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orgymaster
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Posted - Mar 26 2015 : 2:58PM
I know the previous thread got locked because of some horrible comments, so please refrain from such acts on this one. But I am wondering what happened to her comeback, it seems that these days she's back to stripping in Minneapolis. Wish she came back after all, she's an absolute porn goddess.
TDTxx
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Posted - Mar 26 2015 : 6:57PM
i assume the word got out that no one wants to shoot her due to her association with Mr Stagliano
Mike South been working overtime imploring to various directors and studios about this fact it seems
Mister Fahrenheit All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 21 2015 : 2:07AM
So any news on this front? I'd like to see her in some new scenes.
JulieMasonFOREVER
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Posted - Apr 21 2015 : 9:04AM
^ +1, the world needs a lot of new scenes from queen of filth! Personally miss her sweet voice dirty talk!
steelbill
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Posted - May 16 2015 : 7:53PM
Kink would be great to start the comeback
 
pat362
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Posted - May 16 2015 : 9:04PM
^I have already said what I thought about Sheena's wish to make a return on the previous thread so I will refrain from adding anything so all I will say is that Kink is already in so much trouble with OSHA that they can't afford to hire her for anything even if she was open to it and they really wanted her.
Canadian_Cindy
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Posted - May 16 2015 : 11:58PM
It's tough for a porn company to justify hiring someone who was willing to risk spreading HIV in the talent pool. It is what it is. She was a great performer and there is a large body of work to enjoy.
Maxxx Stirner
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Posted - May 17 2015 : 12:29PM
^'HIV', being non infectious to begin with, doesn't spread. In fact it doesn't do much of anything.
Edited by - Maxxx Stirner on 5/17/2015 12:29:25 PM
SkyHigh
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Posted - May 17 2015 : 12:49PM
It sucks, was looking forward to her working with someone like Jonni Darkko again, but that doesn't appear to be in the cards.
Canadian_Cindy
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Posted - May 17 2015 : 6:43PM
You know what I meant; there is no need to play semantics. What point are you trying to make? She made a lifestyle choice and she has to face the consequences to her reputation and ability to get work. We all face that in life if we do something that affects the people we work with (perceived or real).
All I am saying really is to enjoy her body of work, because she probably is not going to be booked for many scenes going forward.
Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 5/17/2015 6:45:51 PM
killbillvol69 All-Star Supporter
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Posted - May 17 2015 : 7:22PM
^ Actually Cindy, Maxx is an HIV conspiracy theorist who claims there's no such thing as HIV and it's all just a political ploy to get us to give more to charities. Or something like that.
In other words, you'd do best to just ignore whatever he writes.
Canadian_Cindy
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Posted - May 17 2015 : 10:51PM
Haha, well that makes sense after his weird comment. Illuminati Population Control for the win!
Maxxx Stirner
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Posted - May 18 2015 : 1:49AM
^^Bill I'm far too parsimonious with reality to be into conspiracy theories. My parsimony is also why I reject the HIV hypothesis. This is not the place to get into that discussion, but here is some good writing on HIV and the porn industry which clearly demonstrates that 'HIV' is not infectious if it is anything at all.
https://hivskeptic.wordpress.com/2009/06/13/porn-industry-proves-that-%E2%80%9Chiv%E2%80%9D-is-not-sexually-transmitted/
What the entire data we have on modern porn testing going back to 1998 shows is that 'hiv' positivity corresponds to risk groups more then anything. Ironically in Mike Souths comment section one person said that it's going to have to be a big name performer that tests positive one day and not a classic risk group candidate that is usually positive. That there hasn't been at least a small string going back nearly 17 years now should tell you something. My issue with HIV is that it has been a spectre that has been haunting modern sexuality for over 30 years now. It's a large reason why we don't see anything approaching a sexual revolution sequel. it has also greatly hampered porn and all that it could be. If there is any possibility that this has been a big scientific mistake(and yes people scientists make big mistakes), then people in porn should investigate the hypothesis of non existence/non causation very closely. The world that Bill Hicks talks about(when they cure AIDS)may actually be closer then you think.
^^^Cindy, we don't the full context of Shaw and Stagliano. For one thing Stagliano consistently tests undetectable, and that might have factored into her choice to have sexual relationship with the man. There is a big difference between someone who is fully treated and someone who isn't. The official position on HIV admits this as much.
murdock
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Posted - May 18 2015 : 1:21PM
I hesitate to get roped into this nonsense, but the premise "Porn industry proves that HIV is not sexually transmitted" is utter horse shite.
The only thing the porn industry has proven is that HIV isn't particularly infectious (something we already knew) and that the transmission rate isn't 100% (again, something we already knew)
Suggesting that an absence of HIV outbreaks in the porn industry is proof that HIV isn't sexually transmitted is no different than suggesting skydiving without a parachute can't be fatal because Joan Murray survived a fall. (despite dozens of skydiving fatalities on record) You can't point to an exception and say it is true of everything.
Absence of proof is not proof of absence.
http://www.logicallyfallacious.com/index.php/logical-fallacies/54-argument-from-ignorance
Maxxx Stirner
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Posted - May 18 2015 : 9:42PM
murdock:
There's a difference between something that is sexually transmitted and something that is infectious. Pregnancy is sexually transmitted but not infectious.
I don't deny that there are certain proteins and free radicals that can be sexually transmitted from toxic seamen generating a Gallo positive test. However, this tends to be aided by toxic lifestyle and other factors. Usually someone who's Gallo positive has underlying oxidative and other stress factors that make them fertile for contraction. When you look at people like Laura Roxxx, Cameron Bay, Derrick Burts and the others they are all classic risk group cases.
On the gay side you have endemic use of meth and poppers that make all those cohorts fertile for a sexual transmission that generates a Gallo positive test.
As to the low 'infection' rate, if we look at the Padian study, the infections were overwhelmingly male to female (inserter to receiver), and they were overwhelmingly anal sex based. In the few cases where men tested positive, it was ambiguous. The non two way transmission combined with being tied to risk groups and mostly anal sex suggests that you are not dealing with an infectious agent.
I think people in porn ought to consider whether they are wasting precious sexual time on a baseless disease agent.
Edited by - Maxxx Stirner on 5/18/2015 9:55:10 PM
 
murdock
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Posted - May 18 2015 : 10:55PM
Great that you want to pick apart the terminology but your logic is still shite. You point to the Padian Study as if it is any way conclusive (it's not) and ignore the obvious flaws in the study.
How many of the couples in that study delivered children during the course of the study? If it was zero would you therefor conclude that Pregnancy isn't sexually transmitted? Because that's exactly what you're doing with HIV.
The HIV virus is present in different levels in different bodily fluids, and different tissue barriers present different layers of protection so pointing out that blood (highest concentration) to blood (no tissue barrier) transmission is much riskier than vaginal fluid (low concentration) to penile skin (good barrier) is simply noting what science has already confirmed repeatedly.
Not to mention that the majority of couples in the study wore condoms throughout (something that science has said will reduce the likelihood of transmission significantly) and the vast majority of couples wore condoms at least some of the time. So not a huge surprise that there weren't and noted transmissions in those groups. A lot of people changed their behavior after entering the study (for example practicing abstinence or refraining from anal intercourse which would both lower the likelihood of transmission)
But once again, the study simply doesn't address the known cases of non-risk sexual transmission of the disease.
Different diseases have different levels of infectiousness. Pointing out that HIV isn't as infectious as Chlamydia doesn't mean that HIV isn't sexually transmitted. It means that it isn't as infectious. It's the most basic level of logic and I'm sorry if you can't see that.
But the Padian Study in no way shape or form suggests what you say it does.
Maxxx Stirner
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Posted - May 19 2015 : 4:21AM
Whatever the flaws of the study it is one of the few long term studies that we have dealing with sero discordant couples and it greatly undermines the infectious hypothesis.The Perth Group have analyzed it well.
Not sure what point your trying to make with the pregnancy point. I used pregnancy to illustrate that not all sexual transmissions are infectious. Obviously things like family planning come into play.
Yes the anal tract offers easy entry, but the other guys can get in and infect by vaginal as well. 'HIV' needs the lowest entry barrier via the anal tract and its presumed infection rate still hovers on the level of noise. Again there is also the lack of two way movement between inserter and receiver that the data shows which is yet another blow to the infectious hypothesis. It doesn't have to be 50/50(obviously receivers on balance get infected more then inserters), but there does have to be unambiguous two way movement.
As to the condom cannard, condoms fail, are not always used throughout intercourse, their use is based on the couples word thus not entirely verrifiable and it doesn't prevent the overall blows to the HIV hypothesis. Condoms have been used in most gay porn yet there is still
numerous Gallo positives said to be in the industry. There is also interesting data from the CDC which compared discordant couples with the competing variables of treated/unprotected vs protected/untreated. Guess which variable was more likely to sexually transmit positivity. There was also another recent long term study out of Australia which undermines the infectious hypothesis.
The risk hypothesis works simply because 'HIV' has never spread outside the risk groups. The non risk sexually transmitted data that does exist tends to be ambiguous.
'HIV' it should be stressed, has never been isolated based on direct markers. It has NEVER been purified as The Perth Group have so meticulously demonstrated. This is why I say the sexual link might be based on other toxic free radicals and proteins that can make the test react. And it is essentially a non specific sensitivity test that while not meaningless (I think it can predict and indicate ill health to come), is unspecific. Again, not everything sexually transmitted is an infection.
My logic isn't the problem. What the Padian study shows(as The Perth Group so well demonstrate) is that 'HIV' theory is the problem.
Edited by - Maxxx Stirner on 5/19/2015 4:30:38 AM
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murdock
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Posted - May 19 2015 : 1:00PM
That's an outright lie.
Your premise fails at the most basic levels.
Maxxx Stirner
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Posted - May 19 2015 : 2:16PM
^Murdock, even the official story doesn't deny that 'HIV' has remained confined to the risk groups. The debate is down to whether this is due to succesful public awareness campaigns and condoms, or whether it is down to my/and The PGs explanation. I've already made the point on the overrated defense power of condoms for the latter and the former does not override things like stupid non precautionary people.
Again, HIV remaining confined to the risk groups is not debated or contraversial. Even ideologues like Nick Bennett don't deny this.
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Posted - May 19 2015 : 2:17PM
Ummm, you guys do realize that the original thread was in theory a discussion of Sheena Shaw and whether a comeback is happening and not some sort symposium on whatever drivel you're spouting?
Mister Fahrenheit All-Star Supporter
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Posted - May 19 2015 : 4:13PM
^ Yeah, the exact same thing happened in the original Sheena thread. Weird conspiracy theories about HIV and lots of judgement thrown Sheena's way. Better get it back on topic people or this thread will be closed too.
Maxxx Stirner
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Posted - May 19 2015 : 4:32PM
Will do on my part though bear in mind I'm the last person who will judge her.
murdock
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Posted - May 19 2015 : 5:03PM
What would be the most appropriate forum here to continue the digression?
I'm all for people having differing opinions, but I won't stand for the perpetuation of outright lies on a topic as serious as this.
Maxxx Stirner
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Posted - May 19 2015 : 5:32PM
^I was actually thinking of doing a broad porn and hiv thread. It's your thread or mine to start.
murdock
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Posted - May 19 2015 : 7:54PM
Off topic discussion continued here.
 
bootz
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Posted - Jun 14 2015 : 5:35AM
Whatever, I wish she would return if she can! Forgot the discussion about STDs.
She was an amazing performer.
xmotox3
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Posted - Jul 5 2015 : 2:09PM
So is Sheena Shaw HIV positive? Did she have a baby?
killbillvol69 All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jul 5 2015 : 10:21PM
^ Unless you're her doctor or you've had or you're going to have sex with her, that first question is not your business.
Unless you're the father, that second question is not your business.
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Posted - Jul 6 2015 : 12:05AM
^I don't care about the answer to the second question myself, but for fans who wonder whether or not Sheena will work again it would seem that the first question is a necessary one.
xmotox3
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Posted - Jul 6 2015 : 12:21PM
I concur. Is she back in the business or what? If she is, why isnt she getting work? If she isnt HIV positive, I might give her some work
xmotox3
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Posted - Jul 6 2015 : 12:28PM
Plus, you'd think she'd wanna clear all the rumors up. She was my favorite performer, but if what people on these forums say is true, its a very big disappointment because she was good
pat362
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Posted - Jul 6 2015 : 1:15PM
Isn't asking the question also answering it? I mean if Sheena was really back and shooting porn than wouldn't we have heard or seen new stuff with her? Since we haven't seen anything then it's safe to say that she isn't shooting porn.
xmotox3
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Posted - Jul 6 2015 : 1:31PM
Well, I guess she is available, but noone will cast her. At least thats what I read
connoisseurofporn
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Posted - Sep 28 2015 : 12:12PM
What is the present status of Sheena Shaw.Is is available for scenes or retired??Any info guys.I am huge fan.Love her.Today i was just rewachting her classics.Absolute star she is.
jeffandersonn
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Posted - Sep 28 2015 : 3:16PM
retired
 
FlacFan
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Posted - Sep 30 2015 : 12:22AM
Happy Birthday Sheena:
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Canadian_Cindy
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Posted - Oct 11 2015 : 6:29AM
Pretty much blackballed so in reality you could say she is retired, although she doesn't want to be. She is getting a bit of things here and there but very little.
She was a fantastic performer. However, there are consequences to being reckless, and she has had to face them.
In reality, many girls are far more reckless than her as they are barebacking guys form bars or guys from the gay side of the industry quite often. She happened to do it with a publicized HIV carrier and has had to take the heat.
Enjoy her back catalog as much as you can!
Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 10/11/2015 6:33:45 AM
Cuckservative
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Posted - Oct 23 2015 : 10:35PM
https://twitter.com/jonnidarkko/status/636684659326234624
JulieMasonFOREVER
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Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 8:08AM
^ That really sucks... but I really hope that Sheena is happy.
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Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 12:55PM
Her personal website has some new videos
Edited by - Cuckservative on 10/24/2015 4:13:20 PM
ultimate_sperminator
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Posted - Oct 24 2015 : 5:04PM
Sheena did the fastest ATM´s in porn that I´ve ever saw. Especially in Darkko movies. She is missed.
pacificat
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Posted - Oct 25 2015 : 3:07AM
Hey Sheena,
Watched a lot of your video scenes. Are you naturally as wild and nasty in real life sex scenes?
2bollocks
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Posted - Oct 25 2015 : 6:50AM
She doesn't have the right to come back after what she did.
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Posted - Oct 25 2015 : 9:40PM
You don't have to be Tom Cruise to know this is a Risky Business. I have no idea what stars do off the clock, but I think a high percentage fuck and I suspect there is plenty of unprotected oral and penetration. I spent a year in the music industry as a producer and I can tell you that women were willing to do anything to get backstage or party with the band. Pussy was so easy, I never accepted it. It only takes one infected freak to ruin your life.
If Sheena was completely aware of what she was doing it was wrong, but much like Mr. Marcus, once you put puss in pussy, you are a done deal. Sheena could have had about any man, I really wonder what it was about John that attracted her.
She's not a kid, so hopefully she is making better decisions these days.
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Posted - Oct 25 2015 : 9:51PM
I think it is a bit much to say that about her and not say the same about her partner; she wasn't the only one that put the industry at risk. It's old news now and she has faced the consequences, but the other half didn't which I found disappointing.
I do wish her all the wonderful best. If she can put out good scenes on her own site maybe she can make a nice living with subscriptions there.
killbillvol69 All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Oct 25 2015 : 10:13PM
^ What consequences could John face though? No more fucking on camera? Well he doesn't fuck on camera anyway so you can't do that.
No more directing? That doesn't really make sense since directing doesn't put performers at risk.
No more fucking talent off-camera? Well I certainly hope so, but how can that possibly be enforced? Have people spying on him 24-7?
In other words, what could the industry as a whole do to John that would make sense here?
connoisseurofporn
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Posted - Oct 25 2015 : 10:20PM
This is sad. Sheena was a star.I worship her.Her scenes were great.she was the ultimate slutwoman
2bollocks
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Posted - Oct 26 2015 : 6:49AM
^^Blackballing him from the industry would be warranted, but I guess he's too powerful for that. Is he still touching girls in his movies? Also I know Katie Summer tried to get him to court over something, whatever happened to that?
@ Canadian_Cindy how can you say it's too much. Have you really read about what she did? The way she put others in danger knowlingly is the ultimate sin in the industry. Once you do that you have permanently lost any sense of trust. I think people who do that should be charged with a crime.
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Posted - Oct 26 2015 : 7:25AM
^ The case against him by Katie was dropped a while back.
But that's off topic here.
Hyena
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Posted - Oct 26 2015 : 7:36AM
What did she do? (Haven't followed the whole situation)
2bollocks
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Posted - Oct 26 2015 : 9:19AM
^She had unprotected sex with John Stagliano who everybody knows has hiv. During this time she was still working in porn not letting her coworkers know, essentially putting their lives in danger. Surprisingly there is very little information available online now. Her and Stagliano did the worst thing you can do in porn. I think they should have been charged with their crimes, but atleast be banned from the industry. Sheena isn't allowed to work anymore but Stagliano still makes movies, touching the girls and penetrating them with toys. I remember we all had a heated debate about this in 2013 during the potential Katie lawsuit, and seeing what has happened I don't think anybody can still condone Stagliano's work. The touching and playing with toys, isn't that how his sexual relationship started with Sheena Shaw? How do we know his behavior in his movies isn't gonna lead to another Sheena Shaw situation? Again, IMO they should both be permanently banned from the industry to protect the performers.
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