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| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 |  Posted - May 15 2014 : 8:59AMSomeone at Yahoo Answers has recently asked a question: Is it true not all women have orgasms during sex? Is this true? And if so why? And if not why do people say this? And one of the answers was: Ok. Here's how it is. The MAJORITY of women are not capable of orgasming from penetration alone. Us women usually need A LOT of clitoral stimulation to climax. It's usually difficult for us to get that stimulation from the act of sex alone. Some of us have ways around this. Some do manual stimulation during sex, others use bullet vibrators (much quicker and easier) during penetration to achieve orgasm. Others just suffer without ever orgasming durning sex.. And that's just a shame. Source(s): I'm a woman that doesn't climax from sex. ;P https://answers.yahoo.com/question Vast majority of porn movies don't show much clitoral stimulation for the woman at all. Guys seldom even try to please their woman this way, let alone bring her all the way to orgasm. It's as if pleasing the woman and bringing her all the way to orgasm during sexual intercourse is a fetish and a specialty type of porn, rather than mainstream porn and the usual thing to do. I realize that a lot of people are ignorant about female orgasm and what it takes to please a woman during sex, because sexual pleasure isn't something sex-education classes focus on in schools. But to see such sexual ignorance in porn is a little surprising. Because porn guys and gals are supposed to be better at it than ordinary people. [Link] |
| Macko69 Senior Member Gone for a walk. 1985 Posts 5/08 | Posted - May 15 2014 : 12:19PM [Link] |
| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 | Posted - May 15 2014 : 12:29PM I don't know why you would say this. Because even a casual search of porn pictures on Google shows a lot of sex but very few pictures of guys masturbating their lady's clit with their hand, during anal or vaginal sex. What you say is so obviously false that it isn't funny. Edited by - Dan on 5/15/2014 12:30:48 PM [Link] |
| Macko69 Senior Member Gone for a walk. 1985 Posts 5/08 | Posted - May 15 2014 : 3:50PM [Link] |
| ninja1 Senior Member 2939 Posts 1/08 | Posted - May 16 2014 : 1:50PM Edited by - ninja1 on 5/16/2014 2:32:43 PM [Link] |
Gore Gore Girl  Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - May 16 2014 : 7:10PM @ninja, porn may not be responsible for educating people, but I do think it's worth asking why certain sex acts are privileged over others and why female sexual pleasure takes a back seat. Why isn't female pleasure an essential ingredient? How does showing women orgasming from clitoral stimulation during penetration, or whatever else, detract from male pleasure? [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - May 17 2014 : 3:04AM [Link] |
| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 | Posted - May 17 2014 : 9:34AM Yes, I agree. Making sex look real rather than acting is a constant struggle in porn. And one way to solve this problem is for the guy to massage his woman's clitoris during his sexual intercourse with her. Because when the guy makes an obvious effort to please his woman, then this makes her cries and reactions of pleasure look real and genuine. This is the solution to the common complaint of porn fans that the woman's cries and expressions of pleasure look fake and exaggerated. Porn fans often blame the woman for her fake behavior. But it's actually her guy's fault. Because it's his lack of effort to please her that makes her reactions of pleasure look so fake. Whether the woman's reactions of pleasure look real or fake depends on whether her guy is making any visible effort to please her or not. It makes sense for the woman to react with pleasure only when her guy is obviously trying to please her. Or else it looks to the viewer like she is acting and pretending. Which isn't hot. Edited by - Dan on 5/17/2014 9:35:32 AM [Link] |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - May 17 2014 : 10:27AM  [Link] |
| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 | Posted - May 17 2014 : 10:45AM Fake pretending is easy to do. But it isn't hot. The big problem in porn is making the woman's pleasurable reactions look real and genuine. And it's a problem, because the meaning of the woman's behavior depends on the context in which she behaves, which she doesn't control. It's the guy who determines this context with his behavior towards her. It's the guy who creates the context and makes his woman's pleasurable reactions look either real or fake, depending on whether he makes a visible effort to please her or not. [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - May 17 2014 : 10:51AM [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - May 17 2014 : 10:52AM [Link] |
| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 | Posted - May 17 2014 : 11:09AM But when you talk about the meaning of the woman's behavior, then obviously it's the guy who creates the context for her behavior. Because by definition, the context of the woman's behavior is everything that doesn't include her behavior. Many porn fans complained in the past that guys in a gang-gang often ended up stroking themselves, while waiting for their turn. The woman was busy with other guys. But it was a turn off nevertheless. The same thing can be said about the woman masturbating themselves with a guy. Because it implies that the guy is either too busy or too selfish to please his woman. Either way this isn't hot. Edited by - Dan on 5/17/2014 11:17:39 AM [Link] |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - May 17 2014 : 11:32AM In this regard, porn actually has to portray a more enlightened approach to satisfying the women, than is the norm in true-life pigland. All I can say as a very long-time porn fan and consumer is that, believing that the girls are enjoying themselves and deriving pleasure from the interaction -- and the occasional holy grail of the girl having a genuine orgasm -- adds a lot to the enjoyment for the fans (at least for those of us who are not pigs 100% of the time). What I think it comes down to is how much screen-time can reasonably be devoted to the girl's being satisfied, versus the prime mission of porn: i.e. the girls getting the guys off -- for men to masturbate to. Remember, there is couple's porn, which greatly increases the dynamic of the female's pleasure and screen-time devoted to it, for those who prefer this approach (and for those of us who like it in addition to typical mainstream porn). [Link] |
| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 | Posted - May 17 2014 : 11:44AM I don't see why devoting screen time to showing the woman's pleasure is any problem at all. Because sexual pleasure is supposed to be there all the time for both the woman and the guy at the same time. There is no need to choose between the two, because you can have both at the same time. Especially during anal sex for the woman, her pussy is so free and available for her guy to masturbate with his hand that it isn't funny. It's not as if the guy is busy doing something else with his hand, while he is riding his lady's ass with his cock. His hand isn't busy anyway most of the time. He might as well use it to please his lady, rather let it be idle. [Link] |
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| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - May 17 2014 : 12:54PM Personally, I don't like too many things going on at the same time. If a male performer is capable of paying more attention to the girl -- without fucking-up the camera angles! -- then go for it. I suspect, with anal, that most viewers want to see the stud riding the girl doggie like a bucking bronco -- with an unobstructed view. If the stud is trying to play with the girl's privates in this position, I can see this as a problem. However, while a girl is riding the stud reverse cowgirl anal, I can see where the stud playing with the girl's pussy could be part of the mix (but not the entire time). Also, I'm fairly convinced that viewers would much rather see the girl's pussy, tits and face during reverse cowgirl, than to see the stud, again, blocking the view. I can see where we can and should be finding ways for the studs to show more attention to the girls. But, this must be done without disrupting the action and interfering with good camera angles. I'm supportive of improving stud's skills in general to accommodate more and better interaction between the performers as equals. We can start with doing away with the studs audibly ordering the girls around like a piece of meat. I wonder if the one-armed POV performer/"directors" know (or care) how off-putting this is? Also, how about telling the girls (i.e. the studs telling the girls) how beautiful they look, what a good job they're doing (i.e. encouraging them) and how much they enjoyed their scene (after it's over, of course). Note: This doesn't mean the studs are allowed to talk more than is polite, and never -- never! -- during the cumshot and cleanup  (See Peter North and Craven Moorehead giggling and talking over Peter's cumshots if you don't believe me.) Edited by - Goldstein on 5/17/2014 12:58:20 PM [Link] |
| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 | Posted - May 21 2014 : 5:04PM Yes, the fucking guy blocking the view of his woman's pussy or other female charms is always a turn off for the viewer. Because such pussy-blocking can look to the viewer as if the guy is being possessive with his woman and is feeling jealous towards the viewer. This can make the viewer feel unwelcome in the scene. Because in real life, guys often are possessive with their woman and jealous towards other guys, especially when other guys show interest in their woman. In fact, the fucking guy needs to go out of his way to show to the viewer that he invites and welcomes the viewer to watch his lady and her charms. Even neutral behavior from the guy might seem like jealousy and possessiveness to the viewer, because jealousy is the default behavior for most guys in real life. When the fucking guy plays his lady's pussy with his hand in the reverse-cowgirl-anal position, then he should tease the viewer with her pussy and reveal it to him, rather than cover it up and hide it from him. It's like the guy should be boasting to the viewer about his lady's charms by showing them off to him, so that the viewer feels welcome to look at the lady and watch him debauch her pussy and ass. His hand-strokes on her pussy should be so varied, exaggerated and broad that it ends up being a pussy peek-a-boo tease for the viewer, with her pussy assuming all kinds interesting shapes and sizes to the surprise and the entertainment of the viewer. If the guy uses several different hand-motions on the lady's pussy, such as circular, side-to-side, and lengthwise along her slit, and he uses such broad strokes that the viewer gets to see her pussy half of the time, then this can be very entertaining for the viewer to watch. Edited by - Dan on 5/21/2014 5:11:11 PM [Link] |
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