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spesedy
Member

Germany
238 Posts
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Posted - Dec 17 2000 : 8:21AM
Hi everybody,

I've never ordered a toy, but I've read some reviews here on ADT and took a look at the mentioned stores which brought up some questions. I hope you can help me.

1.
The reviewer of the fleshlight says it's the "Fleshlight 2". I couldn't find the name "Fleshlight 2" anywhere on any store. So is it really a newer version ? I'm interested in it because the first Fleshligt review sounded quite average to me, while the second one was quite obviously a thumbs up.

2.
The ToyChest-Website says this device needs 2 Batteries. Since no other website says batteries are needed for that, maybe it's just a mistake, or does the ToyChest eventually have a newer version which really uses Batteries ?

3.
I've heard some people say that the openings of this device aren't important because in the inside it's certainly all the same. On the ToyChest website, when clicking on the mouth-version, they say that the texture and muscular structure of a mouth has been rebuilt exactly. So there seems to be quite some big difference, doesn't it ?

4.
Anybody know if the ToyChest possibly ships internationally ? Taking a look at the order form it seems they only ship to the US which is bad since they've got great prices :-(
What's the best store or possibility to order for international shipment ?

5.
I've come across three big Trademarks. These are 'Cyberskin', 'Futurotic' and 'Realistic'.
All of them state to be more realistic than anything else.
On the other hand I think items like the Fleshlight don't even use one of those materials and state to be the real thing as well. Anybody knows the difference between all these materials ? Which one does really feel real. Is there a material which is more real than the others or are they generally all the same ?

6.
Concerning lubes I've heard that some of them can destroy the material. On the other hand sometimes you should even use some powder to keep the device in order. Unfortunately on the Store-Websites they don't always exactly say which lube is appropriate for that device. Although I read the Lube-Review from - I guess - Dumblonde, I'd really appreciate a little more clarification on that subject.

I hope some of you PROs can answer my questions.
Thanks a lot,

Spesedy

dumblonde
Senior Member

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Posted - Dec 17 2000 : 12:34PM
Spesedy - thanks for your inquiries, I'll try to answer the ones I can.
All these different materials, like Cyberskin, etc. vs. all the different lubes, is VERY confusing, and I'm working on a compilation list of their properties as we speak, though it's not easy finding information on some. This much I know:
The Fleshlight 2 apparently is the "new & improved" model of the original, and is made purely of silicone (no latex), so oil-based lubes such as baby oil can be used safely with this new one, as well as water based.
No batteries are involved, that must have been a mistake. Here's a link to their website fleshlight where they do sell them directly, although for $59.00 The only lube that CANNOT be used is any containing silicone, oddly enough, because the two silicones will bind together and cause a meltdown of sorts. Eros, ID Millennium, & Wet Platinum are all silicone lubes.
Talcum powder of any kind is fine for any toy,
Cyberskin is silicone, so the above applies here too, Futurotic seems to be similar, just a different name, and probably is silicone as well, although I haven't confirmed this.
Anything made of silicone tends to be more expensive.
Realistic seems to be more of a descriptive name coined by Doc Johnsons, and I have asked that company for clarification, will post as soon as I hear. Hope this helps, I'm sure others can help you too. take care...DB
TigerDragon
Member

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Posted - Dec 17 2000 : 2:10PM
spesedy to answer your questions:

1. Fleshlight 2 is just an improved version of the original. As Miss Blonde pointed out. I got mine from the toychest. It is not listed as Felshlight 2, just has the name fleshlight.

2. No batteries needed. Unless you purchase an egg to use with it.

3. The openings are not of the utmost importance. IF you feel strange putting your cock in an ass shaped opening then purchase something else.
Although if you "tease" your cock with the opening of the device then the shape of the lips vs the vaginal opening might play a small role.

4. You can email and ask them.

5. I have a few cyberskin devices and one fleshlight.
Which feels more realistic? The fleshlight does. I have used a cyberskin device and the fleshlight at the same time. It is noticable. The fleshlight holds heat better than the cyberskin devices. The fleshlight to me feels more like a warm mouth. Especially when its warm and you are using skin lotion. The cyberskin it feels like you are rubbing between soft flesh like butt checks or large breasts. But it does not hold heat very well. So it does not give that "human warmth" feeling.

6. You can use any lube with these two things. Just make sure you wash it then after it air dries apply some talc power. I use a scented baby power on mine. It helps keep its soft skin like feeling.

Hope this helps.

TigerDragon

spesedy
Member

Germany
238 Posts
8/00
Posted - Dec 17 2000 : 2:45PM
Hi, thanks for your replies, they already helped me a lot.

dumbblonde:
Glad to hear I'm not the only confused person when it comes to lubes and stuff ;)
I already knew that silicone-lube-thing from reading your review, but it's hard to find out which device is made out of which material when the company describes it as 'Hyper Super Mega Realistic Flesh (TM)'.
Who'd know that this device is made of silicone ? :)
I wish you good luck for finding all the information you need for compiling your Lube-list, and I'm looking forward to it.

TigerDragon:
I just obeyed to hint #4 and e-mailed them about international shipment. I hope it's possible somehow.
Thanks for the cyberskin - fleshlight comparison. I guess now I know which one I might want to pick up some time ;)

spesedy
Member

Germany
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Posted - Dec 18 2000 : 6:48AM
Update:
-------

After receiving the reply from The ToyChest, I sadly have to say that they definitely don't ship outside the US at the moment. :-(

Well... Will have to take a look somewhere else then.

 
-lunacy-
Senior Member

1081 Posts
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Posted - Dec 18 2000 : 1:25PM
I did the research on this for another forum member-maybe this will help in your search...

Re: International Shipping-

Good Vibrations says ;
For overseas orders, add $20 for orders up to $100 in value, 25% of order total for orders over $100. Any taxes, tariffs or duties levied must be paid by the recipient of the order; we will not bill you for any of these charges.

Xandria says ;
Sorry, not available to P.O. Boxes, Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands or International destinations.

Luvtoys says ;
1. $100 min order.
2. We do not ship to international P.O. Boxes.
3. We must have a Phone# for Federal Express.
4. E-mail Return Address
Please be advised we are not responsible for your countrys customs policy, if adult material is acceptable there should not be any problems. If the order gets confiscated, returned, destroyed by customs you will charged for all costs incurred to us.

** Additional shipping charges **
1. Due to the size and weight of the following items, there may be additional charges added.
(Dolls,Vibrating Vagina's,Lubricant's Over 4oz,Penis Pumps,Giant Rubber Dongs). If additional charges are added you be advised by e-mail.
2. Some remote areas may have a additional surcharge by Federal Express, we will notify by e-mail if needed.
*It appears their shipping charges have a chart, prices range between $25 and $100.*

The Stockroom says ;
For orders outside the USA, we ship via United States Postal Service Air Mail. We charge whatever the Postal Service charges us, which depends on the weight of the package, plus $2.50 for handling. For example, Europe is approximately $2 - $5 per pound. If you would like to receive a shipping quote for a prospective order, email us. (Please include your address and the items you wish to purchase.) info@stockroom.com

spesedy
Member

Germany
238 Posts
8/00
Posted - Dec 19 2000 : 8:42AM
Hi again,

@lunacy
Thanks for that list. Unfortunately it seems that ordering toys and stuff from outside the US is quite difficult. $100 min. order + P&P... Wow, that's much. Other stores don't even ship internationally, and others do but don't carry the products I'm interested in :} (sigh)

@all
Now one weird thing happened to me, making me even more uncertain about that fleshlight-thing :
Since I found it at Adam&Eve (although it's more expensive than at the ToyChest), and they're also willing to ship internationally, I wrote their customer-support an email concerning shipment and product-info.
I'm still concerned about the naming convention 'Fleshlight' and 'Fleshlight 2' which appeared in the reviews although I haven't found a store yet which explicitly claims to sell the 2nd version, not even www.fleshlight.com. So I asked A&E if they knew about different versions, and which one they were offering. The answer was 'At the moment we don't offer the Fleshlight 2'.

Now that really irritates me. They got the same pictures on their site as any other site but claim they don't sell the newer version. Now either they are misinformed about that product and are selling the second version without knowing about the first, or they're really selling the first version as maybe many other stores do. Two other irritating points for me are :

a) the colour of the case which from store to store seems to vary between black, white and silver and also makes the impression of different versions being sold.

b) different product data like length of the sleeve which varies from 8" to 11" and other names for the material (some simply say it's silicone, some say it's rubber [although they might MEAN silicone] and some call it that gross name like 'Super duper real feel' or something like that which can also be found on the manufacturer's homepage.

So, since most of the stores don't seem to know what exactly they are selling, I'm asking again for your help to clarify that chaos a bit for me.

Would be really nice :)

Thank you.

TigerDragon
Member

108 Posts
11/00
Posted - Dec 19 2000 : 9:29AM
spesedy

Fleshlight 2

This is the URL that was on my Box of the Fleshlight 2.
I would scan you the picutre of the box, but I had to get rid of it.

There is also a sticker on the top lid of the Fleshlight. But after washing it fades away and falls off.
As you can see from the site they show/Have the Fleshlight 2.

They also give it that "gross" name you like so much.


It also appears they sell other toys as well.

I hope this answers your question.

TigerDragon

dumblonde
Senior Member

2352 Posts
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Posted - Dec 19 2000 : 10:41AM
thanks Tiger, for that link, which appears to be a totally different one, and still no real information on what the damn thing is made of. You would think a company selling $60. 'toys' would be a little more descriptive, it's no wonder the online stores are not sure, either.
It seems they too are getting into the "torso sex" biz, for $1900.00, you can be put on a "waiting list" for a silicone torso with one bunghole and an 18" dick! Yes, that's not a typo.
WTF!!!! Axe murderers Special!

At any rate, I have also emailed them for clarification on this matter, hang in there Spesedy.

spesedy
Member

Germany
238 Posts
8/00
Posted - Dec 19 2000 : 10:44AM
@TigerDragon

Thanks a lot for that link. It really enLightened me :)
Unfortunately their stuff is really expensive and they
don't seem to use secure CC-number transmission :-o
I won't buy anywhere with my CC-number floating around the whole net in plaintext.

Since you got yours from the ToyChest without them explicitly stating it's the 2nd version, I hope the other stores sell the second version as well without knowing about that version-confusion themselves and simply calling it 'Fleshlight'.

So I've written another mail to A&E asking if it's possible to clarify that. I hope I'll know more tomorrow.

@dumblonde

Hehe, I've looked at these torso's, too, and I'm not sure if it would necessarily be a turn-on for me to have a dismembered corpse lying in front of me :)
Thanks for mailing them. I hope we can get a clearer view regarding that confusion after combining the info from A&E and that store.

Edited by - spesedy on Dec 19 2000

TigerDragon
Member

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Posted - Dec 19 2000 : 3:04PM
I do not want to reveal to much about myself.
But as a chemist I can tell you the fleshlight is using a higher grade of silicone than the cyberskin.
The cyberskin seems to be a mixture of silicone and another synthetic polymer (plastic).

TigerDragon

dumblonde
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Posted - Dec 20 2000 : 10:43AM
Spesedy - I received a prompt reply from fleshlight here:

The original Fleshlight had a slick canal. After thousands had
been sold, customer feedback indicated that a rolling and spiraling
canal would possibly be more pleasurable.After proto typing and testing,
we found that they were right
We than introduced the Fleshlight 2 featuring the new "Wonder wave
Internal design" We have sold 30 thousand since and thanks to our
customers input, (no pun intended) the Fleshlight has improved. The
originals are no longer available.
We have sold over 100,000 and the Fleshlight is considered the best
male sex toy in the world.
E-mail back if I can be of any further
assistance. Steve.


So, that clears that bit of confusion up - now I emailed him back to confirm an original inquiry as to whether the "RealFeel" skin was 100% silicone or what? You'd think I was asking for state secrets! lol ;) Still no reply from Doc Johnson's, ggrrrrr
Happy holidays spesedy, & we'll keep you posted!.......DB

sonic
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1178 Posts
12/99
Posted - Dec 20 2000 : 11:00AM
: "dumblonde, there is something I need to tell you. I am your lost dildo."

Jedi: "dumblonde..UUUuuuuse the tip..Uuuuussse the tip."

dumblonde
Senior Member

2352 Posts
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Posted - Dec 20 2000 : 12:57PM
LOL ;)
So, THAT's why you ran off! Yes, I've learned to Use The Tip,
not The Force..mmmm much better!
Come back to me, please! No more FORCED sex, I promise!
spesedy
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Germany
238 Posts
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Posted - Dec 20 2000 : 3:17PM
dumblonde:

Coooool !!! Thanks for the info. I didn't think they'd reply that quickly. So I guess the fleshlights that are available at the stores at the moment are the new versions. Just had to place an order at A&E ;)

But THEN there were other problems ! (grrrrrr)

Some days ago I had e-mail contact to Bill from the A&E customer service. He said they couldn't ship videos and magazines and stuff like that to Germany because of customs. On the other hand toys were no problem (I have to admit I was a bit astonished since it has never been a problem for any other stores I ordered from).
But when placing the order their orderform forced me to choose one free video which I didn't want because I knew they wouldn't ship my order if it contained a video.
So after placing my order I wrote another mail to their customer support asking them to remove that video from my order to make sure the order would get through custom.

What I just got was a reply saying that they couldn't send videos to Germany, that they were sorry for that and that my credit-card hadn't been billed.

Well... Somehow that wasn't quite the answer I had expected. Maybe they didn't read my e-mail properly ? :-o
So I just wrote another e-mail back asking for clarification what that e-mail meant. :)

Pffffffffffffffft... I guess I'm never gonna get such a device :}

 
dumblonde
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Posted - Dec 20 2000 : 3:56PM
Spesedy - I know what you're going thru, it seems with everything being computer-generated, it's harder for a special request to be noticed. Hopefully, an actual human will read your email & respond. If not, let us know - You WILL get your toy, one way or another! lol


Quote TigerDragon: " I do not want to reveal to much about myself."
I think it's a little late.

sonic
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1178 Posts
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Posted - Dec 20 2000 : 4:53PM
dumblonde..what are you saying!?! That I can dodge bullets?


Edited by - sonic on Dec 20 2000

spesedy
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Germany
238 Posts
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Posted - Dec 21 2000 : 8:03AM
@dumblonde
Thanks for the encouraging words. I'll keep you up-to-date. Still waiting for a reply from A&E. I wonder what they'll tell me about their last reply which didn't have anything to do with my question :)
I also wonder what exactly you meant by placing that LOL after the last sentence ;)

@sonic
Cool drawing !
Could it be that you have been a fan of Temptress for a VERY VERY long time ? :-)

dumblonde
Senior Member

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Posted - Dec 21 2000 : 10:57AM
spesedy - I received another email from fleshlight concerning the material used, here:

Hello again, Our material is made of high levels of mineral oil and polymers. Water base personal lubricant is the only lube that should be used. E-mail back if necessary, Steve "Steve A. Shubin" <shubinsr@concentric.net>

notice he still didn't call it silicone? Yet, TigerDragon said that an insert stated it was OK to use oil-based.GRRR!!
Oh, and LOL just means 'laughing out loud', sorry about that. I'll try emailing A&E, and give them your email address, OK? take care...DB

spesedy
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Germany
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Posted - Dec 21 2000 : 5:39PM
Hi DB,

Wow. I never thought it could be that difficult to get some product information on the net.
You want to give A&E my email-address ? :-o
They got my email address, but they still haven't answered my last mail. Maybe they need some time themselves to figure out what their reply meant ;)
I'm also still waiting for a reply on the mail I sent them asking for clarification about the version-number- and material-confusion. I asked them to ask the manufacturer if they were not sure what exactly they are offering. This has been some days ago, but either they haven't found out the answer yet, or they thought my mail was annoying. Don't know. I'm still waiting patiently. The most annoying fact for me is that I don't know if they are processing my order or if they really canceled it.

Concerning the LOL : It was just a joke referring to where and why you placed it :)
Since I'm on the net since 1993 I knew what it meant. Was just funny to read, but thanks for the explanation ;)

Oh, and btw: Thanks a lot for your great help on figuring things out, although I've got the strange feeling you're interested in it, too ;)

dumblonde
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2352 Posts
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Posted - Dec 22 2000 : 2:16PM
Spesedy - I called Adam & Eve about the problem you were having, and they said when you get to the screen where you choose your free video, to click '1'. Apparently, this will choose an alternate freebie, like lube or something, rather than a video, and your order should go through.
Don't worry about double-ordering, your complete order was canceled before. The gal I talked to, Taylor, was very helpful, and she said to be sure to call back if any more problems. I don't know if you can call from Europe, but they do have a toll free number 1-800-293-4654. If not, let me know & I'll call her back. Good luck! DB
spesedy
Member

Germany
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Posted - Dec 22 2000 : 3:52PM
Dumblonde - Thanks very much for the great help.
I actually ordered again at A&E after reading your reply, although the confusion is perfect now.
There is no '1' to click on where I'm asked to choose a free video. On the other hand I found out how to get around this. One of the offered items is NO video but a toy. It's called Virtual Virgin. I just always thought it was a video since it was listed under the column 'choose your free video'. Hmmmmmmmm...
Although quite irritating, that usually would be great news. But then I took a look at the last order I had placed (I had saved the receipt page on my HD). I actually chose that Virtual Virgin at my last order without knowing it's a toy. So everything should have been ok, and nobody should have had a reason to cancel my order. I also never got a cancelation receipt, just the message that it was impossible to ship videos to Germany, that they're sorry about that situation and that my credit card wasn't billed.

So I'm not that sure about an eventual double-order. I also would have liked to get a reply in my mail from them instead of a nice person, who was kind enough to call them, telling me what to do.
I'm also not sure about if it's possible to call them from here. The call might even cost quite some money although it's a toll-free number in the US. I don't know about that, but I don't want to make you any more work, so I guess I'll write another mail to their customer support (sigh).

So thanks very much again and I'm keeping you up-to-date :}

Spesedy


Update
-------

I just received a mail from A&E, and I already thought 'Wow... This time they were fast.' But it wasn't a reply on the mail I wrote about an hour ago but an order status report telling me that the items I ordered a few days ago have been shipped yesterday. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry... I needed that :)
In my last mail I told them to cancel my second order in case the first wasn't canceled. I hope they'll do so and I won't have any other problems. I can already see me sitting in my room surrounded by toys piling up around me, trying to cancel orders :] Ahem... Weird imagination...

So again : thank you DB, and you seem to have been right. I'm gonna receive my order one way or another ;)

Edited by - spesedy on Dec 22 2000

spesedy
Member

Germany
238 Posts
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Posted - Dec 23 2000 : 5:27PM
Confusion Marathon - next round.

You thought it was over ? You that that was the end ? You thought I had already discovered all the atrocities of online-shopping ? You thought everything was fine now ?

Well...

You're MISTAKEN :))))

I just got an email from Tony from A&E customer-support. He was very friendly. But his mail was pushing my confusion to the top when he told me that my 2 orders have already been shipped, and that I should write something like 'return to sender' on the one package I didn't want and send it back.
Of course I can do that (and I'm going to if there's no other possibility), but I simply can't imagine that 2 orders should have been shipped.

I only got one shipping confirmation referring to my order from 12/20. That was my original order. My second order was just placed today (12/23) and nearly immediately canceled via email. I haven't placed any other orders at A&E yet.
I simply can't imagine that the second order has already been processed and shipped in less than a day. And since I didn't get any shipping confirmation I'm really not sure what to think about it. I guess it's another mistake or misunderstanding (sigh).
I already wrote another mail to their customer-support asking for a re-check of my shipped orders.

Oh, btw: I'm not writing this to throw discredit upon A&E or anybody else. After all my mails I'm convinced they've got some cool, friendly and helpful staff there. I just wanted to share this adventure which shows what a few misunderstandings and mistakes can do, and I actually start to get kind of amused.

If it wasn't for Dumblondes moral and real support, I think I had already jumped out of my window :]

I'm excited how this will go on.

Oh, and of course :

Merry X-mas and a happy new year to all people at ADT.

dumblonde
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Posted - Dec 25 2000 : 7:29PM
Spesedy - I'm so glad you can see the comedy in this, and I can't wait to hear what happens next! You know, maybe it's good that two packages are on the way - because the way things are going, I'm sure that something else is bound to happen, as we still have to clear customs, you never know.
It is no trouble at all for me to call them, and I love a challenge, so don't hesitate if you need me to do so. It is a learning experience for me as
well. By all means, keep us posted! take care........DB
spesedy
Member

Germany
238 Posts
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Posted - Dec 26 2000 : 1:10PM
Update:
I just received another email from Tony at A&E.
Somehow I've got the feeling that mailorder-companies put the most needed answers on function keys :)
In my last mail I asked for a re-check of my account, and I wanted to know which orders were sent out, what they contained, when they were ordered and when they were shipped and why I only got 1 Shipping confirmation.
The answer seemed to have been cut&pasted from the former reply and said that 2 orders were shipped but that I could write 'Return to sender' on one package and send it back.
Wow... That answer wasn't as extensive as I had expected, but I guess I can send them another mail asking for a more detailed mail and will certainly get the same reply :)
So it looks I can't do anything but wait.
Of course... If you - DB - really don't have a problem with calling them I'd really appreciate it. :)
Maybe you could find out how they managed to process and ship 1 of my two orders in less than a day and why I never got a shipping confirmation for that second order. I still can't imagine them having shipped the two orders since I canceled the second order only a very short time after placing it. The answer I got the same day told me it was already shipped. Then A&E have to be the fastest online store in this galaxy.
They also told me I'd get a refund once they'd receive the one package back. So they obviously already billed my creditcard, and without even having gotten a shipping confirmation for the second order it's quite a bad feeling. I wonder what to do if I only receive one package but they billed my cc twice waiting for me to send back one package I never got. Puuuuuuuuuuh... Horrible imagination :[
Edited by - spesedy on Dec 26 2000
Edited by - Janitor on 4/3/2013 7:49:04 AM
 
spesedy
Member

Germany
238 Posts
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Posted - Dec 27 2000 : 4:01AM
Hi again...

Now THAT'S it ! :-
As Dumblonde said I was indeed seeing the comedy behind all this. Today I got a mail from A&E which made me quite angry though. Wow... Didn't even think that was possible.

Short summary of the situation :

After writing a mail to A&E customer support asking for toy shipping to Germany they replied that toys were no problem, although they couldn't send videos and magazines to Germany.
I placed a toy-order on 12/20 and after sending a mail to customer-support asking for an order status I got a mail telling me they were sorry but they couldn't send videos, magazines or catalogs to Germany and that my credit card hadn't been billed. Dumblonde also called their hotline and some lady called Taylor told her my order was canceled and I should re-order.
So I ordered again on 12/23. Shortly after I had placed that order I received a shipping confirmation referring to my order from 12/20. I immediately wrote a mail to the customer-support explaining the situation and asking them to cancel my second order (only a few hours after having placed it). The same day (still the 23rd) I got a reply that my two orders had already been shipped. I knew this couldn't be and asked for a detailed re-check of my orders and which orders were shipped when, when I had placed them and what they contained, and I told them that I don't think that second order had already been shipped since it was only some hours after having placed it. To my surprise I didn't get a detailed reply but only a copy&paste-version from the former reply telling me that my two orders had already been shipped.

That we already knew.
Now comes the news.

I just got another mail with a shipping notification stating my second order was shipped yesterday.

I was SOOOOOOO annoyed after having read that mail that I sent them another mail back making clear that I was annoyed and disappointed about the whole procedure and about the fact that my credit card was going to be billed twice and I was going to have the trouble to send the order back hoping it arrives safely so I was able to get a refund some time. And all that after immediately canceling my order and asking for a re-check several times always getting the reply my order had already been shipped and couldn't be canceled.

Now I'm really angry. I guess I have to count slowly to 100.

sonic
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Posted - Dec 27 2000 : 9:05AM
Perhaps..I think so. She was..the ORALcle.
dumblonde
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Posted - Dec 27 2000 : 1:58PM
spesedy - 98-99-100! Oh man, the nightmare continues, huh? Sounds like they don't actually read their emails, as is true with so many companies. For years a mail order Co., I think A & E is probably not yet up to speed with online part of things, although supposedly they have an internet 'team'.
If the method of shipping requires your signature upon receipt, when the second one arrives, you need only to refuse acceptance, ie: return to sender.
If it just arrives in your mail, there should be some self-addressed shipping labels included. In the paperwork there's a place to write - Reason For Return: well, depending on your mood at the time, I don't think there's enough space here, heh heh.
If it makes you feel any better, I actually sent back a USED toy that I wasn't happy with, and did receive a full refund - although A & E is the only place I know that has this policy, I beg you, Spesedy, please don't do what I know
you're thinking!
Well, let's hope that the worst is over - I'm sure the packages are insured each way, and I'm confident that you will be credited, they are very good that way.
Without knowing your actual name, there's not much to be gained by calling them, at any rate it sounds like they've already flown the coop.
So, what's next? A couple of stern looking German customs agents come knocking on your door (shudder), each holding one of your toys? Could make a good television movie...Spesedy is handcuffed, taken to "headquarters" and interrogated for hours by an officer resembling Heinrich
Himmler with dental tools.
Will await your update!
spesedy
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Germany
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Posted - Dec 27 2000 : 3:00PM
@sonic:

Hehe... At least SOMETHING amusing in this thread :)

@dumblonde:

You're right. It happens quite often to me. Somehow I got the feeling some customer-supports (not necessarily of DVD-Mailorder companies but in general) can't handle more than one question at once. E.g. When I ask 4 questions, one of the following will happen :

a) the first question gets answered
b) the last question gets answered
c) they send a standard answer for a question I didn't ask
d) no question gets answered, but they tell me how much they appreciate me being their customer

I guess they have to work on their multitasking capabilities a bit.

*g*
That's possible. Maybe as reason for return I'll write something like 'Please take a look at that little book I wrote and sent back with this order'.

Receiving packages here depends : Sometimes the postman will try to fit the largest package into a little postbox by folding it. Other times he'll write a little note telling me to pick up the package at the post office. Again other times he's just lazy and rings up a neighbour to receive the package. And last but not least he may just lay it on the ground in front of the door. To me it's a mystery that not every second order vanishes somehow.

Maybe I'm lucky... Once...

Hehehe... *evilgrin*... Oh Dumblonde, you're so BAD ! (if you really thought what I was thinking ;))
Certainly... You're right. Of course now that I know they shipped the second order calling them up won't change anything. Well... Maybe something had changed if I had called them up directly after receiving their latest mail. They would have run down the street trying to catch the post-car to get the package back ;)

Referring to hoping that the worst is over :

I'm somehow attracting these things.
Well... Or they are attracted to me... depends on the point of view.

You read my thread in the Shopping forum when I was wondering why an originally sealed fivestar-dvd-box was empty ? They said that was extremely rare. And... well... It was my first order at fivestar. So much about my bad luck. At least their service was very good with somebody mailing me asking if I'd like to receive a free DVD for my trouble. That's an exceptional and generous handling which will certainly make me come back.

Oh... And you remember the thread where I wrote that I had received an async Elegant-Angel-DVD from ADN ?
They told me that all the other copies they had on stock were totally ok, so this had to be quite unique. Maybe a left-over from an earlier print.

Then I sent it back and they told me they had never received it. There was my bad luck again.
Somehow everything clarified at a later time and they promised me to send a replacement. It wasn't in stock though. Well... I had to wait for another month before it came in again.
Just today I received my replacement. After opening the package I noticed that they had accidentally sent an earlier movie from the same series which I already had.
I just wrote them a mail. We'll see how it works out.

Oh... and btw:
Today I bought an electric toothbrush :-)
The box was originally sealed from the manufacturer and when I was at home and opened it I noticed that the manual was showing a part I couldn't find in the box. I thought I was going nuts trying to get this thing to work. Fortunately a friend of mine also bought one himself and his box contained the part I was looking for. I called the store where I bought it and they told me 'Well... That's extremely rare. To be honest that's the first time one part was missing.' Remember that from somewhere ? ;)

Dumblonde - I get the feeling you've been watching too many bad films lately :)
Yep... I'll certainly keep you updated. I think I just have to talk about it with someone. Keeping that for myself would increase my suicidal tendencies dangerously.
dumblonde
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Posted - Dec 28 2000 : 5:07PM
Spesedy - You're right, I see too many old movies, but I love 'em. As this is a porn site, I made a revision in my script:

Two stern looking German customs agents, each holding a package, knock on Spesedy's door. Spesedy, expecting a special delivery from the mailman, opens the door and is surprised to see the agents, dressed in standard issue uniform of black leather, fishnet stockings & high heels.
Quickly overtaking the surprised young man, they hustle him inside and handcuff him, but decide against taking him to headquarters.
Certain that the innocent looking flashlights contain something far more sinister, they question him closely - very closely.
"So Spesedy...why is it these "flashlights" contain no batteries, or even have room for batteries? Why do you need two of these? What is this pink stuff, and I warn you - do not lie, as we have our drug lab doing some testing right now!"
Spesedy starts to sweat, but not out of fear - if only the agents had worn some panties, damnit! The bulge in his pants make him look guilty, of something!
"You know, we have ways of making you talk!" says one, as she
swings one leg over his head, and stradles him 'reverse cowgirl style'.
BOING!!! "Please, I don't know what the pink stuff is, I swear! I tried to find out too, but it is some kind top-secret material! They are toys, sleeves, you know -
for my dick!"
"VAT? You have TWO dicks??? You feel plenty big Spesedy,
but I'm feeling one big one only! Come on, don't bullshit us, baby. The truth now! Or are we going to have to torture
you?"
Spesedy, feeling his dick already being tortured by her rocking back & forth on it, feels there's only one thing to do.........to be continued.......


Edited by - dumblonde on Dec 28 2000

spesedy
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Posted - Dec 28 2000 : 7:29PM
Ahmmmm... Well... (cough)...
So... Ahmm... (spesedy wiping off the sweat of his face)...
I guess these are *female* agents ? :]

Well... Ahemmm... (stutter)...
I have to admit the beginning sounds promising. :>

So why don't you just... well... (blush) CONTINUE ? :)

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Posted - Dec 29 2000 : 2:27PM
Spesedy

Which electric toothbrush you have? My wife gave me one for Christmas (what a surprise!! I love her. ) called the Cybersonic . It's awesome! For my teeth that is.

spesedy
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Posted - Dec 29 2000 : 3:47PM
@sonic

What a great idea from your wife. Brushing teeth is important. That shows how much she loves you :->
Don't think the name is useful for you since it's a German one (of course ;)) It's called something like 'Braun Oral B Plaque Control' *g*
It contained a few brushes with coloured rings, so the whole family could use it without mistakenly grab someone else's brush.
I won't risk it though and am using it alone ;)
(Un)fortunately it's rather quick and strong. When I turned it on and started using it the whole world looked like an encrypted pay-tv picture. :)

@dumblonde

First a little update on my shopping situation :)
It's short :
Nothing happened. Package not there yet. A&E haven't answered my mail.

Concerning your story : Ahem...
Somehow I start to think about ordering a few more of these things. :)
I'd certainly play that role in a movie. Of course only if it was in an artistic context :]

Ahhhmmmm... So... (blushing again)...
GO ON - GO ON - GO ON !!! :)))

btw: Do I have to ask what that BOING!!! meant or do I know ? :}

Edited by - spesedy on Dec 29 2000

dumblonde
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Posted - Dec 30 2000 : 8:43PM
I seem to have gotten way off-topic here, but what the fuck, I don't hear anyone complaining.
BOING!!! verb 1. sound of a tightly wound spring uncoiling 2. sound of a dick suddenly standing straight up.

Scene 2 - we now see Spesedy blindfolded, still handcuffed, and undergoing some intense questioning by the two long-legged agents. Getting nowhere, they decide to turn up the heat by first removing his shirt. Feeling their fingernails brush up his back sent a shiver thru him, and his cock threatened to bust out of his pants. As the brunette bent down to unzip him, Spesedy could feel her long hair tickling his chest and her warm , quick breaths traveling down, while the other one helped by tugging his pants down to his knees. As soon as Spesedy's raging hard-on popped free, her mouth was on it, expertly sucking up & down the full length of it, while the other one sucked his balls. To have these two gorgeous mouths on him at once was going to make him cum quickly, and when they felt his balls tighten up, & he groaned, they stopped.
"Oh PLEASE, I'll tell you whatever you want to know, just don't leave me like this!" he begged. And although he couldn't see them, he knew they had removed some of their own clothing as well. As their full breasts rubbed up against his thigh, he could feel hard nipples, and soon heard sucking sounds coming from one, and resulted in a low moaning from the other one.
God, what are they doing? thought Spesedy. It was a good thing he was handcuffed, 'cause all it would take would be a couple strokes for him to blow his load...........to be continued..........

spesedy
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Posted - Dec 31 2000 : 8:51PM
How could this be off-topic in a Sex-Talk forum ? :-)
If you're referring to the toy-thing : Nothing changed yet. Got no reply, got no package and probably will have to wait for it since tomorrow is a holiday. I'm going on a vacation for a week on the 6th of January. I'm afraid a bit it won't reach me till then. If it arrives while I'm away some family member has to pick it up, and I will have to give them instructions to send back the second one in case it arrives. Quite some unpleasant situation :}
Then I knew it ;)
I guess I don't have to tell you that I'm excited about the rest of the story :)

Anybody ever told you you are good at writing ? I've already written some stuff myself. It was in German though and not only erotic stuff but also detective stories. Unfortunately my harddrive suffered from a headcrash and I didn't have any backups (Grrrrrrrr !!! Didn't even think that could still happen to today's harddrives).

 
spesedy
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Posted - Jan 2 2001 : 5:05PM
Hi,

You certainly read the thread in the shopping-forum ?

Great ! A&E promised to refund my money which I think is a generous thing. Thanks go out to you DB and to JKRULL who made them aware of the problem one more time.

Unfortunately no package has arrived yet, but I hope my streak of bad luck actually stops and the delay is caused by the Christmas holidays.

If both packages would vanish somehow or be confiscated by customs (although it seems A&E made clear that toys could go through custom) I'm afraid I'd turn into an axe-murderer.

If it was for my bad luck, usually the plain carrying the first package would crash down while the second one would explode.

But HEY ! Think positive

BTW: Once my order arrives I guess this thread is over. Of course only if your story is finished. Otherwise we have to keep it alive

dumblonde
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Posted - Jan 3 2001 : 12:32AM
Spesedy - You might want to get your name on a waiting list now, in case you do turn into an axe-murderer. But, I will think positive too.

Scene 3 -

We last left the hitzkoepfig Spesedy handcuffed, blindfolded, with erigierter penis and tied to a chair. The sounds coming from those two gorgeous girls was almost excruciating - wet, squishy sounds and moaning. He heard one girl say "Komm, I want to schluerfen your Schamlippen." The groaning grew louder and louder until she scheidensekrete. This was almost more than he could take, he was ready to bersten. "Bitte...aufbinden me! I need release, I'm begging you, let me join you".
"Nein Spesedy, you must stay there. But one of us will come sit on your ueberlappen".
Oh, finally..one walked over to him, he wasn't sure which one, and it didn't matter. He felt her schenkeln stradle his as she slowly lowered her tight nass fotze onto his beinhart boner.
"Ohgod, your cock feels so heiss" she whispered, as she slowly moved up and down on it. Spesedy was starting to klopfen when she stood up, and left him there, his der pimmel all verschwollen, ready to spritzen.
AAAARRRRGGGGG!!!!................to be continued

Edited by - dumblonde on Jan 3 2001

spesedy
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Posted - Jan 3 2001 : 1:54AM
LOL !

Seems like there was some extensive use of a dictionary . Many of it is right, but I had to translate some of the words back into English to find out what they should mean in that context. I guess with 'ueberlappen' you meant my lap which means 'Schoß' in German. Ueberlappen is a verb which means 'overlap'.

All in all I think you've got some talent to learn that language. Maybe the next scene will be all-German

These two agents are driving me crazy. Chances still are this will really happen since no package has arrived yet. Maybe they're just discussing what to do to me

Reason
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Posted - Jan 3 2001 : 10:35AM
"Agent Hurley, I want you to give this scumbag a cavity search! I'm talking Roto-Rooter! Don't stop until you reach the back of his teeth!"

OK, maybe that wasn't funny...

spesedy
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Posted - Jan 3 2001 : 11:57AM
@Reason:

Oh... well... Ahem... (trying to smile a little)

But it was a great effort !




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