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XYZ1406
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290 Posts
1/05
Posted - Jul 5 2005 : 2:54PM
Hey all,

What's the deal with some adult dvd sites not shipping items to certain states?

I sell a few dvds on adultdvdmarketplace, but have a prospect that lives in a "no-ship to" zone. He wants to pay with a USPS MO.

Thoughts?

Drew Black
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8011 Posts
9/99
Posted - Jul 5 2005 : 6:50PM
Generally I think the no-ship zones are there to protect you as a seller. I would recommend against it.
XYZ1406
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290 Posts
1/05
Posted - Jul 5 2005 : 11:44PM
Not to sound stupid, but how exactly am I protected?

Don't the disclaimers here & adultdvdmarketplace essentially say that the end user is responsible for any legal issues?

GaySatyr
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Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat!
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Posted - Jul 5 2005 : 11:52PM
Many local jurisdictions (the so-called porn no-ship zones) consider you to be the criminal pornographer if you send materials they deem pornographic into their jurisdiction. And it doesn't matter where you are. If you happen to catch their attention, they come after you.

It's sad; and stupid; but, the no-ship zones exist for a reason.

~ GaySatyr (ABB)

RLD Fiend
Member

Cincinnati, O.
665 Posts
10/04
Posted - Jul 6 2005 : 12:07AM
Well, I'm certainly no lawyer, but I live in a notorious no-ship zone and I've never had any problems.

Also you might want to consider what the customer is buying; a Wicked video or a Max Hardcore Euro-version?

 
AlexPanzer
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Posted - Jul 6 2005 : 12:29AM
Will they go after criminal pornographers from Iraq?
Drew Black
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Posted - Jul 6 2005 : 2:02AM
No. Iraqi pornographers are exempt from prosecution.
AlexPanzer
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Posted - Jul 6 2005 : 7:23AM
How about New Zealand and Portugese ones?
GaySatyr
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Posted - Jul 6 2005 : 8:22AM
Alex, they'll prosecute anyone they can get their hands on -- especially if they think it will get them a headline or a vote among the slime-ball fundies who prop them up.

Under most conditions, purveyors from other countries are probably out of reach; however, companies -- and even individuals -- in the USA are quite easily ensnared. Better safe than sorry.

~ GaySatyr (ABB)

XYZ1406
Member

290 Posts
1/05
Posted - Jul 6 2005 : 9:07AM
I realize that adultdvdempire may have the most comprehensive no-ship list. Does anyone know where I can view these state / local laws? Example: Indianapolis is on the no-ship list. Where can I see that law?
Drew Black
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Posted - Jul 6 2005 : 9:21AM
There isn't a single place where you can view all local laws. Besides, the "law" isn't really legislation. It's the result of a court decision that defined the term community standards . If the community might have a problem with the material, as most dry counties and bible belt areas would, then it's just best not to ship to them.


willywilly
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2/05
Posted - Jul 6 2005 : 2:19PM
I wonder what could happen if the seller did not put his real return address on the package?

Even better, put the buyers address as the return address - then what? Wouldn't that put all the risk on the buyer?

XYZ1406
Member

290 Posts
1/05
Posted - Jul 6 2005 : 2:26PM
Playing the part of "chicken little" (scared of everything)...

after what willywilly said, I think it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to think there might be some law enforcement people on this board who live in no-ship to areas just to trap & make $$ off of honest, no harm intended sellers/traders here...

Drew Black
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Posted - Jul 6 2005 : 3:52PM
Ship via UPS and you should be OK. Sure, it costs more but it's not used by Postal Inspectors for entrapment purposes. FedEx is not safe though. They turn over shit to law enforcement all the time.
XYZ1406
Member

290 Posts
1/05
Posted - Jul 6 2005 : 4:01PM
How would FedEx know what to turn over to law enforcement without opening it?
 
Drew Black
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Posted - Jul 11 2005 : 9:10PM
Do a few Google searches on FedEx and law enforcement. FedEx has better package scanners than the USPS does. They routinely initiate law enforcement inquiries and work closely with the FBI.
Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jul 11 2005 : 11:31PM
What makes you so sure that someone who wants to pay with a USPS Money Order from a "no-ship zone" is not a USPS Postal Inspector?

The ability to make a couple of bucks is not worth the risk.

TheLoneGunman
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400 Posts
10/03
Posted - Jul 16 2005 : 11:34AM
Those "non ship" zones basically have to do with the likelyhood of an adult-related proscecution coming up in that area if a website or store ships product there. That's why you'll have trouble finding an adult retailer who will ship to the most conservative states like Utah, or cities where a lot of prosecutions have taken place, like Cincinatti, Ohio (ask Larry Flynt!).

CG_Gurl80
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Sexy Bitches
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Posted - Jul 16 2005 : 3:16PM
I would concur with this statement. Better safe than sorry, especially if you are hesistant to begin with.
loverboy
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64 Posts
7/05
Posted - Jul 27 2005 : 2:31PM
Living in one of these zones is quite bizarre, as sometimes shippers won't send what I can rent at either of two stores down the road! I understand when shippers are anxious, but the whole thing really is ridiculous as the stuff is available locally.....at a much more premium price however:(
RLD Fiend
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Cincinnati, O.
665 Posts
10/04
Posted - Jul 27 2005 : 2:44PM
A little different here... They won't ship to my county, which is basically "dry" of any adult entertainment, but I can go over the county line and get JM, Extreme Associates, or anything else.

I can't believe that the (rural) counties surrounding Cincinnati are less likely to prosecute for obscenity than the metropolitan Hamilton County. Perhaps the spectre of the Larry Flynt trials still scare retailers away.

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infimum
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189 Posts
3/04
Posted - Jul 27 2005 : 3:38PM
It's just a matter of how willing sellers are to take chances. This does not coincide with geographical boundaries.
Because of deferences in the infrastructure of regulations and legal systems between small cities and big cities.
Drew Black
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Posted - Jul 28 2005 : 9:01AM
Most internet retailers happen to base their no-ship zone list on zip codes. Zip codes tend to be synonymous with geographic regions.

infimum
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189 Posts
3/04
Posted - Jul 28 2005 : 11:50AM
What I meant was that just because some geographic region is listed as a no-ship zone by some internet retailer, this doesn't mean that there is no local smut shop in that region that is willing to take chances.
Dick Fittswell
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near Houston, TX
300 Posts
1/02
Posted - Jul 28 2005 : 11:57AM
i live in TX, just south of Houston. Empire will ship to me, I'm not in Houston or one of the zip codes listed as non ship to, but I can no longer buy on adultdvdmarketplace, they have a shipping ban on the whole state of TX, which really sucks. I also don't get it, that Houston would be more likely to prosecute then one of the smaller surrounding cities/towns. doesn't make sense to me, just leave us alone and let us watch buy and rent our porn. There's planty of bricjk and morter stores in houston, so it's really strange
 
TheLoneGunman
Member

400 Posts
10/03
Posted - Jul 28 2005 : 3:01PM
These might just be a few reasons why sites are wary about shipping to Texas:

Case 1

Case 2

Case 3

Case 4

...and this is just since 2004.

Dick Fittswell
Member

near Houston, TX
300 Posts
1/02
Posted - Jul 28 2005 : 5:19PM
I understand that, but what i don't get it it's only certain places they won't ship to in the state. I understand places not wanting to ship to the entire state, but I can get places shipped to my house, yet my friend 5 mins away in Houston can't get things from the place I can. Just strange to me. I just wish the government would keep out of this business, and let me watch whatever I want to



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