Mike South been working overtime imploring to various directors and studios about this fact it seems
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| orgymaster Member 150 Posts 10/14 | I know the previous thread got locked because of some horrible comments, so please refrain from such acts on this one. But I am wondering what happened to her comeback, it seems that these days she's back to stripping in Minneapolis. Wish she came back after all, she's an absolute porn goddess. [Link] |
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| Canadian_Cindy Deactivated User 1102 Posts 2/15 | All I am saying really is to enjoy her body of work, because she probably is not going to be booked for many scenes going forward. Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 5/17/2015 6:45:51 PM |
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| Maxxx Stirner Deactivated User 319 Posts 11/14 | https://hivskeptic.wordpress.com/2009/06/13/porn-industry-proves-that-%E2%80%9Chiv%E2%80%9D-is-not-sexually-transmitted/ What the entire data we have on modern porn testing going back to 1998 shows is that 'hiv' positivity corresponds to risk groups more then anything. Ironically in Mike Souths comment section one person said that it's going to have to be a big name performer that tests positive one day and not a classic risk group candidate that is usually positive. That there hasn't been at least a small string going back nearly 17 years now should tell you something. My issue with HIV is that it has been a spectre that has been haunting modern sexuality for over 30 years now. It's a large reason why we don't see anything approaching a sexual revolution sequel. it has also greatly hampered porn and all that it could be. If there is any possibility that this has been a big scientific mistake(and yes people scientists make big mistakes), then people in porn should investigate the hypothesis of non existence/non causation very closely. The world that Bill Hicks talks about(when they cure AIDS)may actually be closer then you think. ^^^Cindy, we don't the full context of Shaw and Stagliano. For one thing Stagliano consistently tests undetectable, and that might have factored into her choice to have sexual relationship with the man. There is a big difference between someone who is fully treated and someone who isn't. The official position on HIV admits this as much. |
| murdock Member I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV 911 Posts 4/06 | The only thing the porn industry has proven is that HIV isn't particularly infectious (something we already knew) and that the transmission rate isn't 100% (again, something we already knew) Suggesting that an absence of HIV outbreaks in the porn industry is proof that HIV isn't sexually transmitted is no different than suggesting skydiving without a parachute can't be fatal because Joan Murray survived a fall. (despite dozens of skydiving fatalities on record) You can't point to an exception and say it is true of everything. Absence of proof is not proof of absence. http://www.logicallyfallacious.com/index.php/logical-fallacies/54-argument-from-ignorance |
| Maxxx Stirner Deactivated User 319 Posts 11/14 | There's a difference between something that is sexually transmitted and something that is infectious. Pregnancy is sexually transmitted but not infectious. I don't deny that there are certain proteins and free radicals that can be sexually transmitted from toxic seamen generating a Gallo positive test. However, this tends to be aided by toxic lifestyle and other factors. Usually someone who's Gallo positive has underlying oxidative and other stress factors that make them fertile for contraction. When you look at people like Laura Roxxx, Cameron Bay, Derrick Burts and the others they are all classic risk group cases. On the gay side you have endemic use of meth and poppers that make all those cohorts fertile for a sexual transmission that generates a Gallo positive test. As to the low 'infection' rate, if we look at the Padian study, the infections were overwhelmingly male to female (inserter to receiver), and they were overwhelmingly anal sex based. In the few cases where men tested positive, it was ambiguous. The non two way transmission combined with being tied to risk groups and mostly anal sex suggests that you are not dealing with an infectious agent. I think people in porn ought to consider whether they are wasting precious sexual time on a baseless disease agent. Edited by - Maxxx Stirner on 5/18/2015 9:55:10 PM |
| murdock Member I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV 911 Posts 4/06 | How many of the couples in that study delivered children during the course of the study? If it was zero would you therefor conclude that Pregnancy isn't sexually transmitted? Because that's exactly what you're doing with HIV. The HIV virus is present in different levels in different bodily fluids, and different tissue barriers present different layers of protection so pointing out that blood (highest concentration) to blood (no tissue barrier) transmission is much riskier than vaginal fluid (low concentration) to penile skin (good barrier) is simply noting what science has already confirmed repeatedly. Not to mention that the majority of couples in the study wore condoms throughout (something that science has said will reduce the likelihood of transmission significantly) and the vast majority of couples wore condoms at least some of the time. So not a huge surprise that there weren't and noted transmissions in those groups. A lot of people changed their behavior after entering the study (for example practicing abstinence or refraining from anal intercourse which would both lower the likelihood of transmission) But once again, the study simply doesn't address the known cases of non-risk sexual transmission of the disease. Different diseases have different levels of infectiousness. Pointing out that HIV isn't as infectious as Chlamydia doesn't mean that HIV isn't sexually transmitted. It means that it isn't as infectious. It's the most basic level of logic and I'm sorry if you can't see that. But the Padian Study in no way shape or form suggests what you say it does. |
| Maxxx Stirner Deactivated User 319 Posts 11/14 | Not sure what point your trying to make with the pregnancy point. I used pregnancy to illustrate that not all sexual transmissions are infectious. Obviously things like family planning come into play. Yes the anal tract offers easy entry, but the other guys can get in and infect by vaginal as well. 'HIV' needs the lowest entry barrier via the anal tract and its presumed infection rate still hovers on the level of noise. Again there is also the lack of two way movement between inserter and receiver that the data shows which is yet another blow to the infectious hypothesis. It doesn't have to be 50/50(obviously receivers on balance get infected more then inserters), but there does have to be unambiguous two way movement. As to the condom cannard, condoms fail, are not always used throughout intercourse, their use is based on the couples word thus not entirely verrifiable and it doesn't prevent the overall blows to the HIV hypothesis. Condoms have been used in most gay porn yet there is still numerous Gallo positives said to be in the industry. There is also interesting data from the CDC which compared discordant couples with the competing variables of treated/unprotected vs protected/untreated. Guess which variable was more likely to sexually transmit positivity. There was also another recent long term study out of Australia which undermines the infectious hypothesis. The risk hypothesis works simply because 'HIV' has never spread outside the risk groups. The non risk sexually transmitted data that does exist tends to be ambiguous. 'HIV' it should be stressed, has never been isolated based on direct markers. It has NEVER been purified as The Perth Group have so meticulously demonstrated. This is why I say the sexual link might be based on other toxic free radicals and proteins that can make the test react. And it is essentially a non specific sensitivity test that while not meaningless (I think it can predict and indicate ill health to come), is unspecific. Again, not everything sexually transmitted is an infection. My logic isn't the problem. What the Padian study shows(as The Perth Group so well demonstrate) is that 'HIV' theory is the problem. Edited by - Maxxx Stirner on 5/19/2015 4:30:38 AM Edited by - Maxxx Stirner on 5/19/2015 11:24:48 AM Edited by - Maxxx Stirner on 5/19/2015 11:27:16 AM |
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| Maxxx Stirner Deactivated User 319 Posts 11/14 | Again, HIV remaining confined to the risk groups is not debated or contraversial. Even ideologues like Nick Bennett don't deny this. |
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She was a fantastic performer. However, there are consequences to being reckless, and she has had to face them. In reality, many girls are far more reckless than her as they are barebacking guys form bars or guys from the gay side of the industry quite often. She happened to do it with a publicized HIV carrier and has had to take the heat. Enjoy her back catalog as much as you can! Edited by - Canadian_Cindy on 10/11/2015 6:33:45 AM |
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| Superdeluxe Deactivated User 211 Posts 1/14 | If Sheena was completely aware of what she was doing it was wrong, but much like Mr. Marcus, once you put puss in pussy, you are a done deal. Sheena could have had about any man, I really wonder what it was about John that attracted her. She's not a kid, so hopefully she is making better decisions these days. |
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I do wish her all the wonderful best. If she can put out good scenes on her own site maybe she can make a nice living with subscriptions there. |
| killbillvol69 All-Star Member ^Lucy Pinder 18631 Posts 4/08 | No more directing? That doesn't really make sense since directing doesn't put performers at risk. No more fucking talent off-camera? Well I certainly hope so, but how can that possibly be enforced? Have people spying on him 24-7? In other words, what could the industry as a whole do to John that would make sense here? |
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| 2bollocks Senior Member 3586 Posts 3/10 | @ Canadian_Cindy how can you say it's too much. Have you really read about what she did? The way she put others in danger knowlingly is the ultimate sin in the industry. Once you do that you have permanently lost any sense of trust. I think people who do that should be charged with a crime. |
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