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YogaDame All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jul 22 2005 : 3:14PM
I just saw the link in the left navigation bar. I hadn't realized that it'd launched yet. It looks great! Cute logo.
alisonb
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Posted - Jul 25 2005 : 9:45AM
wow, i had no idea either...very cool.

are there eventually going to be message boards on that site?

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Posted - Jul 25 2005 : 1:17PM
shhh ;) it's not done yet, but we wanted to at least get it posted. yes, eventually we will create a forum there and many of the other features currently on adt. we're still filling out the database so we have a solid foundation to do more with it.

we're open to any suggestions.

YogaDame All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jul 25 2005 : 4:29PM
Oopsie. Well, it's looking mighty fine, even in its unfinished state. I like the bestseller list, which I don't remember seeing before. And I'm looking forward to the forums. I have no suggestions other than adding a search function (for toy names, toy categories, material types, manufacturers, prices, and reviewers). It sounds like that's already in the works, however.
Loraine
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Posted - Jul 26 2005 : 12:02AM
I couldn't resist a peek, looks great Steph -- good for you!
 
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Posted - Jul 26 2005 : 9:48AM
I was just kidding with the shhh. Yes, we should be able to add a search function for toy names, manuf, categories, and reviewers. Prices will hopefully come later (much bigger project.) I also want to work on getting some toys for review.

Categorizing is such a nightmare! A dildo fits so many places...

YogaDame All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jul 26 2005 : 10:03AM
I can only imagine. You'd have to go back through each and every old review and figure out the materials from which those dildos are made. I do like the way Blowfish categorizes their inventory:

Silicone Dildos
Glass Dildos
Acrylic Dildos
Real-Feel Materials, Jelly, Metal, and Other Dildos

I'm not sure we have enough reviews yet to make that worth the trouble initially, but maybe we can add subsections like that in the future. I'd be willing to help with that project; just send me an e-mail if you like.

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Posted - Jul 27 2005 : 2:17PM
Thanks, Yoga. Actually the biggest categorization problem I ran across was a guy reviewing a dildo he used in his ass. Originally I thought the for men, for women, anal play, for couples would be a good way to browse, especially for people unfamiliar with toys. Then I had the dildo in the ass problem. Two people could review the same toy and use it in different ways, but I have to categorize the same toy the same way. Just a small snag that made me want to rethink everything well after it had been done.

That's the problem with building websites. They always need renovation.

YogaDame All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jul 27 2005 : 2:53PM
That's a toughie, for sure. You could simply put it in the anal category (even though it's a dildo, not a butt plug), but that'd only work if no one else reviews it later as a vaginal toy. I see the difficulty.
Matt47
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Posted - Jul 27 2005 : 3:42PM
I think there should be a section just titled 'Dildos', which could include reviews of them used vaginally and anally, then separated by men and women users. The anal play section would include the butt plugs, anal beads, inflatables and those toys which looks like clubs... :)
Drew Black
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Posted - Jul 28 2005 : 2:08PM
the current categorization is set up in a primary-secondary system. it's not obvious though. Each toy gets assigned a single primary category and can have one or more secondary categories. I think need to redesign the system to be more of a parent-child relationship. Examples:

Current system for Ron Jeremy Cyberskin dildo:
primary category: dildo
secondary: cyberskin, pornstar

Parent-child:
Top category: dildo
child: cyberskin dildo
child: pornstar cyberskin dildo

Current system: anal toys
secondaries: butt plug, acrylic

Parent-child:
Top: anal toys
child: butt plugs
child: acrylic butt plugs


Both systems have their pros and cons.

Drew Black
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Posted - Jul 28 2005 : 2:10PM
forgot to mention that the system is complicated because we aren't differentiating between the categorization of the review and the categorization of the product. generally they are the same so we felt that it's best to categorize based on the product and not the review content. i.e. a dildo is a dildo vs. dildos reviews by men/women.
darkangel
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Posted - Jul 28 2005 : 4:47PM
Hooray! I've found a new home page!
MASAMUNE
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Posted - Jul 30 2005 : 9:13PM
LOL!

Steph, Drew, do you guys do your own webpage design? I especially like the SexToyTalk.com logo

jayo All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jul 31 2005 : 3:17PM
Why even a "him" vs. "her" categorization? As mentioned, a lot of things are used for both sexes.
 
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Posted - Jul 31 2005 : 3:56PM
Masamune - yes - I do the front end (html, graphics) - Drew does the backend (database, dynamic pages, etc.) Thanks for the compliments on the logo. I had fun making it and normally I hate doing logos. We have developed a handful of sites/stores outside pornland.

jayo - I was just trying to put myself in the shoes of someone who is not familiar with toys. When I show up at a website I want to know immediately where I should go. I'm sure the category system can be better - we will keep working on it.

btw - there's a bug in the submit review form - the overall rating is getting lost. That's why the last couple reviews have zero rating. I'm holding off on posting the most recent reviews until I hear back from the reviewer on what the rating should be.

jayo All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jul 31 2005 : 5:12PM
I was keeping my mouth shut because I figure the last thing you need is more "help." But in the end I thought I'd ask just to satisfy my own curiosity.

FWiW: you might consider having the same toy review show up in more than one category. That might solve some problems. Certain vibes, like the dildo-shaped, might show up in both a men's and women's category (men's toys: vibrators: dildo-shaped and women's toys: vibrators: dildo shaped; women's toys: dildos: vibrating), whereas the "rabbit" type vibes might only show up in the women's section. The "wand" type might only show up in women's sections, unless you're talking about a specifically male attachment.

A thought.

I'll be happy to submit reviews for the few things I've used. I like how this site has multiple reviews of the same thing, since toys are so subjective. Almost every piece of garbage is someone's favorite, and vice-versa. Reading multiple reviews often helps give me a more complete picture of what the item is.

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Posted - Aug 1 2005 : 1:38PM
jayo - i think i do have the same toy in multiple categories, but i'm not sure. i started adding cats a year ago. i'm literally confusing myself in the whole process :)

yes, please do submit reviews of any toys you've used. that would be great! definitely, the more opinions the better. at the moment please either email me the overall rating or include it in the review itself (since that part of the form isn't working and i can't get it fixed for a couple weeks.)

i don't know how many of you remember the early renditions of adult dvd talk. needless to say it changed/grew a lot over time. we aim to do the same with sex toy talk. i have a lot to learn about the toy world.

jayo All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Aug 1 2005 : 10:25PM
I'll send some reviews over the weekend.

You didn't ask but if it's any help, here's how I would suggest for men's categories:

Overall: break into--
fuckables (or penetrables) - anything for a man to dip his wick into (dolls, pussies, sleeves, pumps)
insertables - anything meant to go up a man's ass (dildos and butt-plugs)
wearables - anything that can be worn (cock rings, ticklers, nipple clips)
misc - lubes and anything else that doesn't fit in above

So that would further look something like this:

(Dolls are easy because they break down into solid vs. inflatable, and then by material.)
For Men: fuckables: dolls: solid: silicone (example: Realdoll, Superbabe, First PC)
For Men: fuckables: dolls: solid: foam (example: Hustler virtual girl, various Japanese foamies)
For Men: fuckables: dolls: solid: misc (torsos, other materials, etc.)
For Men: fuckables: dolls: inflatable: latex (example: Latex Lover)
For Men: fuckables: dolls: inflatable: vinyl (example: Alexa)
For Men: fuckables: dolls: inflatable: misc (example: in case I forgot something)

(sleeves by type)
For Men: fuckables: pumps (doesn't matter if it's for enlargement or pleasure, since they're typically sold either way)
For Men: fuckables: realistics (anything meant to look reasonably close to a female body part, like a Pussy & Anus)
For Men: fuckables: sleeves (anything that's not meant to look realistic, like the Fleshlight)
For Men: fuckables: misc (things that look like hands, boobs, and anything else that doesn't quite fit in)

(by function)
For Men: insertables: dildos: static
For Men: insertables: dildos: vibrating
For Men: insertables: butt-plugs: static
For Men: insertables: butt-plugs: vibrating
For Men: insertables: other

(by type)
For Men: wearables: cock-rings
For Men: wearables: ticklers
For Men: wearables: misc

For Men: misc: lubes
For Men: misc (anything else)

I have way too much time on my hands....

Edited by - jayo on 8/1/2005 10:52:05 PM




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