I am mharris127, am male and I support this message. Of course if the woman doesn't like cunnilingus but loves to give fellatio that is something between her and her master. In most cases if a person wants you to go downtown on them than you should be able and willing to reciprocate even if it requires a dental dam or flavored condom.
I subscribe to the philosophy of a little for you and a little for me. I actually think I fucked up if the woman I am fucking doesn't have an orgasm from something (whether it be cunnilingus, penile sex or anal sex). I also believe that a man is king of his castle but a decent man will take his woman's opinion into account before making a major decision.
Once or twice the smell and taste was just awful but it was a result of some medication she was taking and she was unaware of the problem. I believe it was a steroid and she smelled just like the medicine bottle.
I once had a colleague call me a "chauvinist pig" so being called sexist isn't news to me. I told her I don't speak Russian so I didn't know what that meant. I think my point was that a man should give a woman a little to get what he needs and that technically a man could demand his betrothed concubine give him head but that he probably should take her feelings into consideration before making such a decision. Just in case you haven't ever been to a wedding a woman promises to "love, honor and OBEY" her man while a man does not promise the obey part and instead promises to "love, honor and cherish" his wife (and newly obtained property).
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Posted - Nov 15 2012 : 7:36PM
^mharris127 wrote; Just in case you haven't ever been to a wedding a woman promises to "love, honor and OBEY" her man. Any married ADT woman remember saying that to their husband during the wedding ceremony?...mine sure didn't! Edited by - trout bum on 11/15/2012 10:51:31 PM
^ In Michigan wedding vows are that a woman promises to love, honor and obey her husband and a man promises to love, honor and cherish his wife. Maybe other state legislatures have rewritten their marriage vows but Michigan has not as of yet. Of course we also still have a felony law regarding fornication and adultery so we are still in the dark ages here. As the smilies indicate the property remark was a joke. Edited by - mharris127 on 11/16/2012 6:48:18 PM
My wedding vows had the above and also every wedding I've been to has had the obey part like you state. It should be that way. But these days women don't respect the man enough to really obey them. I was born to late. I should have been born in the 1900's. You can call me whatever you want but my grandfather on my mothers side had it made. He worked and she stayed home and took care of the kids. She cooked, cleaned and did everything else in the home besides repairs and he brought home the bacon. That's what I'd like.
A friend of mine had the 'obey' part in her ceremony--which was normal for her church. I almost gagged. It was the 70's, though. You'd think it would have been gone by then. My first wedding was performed by my minister grandfather with his usual script, but we had the 'obey' part surgically removed (we tried not to offend grandpa with that). My second wedding, we wrote our own vows. Obey. Phthooooey! Obey?
To understand the clause about obedience we must bear in mind that not only have marriages been arranged in many cultures, but brides have been purchased outright. It serves little purpose when both parties enter into an arrangement of their own free will.
Back in the early 80s I went to visit a girl from work I didn't know very well. Surprisingly we ended up making out pretty heavily after a short time. When the opportunity presented itself I put my fingers in her pussy and explored it for a few minutes. I lifted my fingers to my nose to see what it smelled like and was met by the rottenest, nastiest, filthiest odor I'd ever experienced. It was pretty obvious that "female hygiene" was not in her vocabulary. I quickly excused myself and went to the bathroom and washed my hand for several minutes. We only communicated by phone a few times after that. During one of the last calls she told of going to a carnival and getting in a fight with another girl and cutting her. She sounded pretty amped up about that part. That's when I decided that she wasn't the girl for me.
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Posted - Nov 17 2012 : 10:48AM
I highly doubt it "is the law". I guess most Catholics married in Michagan. aren't legally married. When you are married in a Catholic church, you are give a book"Together For Life" and the couples choose their own vows. Many couples who have written their own vows leave the obey part out. In Catholic weddings rarely do couple use the phrase.love, honor, and obey as most woman regard it as highly offensive.
Yes, fornication and adultery are felonies in Michigan. I confirmed it with a former prosecutor colleague at the university. I don't know about marriage vows, I always thought the state wrote them up and issued them to the ministers and justices of the peace with their licenses to marry people. I also know that my sister and her ex husband married at the courthouse in Walker, MI and the obey and cherish parts were in the standard vows issued by the magistrate. I also know that every wedding I have attended in Michigan had women promising to love, honor and obey and men promising to love, honor and cherish including one Catholic wedding.
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Posted - Nov 17 2012 : 8:24PM
^ I was only questioning your first post where you stated there was a law (which you then edited) about the wedding vows. I wonder how many peeps who attend a wedding actually listen to the words being recited or just assume that is what is being said?
I've been to several weddings, not one of which used the word "obey" in the vows. And if we're talking about what can "technically" happen, a woman could "technically" not give into that demand.
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Posted - Nov 17 2012 : 9:57PM
I'm sure there are some women out there who would say anything including "love, honor, and obey' just so they could find a husband and get married!
Honor and obey is what a lord expects the serfs to do, isn't it? Furthermore, giving honor and obedience seem like commitments more appropriate to an arranged marriage which, after all, used to be the norm. [word choice] Edited by - hardware on 11/18/2012 3:48:39 PM
Posted - Nov 11 2012 : 10:33PM
