I just feel that writers could do much better still to give us semi possible plots...if they want to do videos with stories and not do GONZO. Give us some tease. Not start the scene with dumb dialogue and suddenly be going at it 3 minutes later. As in the

Gave some tease leading up to the sex (e.g. start with hot girl walking by teacher with a admiring glance...to a wiggle of her behind the next time she walks into his class...to...doing a "Basic Instinct leg cross over" showing her before that in the ladies room taking off her panties)...to her returning to his office closing the door/locking it behind her to the sex...with the teacher at first very reluctant pushing her off a few times before giving in...OR during the 3rd tease have her bend over while commando...THEN go to the sex scene where ever it takes place...in the back of her car...his office...

Your point about how simulated violence would give certain types ammunition...I'll have to disagree...if that were the case then should they stop: pretending to choke? light face slapping w/ contact (sometimes not that light), BDSM would be over no? No more spanking (see the pink on their actresses cheeks sometimes, punishment videos would be no more (e.g. piano teacher forcing himself on the student, spanking her and then going for some anal...TUSHY...with Carter Cruise)...No more "babysitter theme" videos...etc.

If simulated violence were ammunition...then these types would go at mainstream Hollywood too...and all we'd have now is Disney and superhero movies...

SFX...so easy to do...creaming can be faked..I mean if the male actors are using lube anyway...sometimes injecting lube in the actresses anus first...why not eh vag? They allow "creampies"...and yet I don't think there is any sfx used...

How about requiring the women to at least pretend to convulse at the end? Or "shiver" a little...curl into a ball and say "OUCH!! It hurts...but that was GOOOOD! Loved it!!"...hand over her privates. Grin on face...

BUKKAKE scenes...when guys don't have enough...use a serringe and squirt some milk on her face, maybe water downed lube that looks whitish...without having the camera focus on which dick it came from...

Public Sex/humiliation: have people that work for the company pretend to be strangers...catch them...be turned off threatening to call the police..have her act like she doesn't actually want to get caught...looking left right every 5 seconds while enjoying whatever she's doing...can slice in video of families walking by that location filmed at a different time...obviously...no faces shown...just to make it appear more busy than it was...etc.

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Why have you apparently apologized for misreading what I stated only to go on to make a counter argument to an argument I never made, for the second time? I specifically referred to your suggestion of a simulated punch to the stomach. I said absolutely nothing about the status quo of real slapping, choking or spanking that has limited resistance. Those forms of physical force, especially in the context of being done between consenting parties, are accepted more readily than a punch to the stomach, which will often be regarded as malicious. When you create discussions like this, it is a waste of time deviating from the path you set. If you want to create a wish list or some other fantasy wank fodder inspiration, that's fine but you ought to have the courage of your convictions not to move away from being called out.

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Some guys said they didn't like my ideas others liked a few of them. Ok. Fine.

Back to our lists of wants...again, most of which (if not all)..I think are doable...cost and should not be crossing any lines...

To start again..."better/more believable storylines"...that have lead-up/tease...again...should be done...hire better writers or pick better "scripts" (not sure if in most cases the "actors" are actually given lines or asked to ad-lib)...

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How often have we seen videos where the dude is suppose to shot all over the chick's face...stands there for minutes...nothing comes out. Usually when it does it's not much. Rarely is there a mess. :) Which is what we'd all love to see. Could they simply have the camera focus on her face then from out of frame use a use a dropper to shoot some lube perhaps..so that there's more on the face or where ever it was supposed to go.

Chicks could pretend to be cumming as they fake orgasms. Do the hip action you'd see in some one that has to pee badly but couldn't find a bathroom for the past hour or two...that would sell it...and finish with a little quivering, eyes rolling back...

CHEAP. Free even (hip motion...to say "...i'm ciuuuUUUMING!!") :)

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Do you believe we all like the same things because it would give credence to your statements? You don't speak for me in saying we all want to see a messy facial. I prefer creampies or body cumshots and couldn't care less about facials.

Perhaps you hadn't considered that some people want some things to be real without any augmentation? I can easily see criticism toward a scene for faking or augmenting a cumshot. I remember a review with a faked creampie many years that drew critcism from the reviewer.

Simply put, you can't please everyone.

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And sure...ofc we all like something different. Some like seeing beautiful women get a messy facial. Others do not. Some prefer creampies. Others do not. Etc.

"to look real without the augmentation..(sfx)" Ummm sure...again. "why not?". But, would it not look more "real" if: they didn't wipe away the sweat or..take the video to another level if you saw both the chic and the dude cum? Wouldn't you find that hotter if she pretended to convulse (suddenly raise and lower her hips while saying "I'm cuuuUUUMING!!") then have some drops of liquid hit the floor or table below her vag? I'd think most WOULD like to see this...to make it seem more like she DID actually cum (or her character). "Why not" do it if you could? Just as I know some videos want the "wet look" so they get a water bottle and spray the chic's body or pour oil on it. If they took the time to have oil around...why not inject some in her vag to make a more "realistic" creaming/cumming? :) All porn sets have lube and access to water no?

I bet they fake the squirting sometimes with water or just ask the girl to pee...we wouldn't know the difference...

And about the "simulated violence"..that there's a double standard...not sure I agree (not being in the industry)...So easy to prove at the end of filming that the bruising was makeup (include footage of the girl smearing away the bruise). Also, if there was a double standard...if anti-porn groups did come down on simulated violence..why not on the companies that do spanking leaving hand prints...clearly that was done with actual contact. Or the face slaps that on occasion come very close to being an actual slap (I've seen that). There are "painful anal" videos...search for those...if any genre would be prosecuted...or give certain groups reason to come down on XXX...genres like that would. I'm sure there are others I don't know about.

"Tears"...can be faked..and again if there is "painful anal" videos that look literally as if they were forced are NOT being banned and those directors/companies aren't being sued...simply using a raw onion to get tears (if she can't do it..some actors can think of something sad and cry)...just to add to the validity of the story (e.g. Brother/sis theme videos...most sisters won't give it up no matter what...so there's going to have to be either a believable blackmail or she's taken by force or drugged --can be faked using camera techniques--simulate her head spinning...james dean did it with a scene with Christiana Cinn)...

But if no one is doing anything I've mentioned already...they aren't going to...at least not anytime soon...just my thoughts. Wants. :) Again. I'm just saying "why not?". Quick/cheap.

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I have a reasonably nice car but I could have bought something cheaper, more economical and is just as quick in city traffic but I chose not to. "Why not?" I hear you ask. Because I wanted the car I have and I exercised my right to buy something I like regardless of the alternatives available. I am not lazy, I'm making a choice to do something that lines up with what I envisioned.

Had it not occurred to you that while a studio or production team has a fan base it needs to keep happy in order to stay afloat, what they produce is largely to be done within their scope? That scope can be entirely their own ideas, they may have consulted fans but it's ultimately their decision. If you're going to say "why not try my wank fodder ideas?" you should put forward a business plan to inspire confidence that your suggestion would put them in a better financial position than they are doing.

"Why not?" Perhaps your idea could alienate the majority of the studio's customer base for the sake of gratifying one fan or a small minority, leading to the studio to lose money or even worse, prevent it from being able to repay its creditors?

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And regarding "why not--more realistic faked violence"...since they're doing it anyway..simulating it...in some cases crossing the line (e.g. BRUTALX)..where the slaps to the face are more than "sissy slaps". They have weight. The women just don't get knocked off their feet and start crying. And, there is another genre I literally came across by chance called "freeze time"--idea is PERV has a watch or app that can freeze women in time. Then he has his way with them. "Unfreezes" time and they have no idea what happened. Kid's sexual fantasy...I think many boys have thought this idea but never mentioned And those videos are not underground..they are essentially "mainstream XXX" as they are easily found....it..this is after all "r***". The "actresses" just don't run off afterwards screaming in fear of their lives after being violated.

Not to drag this out but...the "to appeal to the masses...to stay afloat.." idea while again a reasonable guess...isn't it. Or atleast I don't think so. They're in it for the $$$$. Has it not occurred to YOU...that they could try new ideas (which they ARE...new genres popping up all the time) and sfx...toys...to appeal to MORE people...so MORE people would buy THEIR videos. Make sense?? :)

In any case, we're all free to voice our own opinions. I'll have to agree to disagree on some of the reasoning. Just found it a little odd no one's tried the ideas I've mentioned (e.g. fake convulsions, shiver when coming, fake creaming....). What I think it is...is that companies either never thought about "sfx" (the one's I mentioned). Lack of creativity in that area. Just prefer to follow a formula. Some of my "wants" are perfectly (IMHO) reasonable and would just take things to another level. Every one just wants to get the filming done quick using formula A..clean up, pay the crew and actors...go. Maybe I should start suggesting to them directly..via Twitter, Instagram...heh...

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I think you're being rather naive in thinking I don't realise they're in it for the money - as the majority of the porn industry is made in capitalist states, it stands to reason that producers and studios wish to profit. I never felt there was charity or altruism at play.

I am open to ideas, but I am open to ones that will work or have a well thought-out strategy beyond how it will gratify one person without being at unjustifiable cost. As you rightly said, the producers/studios are in it for the money so the production has to be profitable.

Unless you can put forward a detailed business plan highlighting costs to the studio and projections of revenue and pre-tax profits of putting your ideas into practice, why would you expect a studio or producer to give anything other than the diplomatic corporate response that "they'll take it under advisement", particularly when I don't imagine you will be putting much in the way of financial risk in to your suggestion?

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I also suggested "acting" type ideas...such as faking convulsions. Some XXX chicks do that. FREE!! :)

Better writing of scripts...which is why I'm here again...Just saw a video with Gianna Dior and some dude. A scene that worked. Had some thought in it.

The scene--GF lays on bed BF standing at edge of bed, asks GF to stop taking selfies, grabs phone and holds it above his head (he's taller than her..she'd never get it)...as she jumps for it playfully her towel drops (now she's naked). Then he hands back the phone after she threatens him with "no sex" by opening and closing her legs. No panties (the tease...in addition to before this being naked)..then onto the sex..

The writer took the viewer from clothed GF to naked to the sex scene. No sudden jumps (e.g. clothed one minute then the next second they are naked. No tease. The transitions from one scene to the next had a purpose. Or a believability. "It could happen"..Most XXX do not have a "it could happen" aspect to them. At least the one's that make an attempt at a story...

There was one with Candice Dare...PERV stands on the hill behind the home of CD...she's seen in bath then getting out...he some how finds his way inside and into her bathroom and starts getting naked. Bathes..HEH..doesn't use the shower like most men. Then in the next scene he appears out fo nowhere and puts a stocking between her lips (her character could still have screamed)...as would any woman who gets ambushed by an intruder in her home...she would be fighting with all her might to escape, shaking, sheer terror in her eyes...intruder in the home who just took a bath? Likely won't be reasoned with..could be violent. But she like in most XXX scripts gives in without a fight. And enjoys the sex. HUH?? If they're going to go down that road...write into the script some plausibility..IN what way would they go from an almost sexual assault to sex...why would she enjoy it??

Clearly guys are writing these kinds of XXX plots. So they aren't worrying about the censors...Candice's screams could have been screams of terror they were so loud and intense. Clearly in this scene we can guess this should have been forced sex....etc. Yet as I s aid...in their universe the female character suddenly isn't afraid of what the intruder might do (stab her? Shoot her...beat her..)...immediately gives in and loves it..starts talking that XXX chic talk "fuck me daddy..OH GOD OH GOD...etc.". Not "...SToooooP!! Please Don't!!!!!!!!!"... I'm not into violence against women. Just an example I came across of writing that made no sense. As is usually the case.

One more example...14 black men Candice Dare is a bar owner. They come in before the bar actually open. Sit at the bar. Talking in a friendly manner. Every one is laughing. Then she steps from around the bar. They're still laughing. Then suddenly one guy starts squeezing her ass. She doesn't freak. As most women would...knowing what is likely to happen (e.g. 1 woman alone with 14 men..one man already taking liberties..no permission, no tease by her to say "Come get it")...the sex begins...In what world would that happen?? Instead they could have wrote the start of this scene as the bar owner getting into a drinking game...looses..and....being in another state of mind...starts getting naked, starts grabbing at their belts...making racial innuendos..."that could happen"...

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I find it odd studios haven't been using SFX or body makeup, adding Sound FX or props. E.g. when the male actor can't cum or only has a drop. When a real messy load might be preferred by some of us. Why would a studio not prefer to see the male actors have more of a load than many do today? Used to be a "job requirement" back in the 80's. Back then the guys always had enough to cover the porn girls face pretty much. Now a days we come to the finale after 20 minutes of good hot sex only to see the guy put out only a tiny drop. This is when I think the studio could have faked some extra cum (e.g. use a dropper hidden from camera view..could have one of the actors put a few drops on the floor to say he had more than he did).

In JP XXX they like seeing the girls get wet in their panties. Have them leave the panties on while getting them wet enough to see a wet spot. Odd that isn't done in American XXX or even EUro XXX. Could fake this. Add it to a scene. Maybe this might make that kind of video even more appealing without changing the key elements of that studio's idea that sells those particular videos.

Or, in filming, CUT..then use a brush and dab some white liquid and apply it to the inside of her thighs to simulate her creaming hard...In videos where they're already doing creampies for example...or for studios like CUM4k...which are already showing creampies where the guy DID have enough of a load where there was enough semen flowing out of her vagina and down her thighs. But other times there were guys that didn't have enough so you only saw some cum drip from her vagina while in doggie but none rolled down her thighs. Right there they could have used a brush...etc.

In the end. If it hasn't been done by now it won't...heh..or not for a while longer.

The point about getting another porn actress to do a "moan over"...some women just don't sound good when they moan or scream. Just how it is. As was the case with the late August Ames. Very attractive woman. Bought sounded like some one was torturing a cat. Where other girls like Christianna Cinn sound to my ears hot. Natural. As does Charisma Capelli. Or have these girls coach other girls on their moans. Something else I don't think is being done today. As mainstream actors go to voice coaches to learn a specific accent. SO much could be done in audio FX wise..

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Personally, I'll take no cumshot at all over some fake stuff. It's always some tube of white goo that the makers think you won't notice, but you can always tell. The squirt never lines up with the peehole.

And OMFG, please don't go back to over dubbed moaning and groaning. We got enough of that in the 70s. It's awful!!!

However, I do like cheesy old porn......so maybe, yeah......

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I can remember years ago in a scene and for cum shot the guy had a tube alongside his cock which slightly became visible and he "pumped" out quite literally a cum shot....

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Or, if we're faking "girl cum"...even easier. When fingering put some white cream on the finger tips. The perv's watching wouldn't know if the dude fingering her (or if she's masturbating) already had the cream on the tips of the fingers...assume she's creaming/cumming. So EASY to do yet few if any studios are doing this.

Body makeup to cover bruises and marks from accidents. Why are they not covered up before filming? Lazy. All girls have the basic makeup to cover up blemishes on their faces (e.g. racoon eyes...some girls hae a darkness around their eyes. Genetics. So they use I think "concealer" so the skin tone is the same).

These little things could elevate XXX so easily yet every one is too lazy to make the effort.

Would it not be HOT to see a Kelsi Monroe or Savannah Bond getting fucked in the ass while she starts squeezing white liquid out of her vagina saying she's cumming?

Odd. Porn dudes from the early 90's and before...they all came to work with cup fulls. They could easily cover the faces or asses of the girls. Today most are lucky to squeeze out a few drops.

There was a scene with Staci Carr...she climbs onto a window ledge which is about a foot deep wearing heels (dangerous...what if she fell?)..she squats...great view...had light from the window..sunny...she masturbates...they managed to REC the wetness sound..how great it would have been if she began creaming. Or if they faked it. Was an FTV. SO EASY. To see a white puddle on the ledge...

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Faking Cum shots. For both male and female actors--without complicating things for the studioes as most are IMHO fairly lazy anyway. As far as props go or using SFX. It's rarely done. There was one with Christianna Cinn...for TUSHY...guy starts finger fucking her pussy, she squirts/SCREAMS..they SLO-MO'd her squirt and put reverb in her SCREAM. Well done. Basic technique but almost never done. In Porn. What they do today is just have maybe 3-5 positions they want done. No order. No positions relate e.g. BJ to missionary to feet...??? HEH.... One positoion to flow into the next and then the next...e.g. kiss on lips to kiss down her neck to her nipples...etc. Go from pussy to butt. Not out of the blue a little chatter to anal..and they 9/10 times never ask the porn chick/character if they can fuck her ass. Most women will be so PO'd if htey suddenly get it in the ass no warning. :)

Mike Adrano. Some of the companies he's worked with or owns...e.g. True Anal...he barks commands during. Dont do that. Pause the camera . or tell her what he wants before they start. Barking commands during makes the sex robotic.

Sex is too fast. They need to learn to slow it down like they aren't in a hurry. Gradually ramp up the fuck speed. Have a tempo. A beat. e.g. 3s IN, 1.5s pause once in DEEP then 1s OUT. :) Guys just go full speed immediately. Some chicks do the same....one speed Cowboy. No beat/thythm.

Only a few are GOOD...e.g. Kissa and her husband SIns. Cherry Kiss....Sheena Shoaw...they actu like they actually enjoy it. Have technique. Like porn pornstars from the 80's. Seka, Mayrlyn Chambers, Keisha, They all knew what they were doing and the stories made sense. Very hard to find that today. Today actors are just "willing to do". Few are GOOD.

The directors just go through a check-list...don't really spend time "directing" e.g. ask women to lift hip into air and lightly shake when they are cumming. Or are trying to pretend they are. Ask them to sync the moans to each thrust. Slow down the pace. React when the head of his cock touches her anus by having her grab handfuls of bedsheets while in "cat strecch" position drop lower jaw...moaning gradually louder the deeper he does....in SYNC! :)

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Good to see people in the XXX biz are starting to up the quality of their productions e.g. Pure Taboo and Bellasa Films. But they're the only 2 I know of....haven't seen any work from the 2 companies recommended to me yet.

How hard could it be to ask the girls to e.g. immediately put one hand on the guys arm as his dick touches the mouth of her vagina or anus? Little things like that. Or, she could grab hand fulls of bedsheets...camera goes to her hands...she arches her lower back getting into a "cat stretch position" and grins that GRIN...

...or when doing anal (or vag) pretend its a struggle at first when in fact she has anal regularly when working and in personal life. Have her put her hand on his chest as if to push him away or control how deep he goes at first or to control his speed...

e.g. there was a vdieo done by maybe amateurs (or acted like amateurs)...at one point of trying anal for the first time she has him pull out and she rolls onto her side saying she's in pain. He asks is she okay. She lays there curled up for a few seconds then tries again. Is okay. Takes it in slowly and sounds like she's enjoying it. In prone. Porn PRO's could do that...could ACT like she had to pause because her muscles tighened up at the wrong time...PAIN. Regroups....goes for it.

If they could ask the girls to have 3 levels of moan...quiet, medium and LOUD....at least. Not only one tone. And have the guys (as I mentioned) have a "fuck tempo" (e.g. 3 sec IN, 1.5 sec pause once in deep and a quick 1 second pull OUT. Makes the sex look passionate and injoyable for both. Not robotic.

And don't give the women commands DURING the filming e.g. True Anal Mike Adriano. NO heat. Just looks like 2 people who are willing to fuck and be filmed. And in a hurry.

ACT like they aren''t planning on going anywhere for 2 hours....that they h ave all the time in the world...

ACT like they fucked so much it HURTS....she at the end curls up into a ball with hand on pussy "ouuUUUCH!! SO SORE!!.....but, I loved it.." (she grins big and grimaces ..back and forth...). Or have her try to stand and fall back on the bed. Saying those words..."...give me a few minutes..."..."...I'm h ungry hon....can you make..."...guy leaves to prep after sex snack..."5 min later" she gets up and goes to shower...

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Why not play with the audio? e.g. the volume level of their moans/screams. If she's monotone or doesnt know how to moan/scream make it sound like she does. Gradually raising the volume. The deeper he goes inside her the louder the volume. How hard could that be?

Could REC and save the moans/screams from a girl who does it well but isnt famous yet. Or isnt good at fucking or hot...but happens to have an amazing sounding moan/scream. REC. Use it for antoher girl. If she says she's not good at moaning/screaming ask her to just make the face. Keep silent. That the SFX will be added .

Akk that seems to be done is slicing together scenes they want to keep. Taking out what they don't want. But no tweaking of the audio where they should.

je.g. deeper he does the LOUDER you raise the VOL of her moan when editing.

Again....so odd almost no one is adding female "money shots" to their videos. Could easily fake it. e.g. She says "I'm cumming...."...PAUSE camera...squirt in some "spunk" (white lube, BAM VISIONS has done this)...START REC again....she squeezes out just a little to start and stops...then only squeezes some out each time she moans/as long as she's moaning...so it looks really like HERS. How HOT would that be for the fans. The girls SHOULD have $shots too. So odd watching porn today....girl says "I'm cumming!!"...9/1 hex nothing flows out...dry. Why bother saying it? They don't even wiggle their hips to make it look like they are orgasming. Quiver. As if cold. Now if Atudio A could ask the girls to quiver+squeeze out fake girl cum (lube) THUMBS UP!!

MAKE THE EFFORT!! Not difficult at all or expensive. Lube is always on set. Just need to tell the girls what they want....just like in a mainstream Hollywood film they'll ask for a certain style of walk, or accent....etc. Part of the job "cting" or "making it look like..."

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