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| pil008 Member 138 Posts 12/04 |  Posted - Mar 14 2011 : 3:47PMWhat do you think is the best sex to story ratio for a feature? I would go for 65% story and 35% sex, but then I'd keep the sex scenes quite short, intense, varied and very naughty, and have more of them! Nothing grinds a feature to a halt quicker than having a couple banging away in the missionary position for ten minutes. [Link] |
| Brummie Senior Member 3389 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Mar 14 2011 : 4:24PM [Link] |
| Robert Member My past is a foreign country. Most things are different there, including word usage. 503 Posts 12/06 | Posted - Mar 14 2011 : 5:05PM Sex scenes should be limited to about 9 minutes maximum. Again, more would be less. So, if there are five sex scenes, which I believe is about the norm, then the ratio would be about one to one. If you limited the sex scenes to 7 minutes (better) then the ratio would be 60 to 40. Ideal IMHO. That would require a number of things rarely present in a porn film, particularly those produced after 2000. 1. Tight screen play writing of a straight forward plot. 2. Sex scenes with a limited number of positions, with close-ups of the female face only. 3. First rate directing. 4. Top flight acting. Don't hold your breath waiting for this to happen or spend any time searching for a title that meets this criteria. One of my hobbies is editing Golden Era features, using the guidelines I mentioned. My problem is finding suitable candidates.  [Link] |
| alphadachs Member 475 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Mar 14 2011 : 6:06PM [Link] |
| Myload Senior Member A rose is what you are to me 2069 Posts 6/03 | Posted - Mar 14 2011 : 8:03PM [Link] |
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| Robert Member My past is a foreign country. Most things are different there, including word usage. 503 Posts 12/06 | Posted - Mar 14 2011 : 10:05PM About a year ago, I edited "The New Neighbors" which was 155 minutes. I cut it down to 95 minutes. Most of the cuts were from the sex scenes, there were eight and most had some dialog that fit right into the scene. BTW, this film was unusual in that the lesbian scene was integral to the story line. That is rarely the case and just cutting out the seemingly prerequisite lesbian scene is often the first big cut I make. There were a couple of 'casting' mistakes (Jack Venice as the teenager seduced by the new neighbor Nicki Hunter), but all in all an excellent feature. I toned down the "demons" aspect somewhat, but it was a fairly easy edit since the sex scenes actually enhanced the story line. Another feature that I recall was a easy edit was "8 to 4" (74 minutes) A true parody (comedy), it was well acted and the sex scenes were a real part of the story line. If anything, the difficulty was having enough film remaining after cutting the close-ups and silly camera angles, which were thankfully few in number. the most common close-up that I always cut is what I call the 'butts and balls' shot. I've edited more than one sex scene where simply cutting out this shot reduced the scene runtime by 20%. This shot adds nothing to a scene and IMO is a gross distraction. Another editing move I always do is remove the cutaways to a second sex scene and then put them back together, so there is one complete sex scene after the other.  [Link] |
| alphadachs Member 475 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Mar 15 2011 : 4:28PM, but it can be done. A beautiful, funny, sexy, stylish classic.Though I adore the movies from the 70s and early 80s, they do tend to intercut two sex scenes an awful lot, which to me eviscerates both scenes; just as one is heating up, we suddenly switch to the other, and the arousal level takes a quick drop. (A couple of recent examples I have watched: Nurses of the 407 was especially guilty of this sin, as all but one sex scene came in overlapped pairs; The Budding of Brie badly hurt two potentially lovely scenes by intertwining them. Both movies were still very enjoyable, but could have been just that much better.) Edited by - alphadachs on 3/15/2011 4:31:22 PM [Link] |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Mar 15 2011 : 8:40PM Intercutting sex scenes is just fine. This is filmmaking, remember? [Link] |
| alphadachs Member 475 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Mar 16 2011 : 12:43AM [Link] |
BlackSix  All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Mar 16 2011 : 4:58AM [Link] |
| Robert Member My past is a foreign country. Most things are different there, including word usage. 503 Posts 12/06 | Posted - Mar 16 2011 : 12:37PM [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Mar 16 2011 : 3:46PM [Link] |
| Aplus Senior Member 1431 Posts 5/05 | Posted - Mar 16 2011 : 4:14PM I think it's always been a tough balancing act. In recent years, maybe the last 10-15, I've always preferred more sex to actual story. I don't necessarily want it that way, but just find that few filmmakers and especially actors can hold/command my attention that way on a consistent basis. I do think there are maybe a few handfuls of actors/actresses that are good or at least interesting, but most films get bogged down by poor casting choices (especially supporting players) and bad/impatient filmmakers. [Link] |
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