Either way, I can not say it should be banned or promoted.

I know that doesn't answer your question, but I really can't say one way or another.

But I am against violence towards women. On screen/make believe, and real life.

--I think that this topic will probably be moved. Oh well--

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Porn is intended for viewing by adults and we all know the difference between reality and fantasy.

Some may argue that it is an imitable act and those of a sensitive disposition may act upon it.
The fact is, ALL acts are imitable and those people who have psychotic tendencies will act upon ANY stimuli.

The human mind is the ultimate tool of depravity, (not fantasy scenes in porn).

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I for one don't mind a little playful act of pining a girl down and fuck her like crazy but isn't there a find line between rought sex and rape fnatasy.

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well I have not problem with rape fantasy scene if the both consenting adults have no objection to it. I like scene involve some rought action in porn. the usual shit gets boring after awhile especialy lesbians I just love intense action involving lesbians. the good girl sex action is find but a little bit roughtness make things a bit more interesting.

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Your posts are very similar to reading those funny subtitles on old kung fu flicks.

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I am not sure how much of an issue this is given that all such scenes should be between consenting adults anyway, even if some movies don't appear to be that way.

There are two ways of using this kind of scene (and I am not sure I would describe it as fantasy, BTW): as titillation or to further a storyline. One recent movie I had a problem with was Hey Babe...Nice Tits! where an admittedly small and relatively inexplicit rape scene is used in an otherwise titillating movie, the rape theme being totally out of context. If you have to use it, it would be better to be truly justified by the story you are telling rather than being purely for titillation. British censors have a problem with any kind of violence being in a porn film at all, they seem to think violence may be considered titillating merely by its presence in an adult movie. In the case of rape, it is hard to see how it can be considered as anything OTHER than titillation unless it is part of a strong storyline where it is dramatically justified.

Personally, I'd rather producers kept it out of porn. But as to the question: banned? No. I am never in favour of censorship.

Edited by - Gabriel Nine on Nov 26 2001

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There are lots of things I don't want to see in a porn, rape, murder, internal cumshots, gapes, spitting, Ed Powers....but none of them should be banned, IMO.

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It's a fine line. All "rape" in porn is fantasy unless someone is out there shooting scenes of actual rape. Those should obviously be illegal because the act is illegal. (Just as snuff films should remain illegal or kiddie porn.)

A lot of people draw the line at rape. S&M or even rough sex may be fine, but rape is not. There are a million good reasons for this, but I'll stick with my more libertarian views and say that anything between consenting, adult human beings should be allowed. (Unless it's the new Armageddon movie Fossil Fuckers. I may abandon my beliefs and start a movement to ban this one.) :-)

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It's just that I have the choice to watch or not watch, as does everyone else.

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I don't know if there really is a clear cut answer to that though.

I do believe fantasy sometimes feeds sick peoples actions, but how can you censor everything to a few sickos don't have fuel for their fire.

Also, if you ban simulated rape, then why not "teeny bopper" porn and S&M? That simulates underage sex and violence.

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I have seen some fantasy rape scenes done really well. My tastes in porn have gone so far beyond what some people consider normal that I usually can't find my viewing fare on the porn store shelves anymore. Luckily, I have a friend who keeps me well in stock with smothering, face-sitting, S/M, and yes, simulated rape videos.

I guess what I really like about simulated rape scenes is that I know that despite everything, the girl is actually the one in power. Within the porn set, the girl is the one who says when the fucking needs to stop for awhile if need be. (At least for any decent directors.)

I think there's even less of a problem with the specific type of scene that Hooligan is talking about - the scene where it's part of the scene that the girl starts out in control and asks someone to pretend to rape her.

So even though this is something I like anyway, I would like to say that even if it wasn't, I wouldn't want to see it banned.
I have a lot of confidence in the American public, and eventually, the stuff that's crap will die out, because companies can only afford to lose money for so long.

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Just to let people know, though, in trawling at /EroDVD, they have some new DVDs in the French Extreme section that are relevant to this thread, including incest.

You can check it out, if you care to!

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Second, and I'm not a psychologist so I might but utterly incorrect here, but I think stuff like fantasy rape and teeny bopper vids (with legal age girls) and consensual S&M vids serve a purpose in providing an outlet for people with real urges in those areas. Maybe I'm wrong but it occurs to me that if someone can satisfy their urge to experience some of the things I mentioned by going out and picking up a video depicting it, maybe that person can get his/her ya ya's out with the vid and not violate some underage girl or force a girl to do something against her will. I'm proceeding from the psychological theory that people are mentally hardwired a certain way during the early years of their development and that a person seeing a teeny bopper film won't suddenly want to go out and start picking up 15 year olds if the urge wasn't there to begin with. I'm also talking about people battling with their conscience, not people that have no regard for the consequences of their actions. I don't think being able to vicariously experience their illicit fantasy would do that latter type of person any good at all as he or she will act on their urges, no matter what. What I'm saying is that in the long run, the availability of such videos might be a benefit to society in some small way.

No more yankee my wankee!!

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