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Diville
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102 Posts
12/99
Posted - Jan 19 2001 : 9:42PM
Apparently there are some business who refuse to ship adult materials to certain states. Unfortunately mine--Tennessee--is one of them. Considering that I have no other choice than to accept these policies, I'll live with it. But here's the part about the simple request:

If you run an adult DVD business that has certain policies about not selling adult DVDs, can you state it up front, in the shipping policies section of your site, maybe? It's more than frustrating to spend time on a site filling up a cart, only to discover at checkout that the company that runs it wants nothing to do with me. Such is the experience I just had with Adult DVD Empire (whom I've ordered from before) when I tried to take adavantage of their recent sale. Even worse was my experience at DVD Advantage, who accepted my order, charged my credit card, then refused to ship my purchases. Of course, they credited my account a couple of days later when I found out, but had I known they feared my state I could have avoided the whole situation. Considering I had just received a package from them a couple of weeks earlier I was surprised. From valued customer to pariah...just like that.

I once said that I'd never do business with another company besides Five Star, so maybe that's the price I must pay for my wandering eyes. Sorry Five Star, I'll never cheat on you again.

Drew Black
broken crankshaft

8009 Posts
9/99
Posted - Jan 19 2001 : 9:54PM
Diville - you bring up an appropriate point considering the dark times the adult entertainment industry is about to enter.

I'm sure that the store's lists of no-ship zones will be increasing rapidly in the next few weeks. Most responsible studios, brick n mortar retailers and etailers are carefully reviewing their product offerings and sales/shipping policies. Don't be surprised if you see some stores make significant changes very soon.

I've heard rumors of studios recalling many titles due to content that might be misconstrued as obscene by the upcoming political regime. We're investingating these claims and will be working with the stores represented on ADT to accurately reflect their product offerings and keep everyone informed of any policy changes.

We will be adding an "I'm Old Enough and Love Porn on DVD" entrance page to ADT and Gay DVD Review. Unfortunately, it's become a necessary evil.

Diville
Member

102 Posts
12/99
Posted - Jan 19 2001 : 10:26PM
Drew--thanks for the reply. It's not the kind of news I like to hear, but at least I have a better understanding of the climate. The "I'm old enough to love porn" page was only a matter of time, I suppose. I'm actually surprised you've avoided using one for so long. But since you brought up the idea of age confirmations, can I take it a step further and ask about waivers, and how much they protect a seller from porn fearing zealots? Way back in ancient times, before I regularly visited ADT, or wrote any reviews, I won a free DVD by joining in the chat with with Asia Carrera. Before shipping it to me, though, Steph required me to confirm that I was old enough to watch it. Would it be possible for a retailer to require a more stringent test like, say, make me sign a piece of paper declaring, "I'm an adult and I love porn...so much in fact that I'm willing to pay for it and take responsibility for you sending it to me?" I'm guessing a retailer's fear is not losing a court case, but just defending himself in one.

I asked DVD Advantage if there was anything I could do to make them more comfortable doing business with me, but as it turns out, there is no compromise on the situation. If any store representitives are out there reading this, I'd be interested to know what the exact nature of their concerns are and what can be done--short of new legislation--to make them more comfortable.

HoustonDon
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Houston
561 Posts
11/99
Posted - Jan 20 2001 : 12:16AM
I've seen some sites that had long lists of zip codes they won't ship to. I guess a lot of PO Boxes are opened in surrounding areas since that would sidestep the issue.

In any case, I hope someone tells us what dvd's will be taken off the market beforehand so that we can pick up a few copies without waiting for the year or two it'll take everyone for the hysteria to die down and start selling "risky" dvd's again. I wonder how much of this current fear is just marketing hype and how much is actual fear of the feds...




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