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BigBobxxx
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2681 Posts
5/04
Posted - Mar 31 2005 : 12:07PM
Yesterday, I was browsing at my local stroke shop and was pleasantly surprised to find DVD versions of the great BJ series Shut Up and Blow Me back on the shelves.

Not just the first dozen or so volumes that have been re-released by Digital Playground, mind you, but the entire series up to Volume 30.
NOTE: I'm assuming most of us here remember All Good Video, the studio who produced Shut Up and Blow Me, was purchased by Odyssey Group Video who then went bankrupt

As a huge fan of the series, and after renting and viewing Volume 28, I immediately realized something wasn't right.

(1) Every other volume in this series I have ever rented or purchased (both VHS and DVD) normally runs about 1 hour and 40-50 minutes (i.e. 100-110 minutes). This DVD only runs 74 minutes.

Rog's review of this title (done from the VHS) shows a runtime of 100 minutes!

(2) The scenes are obviously edited (shortened).
MANY of the scenes start right in the middle of the action. The SU&BM series, on the other hand, was KNOWN for its opening set-ups and production values.

For example, action (the set-up) that Rog describes in his review of the Stevie scene doesn't appear here.
When the final scene with Aurora Snow finishes, we start to hear music (presumably leading to end credits which aren't here either) which then ends abruptly in mid note (snip).

Some scenes have the girl ID'd at the beginning (as the SU&BM series normally would), but most don't.

(3) The disk itself appears to be a pressed DVD... but it only has 2.9 GB of information on the disk (one would expect a single-layer studio DVD to contain 4 - 4.3 GB).

I own one original Digital Playground re-released SU&BM DVD (of Volume 11) and it has 4.31 GB of information. It also has the entire 108 minute feature.

The DVD disk art says "Copyright 2005 All Good Video."
How is this possible? AGV no longer exists... does it?
Didn't Digital Playground acquire the rights to the entire series?

One things for sure:
this is not an original AGV disk;
this is not an original AGV/OGV disk;
this is not a re-released Digital Playground disk
(DP is not referenced in any way, shape or form in the video or on the packaging).

My first reaction is that someone has decided to start bootlegging the SU&BM series... but I could be wrong.
Even if they were, we're talking about titles from a bankrupt company from a catalog that is owned by "whoever" (if anyone).

Does anyone know what is going on here?

Endless Loop
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8/04
Posted - Mar 31 2005 : 4:23PM
It would be interesting to learn what happened, even though I doubt much could be done about it at this point.
An excellent oral series, a couple of which I too, keep buried among my VHS archives.
I had wondered what happened to AGV Video, a company whos's name has remained, etched in my memory through use of their insidious catch phrase plug.
Executing it directly after nutting in and upon the face of a well deserving pornstress, the recipient would then turn to the camera and proclaim, "Its all Good".

Hell yeah, it was.

Edited by - Endless Loop on 3/31/2005 4:26:51 PM

MisterNoGood
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195 Posts
2/04
Posted - Mar 31 2005 : 5:27PM
After Odyssey Group Video went under, "Mike" had a few blowjob movies made under another company using his old initials AGV, but this time calling the company "All Great View" and released Below Tha Belt 1 and 2. The Odyssey versions of Shut Up and Blow Me 15-21 are still easily available at some online stores if you dont like these newer versions. I am not sure who owns the rights to the series now, but I would buy numbers 22-30 even if parts are edited out rather than not have them at all.

MisterNoGood
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195 Posts
2/04
Posted - Apr 6 2005 : 12:15PM
I just bought a few of these new versions and I think the mystery of who is making them is solved. The custodian of records is not the same as listed on the Digital Playground or Odyssey versions. I did some searching on the web, and found a list of all the custodian of records for all the companies over at xxxbuymail.com. I looked up the name R. Duak, and unless he just recently left, he is the custodian of records over at Sunshine Films. So my guess is that they have bought the rights to this series.
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Posted - Apr 6 2005 : 12:29PM
Yes, Sunshine bought Odyssey's entire catalog.
 
Ramsey
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Posted - Apr 6 2005 : 1:28PM
Also the Rodney Moore titles?
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Posted - Apr 6 2005 : 1:44PM
Good catch, Ramsey. I found the original article, and, according to it, his titles were not included.
Ramsey
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Posted - Apr 6 2005 : 1:58PM
Thanks for the info, I read this part:
And I still don't understand why Rodney Moore doesn't release some of his older titles on DVD, not to mention why he doesn't reprint some of his DVD's which are out of print like the complete I Swallow serie which were released by OGV.
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Posted - Apr 6 2005 : 2:00PM
You'll note that the article said the titles were tied up in litigation. If that is still the case then that would explain it.
BigBobxxx
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2681 Posts
5/04
Posted - Apr 6 2005 : 3:30PM
This is all very good news indeed!

I've been renting the entire series ASAP, and it seems as if #28 has been the only one edited down as far as I can tell. Every scene is still there, though, even when shortened.

I did come across one other volume where the new DVD was actually missing one scene entirely as compared to the VHS version I watched two years ago.

I'll report back as I compare the new DVD scenes with the original AGV/OGV versions if and when I find significant changes.

FYI, Peter & Jeff have updated the IAFD listing for Volume 28 based on my corrections (we're not disregarding the fact that these titles were previously released... just making better IDs and scene lists).
Shut Up and Blow Me #28

tritone
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4/03
Posted - Mar 4 2006 : 10:07AM
OK I am reviving this topic because I have some new information.

I have recently rewatched my DVD copies of Shut Up and Blow ME (SUBM) 27 and SUBM 29.

And not only do the scenes appear to have been shortened (which I can live with), but scenes are actually missing !!!!
I never saw the original VHS versions of these movies so I did not immediately know that there was a problem.

In SUBM 27, the scenes with Aurora Snow and Kaylynn are missing. Even worse, you see bits of both these scenes in the opening credits. I was excited to see Kaylynn sucking on a large black dick ... only to be dissapointed when that scene did not occur.

In SUBM 29, Kaylynn is listed on the boxcover, and is shown in the opening credits, but does not appear in the movie.

The running time of SUBM27 is 91 minutes. SUBM29 is 90 minuts. Now I am guessing that they cut these scenes to keep the DVD size under 4.7 MEG so they could use cheaper, single layer DVD-5s.

I would rather them just compress the movies a bit more and squeeze them all into 4.7G than to sacrifice more tease and even worse -- whole scenes.

Can anyone who owns (or may have seen) the VHS of SUBM 27 or 29 confirm that Kaylynn & Aurora Snow are in those flicks?

BigBobxxx
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Posted - Mar 4 2006 : 11:26AM
In SUBM 29, Kaylynn is listed on the boxcover, and is shown in the opening credits, but does not appear in the movie.

I just checked my DVD copy, and you are right about the Kaylynn thing on all three points.

Oddly enough, Samantha Sterlyng (as spelled on the boxcover) appears in two scenes.

Interestingly enough, the SUBM 29 DVD only uses 3.56 GB... so there is plenty of room for the entire movie at whatever compression scheme they used to create the single-layer DVD.

It could be that the original release never contained the scene in the first place. But, I agree, I'd like to know.
I'm thinking that there were probably many screw-ups as AGV was bought by OGV (SUBM 29 was actually released by OGV according to the boxcover). Quite possibly because OGV was on shaky ground before going under themselves shortly thereafter.

imak
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3345 Posts
2/04
Posted - Mar 4 2006 : 3:29PM
ive been in offices where they had masters and chromes just thrown into boxes, half of them on the floor half in the vault fuck I have personally one pass original tapes thinking well fuck we have the medium format master
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

i always wondered what they would do if the had to have those tapes.

also i have seen some shity paperwork, if you sell the movie you have to transfer all the paperwork, if a scene doent have a signed release wouldnt the new company not be able to use it and have to go in and cut it out,that doesnt explain the half scenes though, unless original footage of opening was on a missing dv.

when a custodian of records had be changed on a title we didnt have the master *or* original footage for we had to go in and rip a copy of the dvd. then edit and re master. im not sure how that affects quality but i assume it has to.

Im not a tech person.

I also saw a worker steal the beta master for a title when they were selling the entire catalog to another company, will that company ever notice that title missing from the hundreds they bought? they havent gone in to re release that series so maybe not.

all I know is I wouldn't be suprised if shitty record keeping and tape handeling was at the bottom of this.

tritone
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1009 Posts
4/03
Posted - Mar 4 2006 : 5:02PM
Thank you for the confirmation BigBobxxx and thank you Kami for the insider comments.

Sometimes it is frustrating to think that there is footage of one of your favorite starlets (Kaylynn) sitting in a vault somewhere.


MisterNoGood
Member

195 Posts
2/04
Posted - Mar 4 2006 : 5:30PM
Tritone,
Rog and Den both reviewed the vhs version of shut up and blow me 27. The Kaylynn scene was never in the original movie. However, both reviews say there is a total of 15 girls in this movie, so it would seem that the Aurora Snow scene is the only scene missing from this new version.

Even though there is some scenes missing, I am still happy that Sunshine re-released this great series.

Edited by - MisterNoGood on 3/4/2006 6:19:26 PM

 
eduardo911
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1299 Posts
8/03
Posted - Mar 4 2006 : 6:19PM
There should be a law against re-releasing titles incompletely.

Many RLD titles are re-released in Europe by some French company, they leave out all the extras such as BTS and bonus footage. I think that sucks.

Joey Starr
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Still wanking after all these years.
8082 Posts
10/00
Posted - Mar 4 2006 : 6:33PM
The company producing licensed RLD DVDs in Australia does the exact same thing, and I too think that sucks...

On the other hand many times they put another RLD disc in the package at no xtra cost , but you don't get the artwork and you only know which extra DVD it is when you open the box.

They do the same thing for Zero Tolerance DVDs.




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