, if the person has a fiendishly desire to fuck like a jack rabbit, of course.

Marie, I don't think he meant to sound crass. What I think he means by "done everything" is that a certain consensus might feel that porn performers are desensatized through so much fucking, and his line of thinking is that there isn't much that CAN get you/a pornstar off? That said, sure...skilled in 10 different dirty deeds of the bedroom, but only one of them will get you off 99% of the time, so which is it? That's for you to know, and him to find out (lol), which is where the average guy in such a relationship could easily get intimidated. While I'd like to think I'm able to please any gal in the bedroom (one way or another, lol), much less a pornstar, the odds against civilians are obviously present, IMO.

Like I said, stick to something you both can enjoy outside the sex, I think that is the healthiest thing. Just because you date a girl who fucks/fucked for a living doesn't mean they (all) want it all day, every day. In talking to so many of the girls, it's ironic & funny to hear some of their interests outside the bedroom/off-set. That's probably why I enjoy BTS so often in my selections.

Edited by - Eric381 on 10/17/2006 8:23:36 PM

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Posted - Oct 17 2006 : 11:43PM
Dude, it isn't call a sex drive for nothing. Everybody is addicted to sex. That is, unless they've got serious hormone problems. Males may peak in their twenties, but that doesn't mean their sex drive shuts off at thirty. Old folks still do it in nursing homes, fer cryin' out loud.

As for the reasons why 40 year olds are still doing porn -
1) it pays the bills,
2) it beats working at McD's, and
3) it's a subculture they're comfortable with.

Stay_Hard
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Posted - Oct 18 2006 : 1:44AM
Marie, i hope i didn't offend you with what i said. Don't wanna piss a scorpio off!! lol

Matter fact, i didnt want to offend any of the performers, i just be soo amazed at the amount of sexual energy these people have. Hell, i be worn out with just 1 chick..i couldn't handle 2 or 3 at a time like jslay did in that flick. My ass would be still laid up recovering. I guess thats why i'm not a pornstar!

.......and Marie talking about she wants to team up with Jazmine Cashmere in Black Girks get Nasty too 2, shiiiitttt...my azz would be dead, i swear i wouldn't make it. They would have to have another dude on stand by for me.


Edited by - Stay_Hard on 10/18/2006 1:53:14 AM

Marie Luv
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Posted - Oct 18 2006 : 6:28PM
Marie, i hope i didn't offend you with what i said. Don't wanna piss a scorpio off!! lol

Matter fact, i didnt want to offend any of the performers, i just be soo amazed at the amount of sexual energy these people have. Hell, i be worn out with just 1 chick..i couldn't handle 2 or 3 at a time like jslay did in that flick. My ass would be still laid up recovering. I guess thats why i'm not a pornstar!

.......and Marie talking about she wants to team up with Jazmine Cashmere in Black Girks get Nasty too 2, shiiiitttt...my azz would be dead, i swear i wouldn't make it. They would have to have another dude on stand by for me.


Edited by - Stay_Hard on 10/18/2006 1:53:14 AM

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You are so right, you don't want to piss off a scorpio. Relationships is a touchy subject for me and sometimes I voice my opinions a little hard.
There are no hard feelings and I understand where you are coming from now.
DancesWithPorn
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Posted - Oct 18 2006 : 8:38PM
You should check out the documentary, "The legend of Ron Jeremy". It's an interesting look at his life. No guy has been in more porn than him.

One interesting line from a director was..a guy shows up on set, the girl is laying there as the guy strokes it to try and get it up to start the scene and she tells him.."don't look at me like I'm your girlfriend, just hurry up and fuck me so I can get out of here."

I think that really sums up the attitude of a lot of pornstars. I don't think they are in it for the sex. Obviously they could get more sex, and better sex elsewhere. Sex without 20 people standing around with bright lights and cameras pointed at them, without a director yelling things at them, being told to stop, start, stop, do this...etc.

Really in my opinion that isn't even sex. That is more close to acting. I think just like an actor, they get high off the idea that someone is really into their work. Someone is hanging on their every word, every move, etc. It's that rush of control and power that probably is more of a stimulant than the actual fake sex.

 
croy
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Posted - Oct 18 2006 : 10:53PM
Insecurity is not the same as pride.

Nor has your arguements supports "they have to be". If you are right, you got their by the wrong path.

Endless Loop
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Posted - Oct 18 2006 : 11:49PM
Sex fiends?
Addicts?
The ongoing problem with porn, is that theres rarely any certified deviants out there making it.
RandomPrecision
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Posted - Oct 19 2006 : 6:20AM
Well said!
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This is exactly my feeling. As far as the female performers go, the majority of the time the whole "Sex fiend" personna is just and act. Its part of the game to make them more desirable and bankable with consumers. I doubt any of the women are like that in their private life. Even things they say in interviews about their sex lives are probably false or are exaggerated to make them appear to be nymphos.

A good example for me is Courtney Cummz. She always acts over the top and insaitable, but having seen all of her POV anal scenes, I have caught a "script" she often runs.

In these four movies: Tunnel Vision , Perverted Point of View #10 , Drill My Ass POV Style #3 , and Anal P.O.V. #3 -- Courtney gets it up the ass. Now don't get me wrong -- I LOVE seeing this.

But I noticed that in every movie when the camera focuses on her asshole gaping she says the following: "Is it nice and open for you?"

I mean the exact same thing ... in the exact same way. It just goes to show that she in her "performer" mode when this sex is happening. In truth she is probably not into it all. She consideres it a craft or trade.

But like I said, as long as the faking is not completely obvious -- I rarely care. The visual stimulus alone is enough to get me off.

I'd even go as far as to say most of them don't even care what others think of their work. They are not "Getting off" at all. They are just there for a paycheck. Period.

The simple fact is, I don't like to think about realities like this when I watch. The good performers pull you into the fantasy and make you beleive whether it is true or not. As long as I am getting off -- I rarely care about the actual feelings involved. This is another reason why I don't read interviews with porn stars often. I don't want it confirmed that my favorite hot star is just a good actress. I'd rather live in ignorance and have my fantasy intact.

BlueUnit
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Posted - Oct 19 2006 : 9:59AM
I look at the actors and actresses in porn kinda like sexual athletes. They have a job to do and to do it well, you have to give it up and love it and be committed.

If you are an athlete (sexual or otherwise) doing it just for the paycheck, that is not enough motivation to be a star performer. The shallowness of the commitment will be reflected in the performance.

I look for those performers who have a higher sense of commitment, who love what they do, who have a drive to be the best and give it all up. When you pair them off with other performers who have the same attitude..that is when things get hot!

Eric381
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Posted - Oct 19 2006 : 12:53PM
And what's wrong with that, the average porn-sumer probably doesn't pick apart scenes like that. They ARE plying their craft, and that's all that really matters. It's the job of the supervisor (director) to say otherwise. There are only so many lines you CAN use to sound convincing after a while before it looks over the top anyway. For instance, how many times can I impress my boss with "safety first" on the job?

Amy Ried was guilty of this during her short stint with "Get that pussy". There are some movies I would have to use my toes in order to count how many times she used that particular phrase as a request for her partner to fuck her.

LamontCranston
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Posted - Oct 19 2006 : 1:23PM
Here Here. No one behind the cameras dick is getting hard.
Stay_Hard
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Posted - Oct 19 2006 : 1:47PM
It doesn't matter if these people are faking or not, fact is..they are still fucking. I always though that you have to truly love sex to even be in the industry in the first place. I can see if the chick is a lesbian in real life but just fucks men on camera just for the paycheck. I think Lacy Devalle does this. She is more energetic in her g/g scenes as oppose to her b/g ones. Same with Lexi Cruz. I hate those kind of performers because you know they are just acting for the green.

Alot of the performers say that they don't even have sex that much in their personal lives because they get all they need at work. They are always complaining about how hard is it for them to get laid outside of work, always saying that they haven't had sex in such and such time. I don't know if they be lying or what. Marie said that she always loved sex...thats why she started doing porn. Its hard for me to believe that this is just a paycheck for her. I know that she is performing or whatever but she is still fucking...simple as that. Marie i believe the paycheck is just the icing on the cake for you. You are that good. When i think about Jada Fire...i don't sense that she truly enjoys the sex that much...i can tell she be acting in alot of her scenes. She even said that she perfers females over males. That kinda turned me off and ruined by fantasy because i know that she just does this for the green. Ice La Fox is sexy as hell but, she does the samething in all her scenes...never done anal at all. She turned me off when i saw her attitude in a BTS. She seemed more worried about how she was looking than her performance. All that time, i though she truly enjoyed this shit. I guess i'm too guilable.

I think that sometimes the stars are acting and sometimes they are not. I think it depends on who they are working with. When i watch a Justin Slayer or Belladonna movie...the performers actually look like they are truly enjoying the sex. Doesn't seem to be acting at all. I'm just confused. What about these scenes where 2 male performers(supposly hetrosexual) end up doing homosexual stuff..you know when a chick is sucking them off and she rubs their heads together and they just sit there and don't do nothing...like they're enjoying it. That shit is not performing to me at all, them fools are loving that shit.


....How come lesbians get in the industry and fuck men when they don't even like cock? Couldn't they find a normal 9-5 job? I know the money mit be good and all but i just don't get it. It makes for bad scenes. Also is it true that all of the male performers are either gay or bisexual?

Stay_Hard
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Posted - Oct 19 2006 : 1:51PM
Thats because most of the guys behind the camera are homos. I have nothing against homosexuals but i swear alot of the times it seems like the camera man is more focused on the male more so than the female. You would think you were watching a gay movie if it wasn't for the chick. I don't want to see a mans asshole every 5 mins when i'm watching a flick. Thank god for the fast forward button.

Edited by - Stay_Hard on 10/19/2006 1:54:50 PM

LamontCranston
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Posted - Oct 19 2006 : 2:13PM
I read a comment here recently were an actress compared her commitment to Walter Payton's who was famous for his rigour training routine. While I loved her honesty it not what I want to see in porn. when the actress mentioned above is performing with an equally committed partner I'm afraid what we get is a stilted athletic performance where performance is the key word highlighted over any authentic reaction to each other. Taken to it highest level we have two professionals who are performing separately. It may be superior as an athletic event, but its sex only in the broadest sense the fact that genitals are involved. I'm a voyeur getting off on the sex on the screen, well acted sex is not enough, Everone knows if a person is drunk, everone knows if a person is sexually aroused. All but those new to porn who are happy with the nudity and can't believe that people are actually doing these thing on camera are taken in. Twenty people on the set, and no-body's dick is hard?, no-body's pussy is wet? Porn is getting away form its core, people fucking and it mission to allow the viewer to participate and believe in the sexual episode depicted. It shouldn't requires having to stretch of the imagination.
 
slutty
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Posted - Oct 19 2006 : 2:15PM
Why would a man porn star retire? One of the best jobs out there. Randy West..keep doing your thing.
Midtown
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Posted - Oct 19 2006 : 3:21PM
I still don't think it's the cameramen who are responsible for this. If that were the case, then such cameramen would develop bad reputations and not be used. I think it's the directors who are pushing the focus on the men. Either way, we need more testosterone behind the camera - not just in front of it!
tritone
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Posted - Oct 19 2006 : 3:48PM
...I think the whole "I am a lesbian in real life" thing is mostly fake too. Only a few girls in porno that I could beleive were really lesbians in their personal life. Its just another line to make them seem cooler and sexually adventurous.

You really think a good looking black girl like Lacey Duvalle is a lesbian? Think about it.

On the flip side of that, if a male performer with a nice, cut body claims he is really gay -- I could beleive that.


tritone
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Posted - Oct 19 2006 : 3:54PM
Well you're right -- its not really that bad. And I still get off like crazy watching her scenes. I'm just saying that its not so free-form and in-the-moment as some people think.

But to answer your question, a better thing to do would be to say nothing all!! Just be low key and that could actually work. It does for Taylor Rain. She has a way being sexy without saying a damn word. Just her moans and facial expressions can do the job.

Stay_Hard
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Posted - Oct 19 2006 : 4:53PM
Some chicks can pull off the quiet thing, but others can't. That asian chick Nyoami Marcella(think i spelled it right) is very quiet in her scenes...all she does is moan and thats cool with me. It can get boring though. Her scene in Fortune Cookies was pretty good...expecially the blow job at the end. Monica Sweetheart is another chick i like but doesn't say a word. She just moans and thats it. She's soo sexy that i don't even care. India doesn't talk in her scenes either...she's a hot black chick but she is extremly boring to me. I feel alseep once watching one of her scenes. Didn't even jack off.

I'm really on the fence about this subeject though. When the chick is talking too much..i get annoyed. Expecially if she is not believable. Its geting to the point where i have to watch alot of scenes on mute. Some chicks be saying the same crap in every scene and i hate that with a passion. The black Cherokee is soo boring in her scenes...all she does is repeat "o shit" the whole time. She better be glad she got that phat ass or else she would be useless in porn. I hate when the chick acts the same way in every scene. This is why i never got into Janet Jacme. Yall said that these people are performers so therefore some of them need to start acting like one.

Don't get me started on Lexi Cruz!! Jazmine Cashmere is her best friend, you would think she would have learned something from her by now.

I'm just all over the place with this thread, LOL.

Edited by - Stay_Hard on 10/19/2006 5:04:38 PM

Eric381
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I disagree, there are LOADS of jobs where people ply their craft, and do it very well. So the ability to do so, and do it well, is more important than the love of doing it. I know I work for one main reason (getting paid), "love of the job" comes secondary.

As for doing anal on-screen, of the lack thereof, there are performers out there who DO have s/o's at home, and this is the one thing they save for their partner. The old "gotta save something for my personal life" is very valid, IMO.

This isn't homosexual...what it is, is your opinion of homosexuality, which you're entitled to...however ruffneck/redneck it may be. However, by definition, it's WRONG.
I'd say what you're seeing aren't lipstick lesbians, it's what people call "bisexual" or "bi" ~ ever hear of it? They like pussy in their personal relationships, but just can't forsake cock 100%. So porn could very well be their "day job".

Where in the hell did you ever hear that all male performers are gay or bisexual? Did your best friend tell you this? I'm invoking your earlier self-imposed comment of "gullible" as very factual...ASAP. I'm sure that most of the male performers would like to hear your reasons as to "why they are gay", but then again...probably would take it the same grain of salt that I do. Your sheer uneducation on the matter shows that you know absolutely nothing about camera angles -v- lighting.

Edited by - Eric381 on 10/19/2006 5:20:07 PM
DancesWithPorn
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Posted - Oct 19 2006 : 5:21PM
I think you guys are overanalyzing it when it comes to the dialogue. How can you say what is believable or not? I mean she said it..so believe it. That's my motto. When someone says something in a hollywood movie, you don't question them. You don't say I don't believe it, let's mute this film.

Why don't you believe it?

I hate quiet sex. I would much rather her "fake" it and say she is cumming than her not to say it at all. Cause if she doesn't say it..well she definitely didn't cum. If she doesn't even contract, and say stop..hold on...or allude to it..then it definitely never happened.

So I don't get what your point is. I say do it all the time and let people determine if she really came or not or if she really meant what she said or not.

Better to do it..even if fake, than not to do it at all.

Orgasm > Fake Orgasm > No Orgasm

The reality is, and I hate to burst your bubble, most of it is probably all fake cause it's acting. It's probably in the script. If the girl doesn't orgasm..it's probably not in the script! ha

Learned Hand
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Posted - Oct 19 2006 : 11:45PM
I wouldn't hold that particular repeated line against her. Most people have things that they say again and again. She may be acting in general, but very few people are consistently original.

In a case of a gape, she may very well not understand why someone wants to see that (I have this in common with her). I think if someone does not understand the why the thing they are doing is sexy they are going to be much more likely to say something either cliched or by rote.

In any case, I think often the hunt is for someone who will say the particular things that you want to hear. I want someone to say "fuck me," among other things. I am less likely to hear this as acting because it is what I want to hear.

All this is not to say she was not acting, as I have no idea who she is. I am just saying that the repitition of one line is probably more either a failure of imagination on her part (which absolutely everyone is guilty of) or just her attempt to say something appropriate and or hot.

Biggdiesal
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Posted - Oct 20 2006 : 2:21AM
I don't know about the men but as far as the women go I don't think they are sex fiend or sex addicts. I say 95 percent or more are there just to get paid. To me the difference between a porn star and a hooker is that porn is legal. But for me I understand what main stream porn is and that's a girl putting on a great performance. They may look in the camera and say how much they love sex and how nasty they are but at the end of the day they want to get paid. They may be addicts but it is not sex they are addicted to it is money my friend.



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