Real Sisters: Not approved, just wrong. Step Sisters: Bring it on... kinda creepy but hey the dark side is always more entertaining! Pretend sisters: Why not, it's nice!
There's no point in arguing when you present the only two alternatives as: 1) Incest 2) "drunkin date rapes and pier pressure black mail leaving them to life of alcoholism and regrets" You didn't present a rational argument, so you're in no position to demand that of others. Edited by - bigmatt on 11/24/2007 11:16:09 PM
I need counseling for questioning this bullshit society puts on people. You still haven't given a reason. Because theres not one. It's happening right now as I write this. People just don't want to talk about it.
OK. I wasn't arguing in favor of inbreeding. I've seen the results of inbreeding and they ain't pretty. Shagdog. You can't argue with reality. The only thing that I was saying was that sexual experimentation between young siblings happens. And it's probably very, very common. And also, I don't really see a problem with two grown sisters together in a porn scene. It's not like there's any danger at all of anything, really. As long as they're cool with it, why should I care? But of course, the porn industry should be careful with this sort of thing because it's exactly the kind of thing it's critics and opponents could use against porn in general. It might be appealing to some folks to see lesbian sisters going at it but it's really not worth the fallout that will invariably happen if you have that kind of stuff showing up. Especially unannounced. As far as the few scenes that have been mentioned with twins or whatever, I have no idea of they're really sisters or not. There are lots of people who resemble enough that if you dressed them the same, did their hair and makeup the same, you might think they really are twins. Edited by - randomprecision on 11/24/2007 11:49:22 PM
I think it's really hot! Well as long as its lesbian incest or cousin incest. Brother sister incest is gross in my opinion! And it's very common! Don't you guys see girls grabbing their sisters tits trying to "play it off' as a joke? I don't care how bad a guy is joking, I am NOT letting him touch my dick even if he says or IS "joking." And woman poking at their nieces tits saying "oh you've grown boobs!" etc. And you've seen two sisters go in the bathroom together while one is showering right? Would YOU go in the bathroom while your brother is showering? Let's review why, and think now how common "ince-" is just for the record... Lanny Barbie and Kimberly Franklin Scenes.. HOT!!! They are just step sisters, but the way they emphasis the scene is totally hot!
RandomPrecision Real incest is highly unlikely. Real incest would put performers at legal risk. I don't think they would have the money or the interest in defending themselves in court. The Supreme Court ruling in Laurence V Texas has put all morality laws in question. Including incest laws. But for incest laws to be struck down, someone will have to challenge them. I think the challenge if it ever comes. Will come from a case similar to Laurence V Texas where a third party turns them in. And more importantly a group like the ACLU or Free Speech Collision finance the fight. I did not advocate inbreeding. My responds was about the silly notion that mother nature protects against incest
I agree. I don't think it's worth the risk. I don't even think fake incest is worth the risk. They could get away with it as part of a storyline in a mainstream Hollywood movie but the porn industry can't get away with it and probably shouldn't try. It's not really about how wrong (or not) it is. Everything is always about what people will think. But I'd say they'd be more likely to get away with lesbian sisters than gay brothers or a brother and sister. Again, it's all a matter of stigma.
Jim, You touch on that there's some sort of rule as to what is allowed / not allowed... I remember one of Ivan's blog posts he commented on having to tell the Stevens sisters to ease up their interactions since they couldn't film it... Can you elaborate where the line is commonly drawn? (I assume every company has their own comfort level...) Thanks!
It seems to be standard practice now that any sort of incest scene is preceded by the actors saying "I am X years old and I am NOT related to Performer Y."
RandomPrecision I think fictional incest could be explored. The Supreme Court has shot down this law already. And is not nearly as bad as the gagging puking and peeing in a girls mouth videos. Everything depends on next years electionsI'm not Jim But the line is drawn in the law. How far this line is crossed depends on the parties involved and they're comfort that the Free Speech Collision can and will bail there asses out.
Hee hee. Somehow, I don't see this appearing on any candidate's platform. "If elected, I pledge to give the people what they really want: more incest porn!"
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Posted - Nov 25 2007 : 11:29AM
Shagdog wrote "Why shouldn't when a boy or girl reaches puberty, becomes interested in sex. That their first sexual experience be in warm safe consensual loving environment of their family." This is precisely what members of NAMBLA say giving themselves excuses to rape their daughters and sons. I know you didn't mean it that way but trust me after working with juveniles for almost 25 years I have seen the effects of incest. http://www.nambla.org/ These people are sick and criminals to the worst degree.
Usually when I don't like something on TV or a DVD, and I have control over what's on the TV, (sometimes I don't if its at a family gathering, or more than one person is watching for a group) I change the channel or just turn off the DVD. If I'm by myself, no one at all is forcing me to watch it.
backdoorman As I said earlier the drunken father raping his kids is the only face of incest allowed to be discussed. Does alcoholism and drug abuse by parents, abusive controlling parents that drive there children into the street,permissive parents that never teach kids self-control or self-discipline or extreme poverity and neglect have any effect on messing up kids. Fact is kids can get messed up in a lot of different ways. I think sometime the sex abuse is the only thing society wants to hear. If the experts are to be believed incest is wide spread the cases reported are just the tip of the iceberg. I think most don't feel like they we're damaged. And remember we're talking about sex. In the history of mankind only a very small few have chosen not to participate in having sex.
I'm not propaganding any point of view here. I'm not pushing a case. I was criticizing your reasoning. You however, were arguing in favor of incest with arguments that I think are absurd. To legitimize it you were talking about "drunkin date rapes and pier pressure black mail leaving them to life of alcoholism and regrets" as the alternative to incest. I reject that as an argument. We probably agree on some major points, I'm not arguing for bans and adults should probably be able to fuck their siblings if they want. But if you want to convince people of that, you should use arguments that make sense and don't sound as alarmist and exaggerated as those that opponents of porn use.
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BigMatt These are not my talking points. These talking points are used by experts in explaining the high rates for teen sex. The fact is when teenagers go though puberty they become interested in sex. Our daughter’s get just as horny as they’re brothers. Clam Digger There used to be a lot of incest jokes. before PC took over. And there is always truth in humor. belch Why It was a good way to pass a cold rainy week end. Edited by - Shagdog on 11/25/2007 2:59:51 PM
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Posted - Nov 25 2007 : 3:04PM
belch Why It was a good way to pass a cold rainy week end. Controvery/Ending up being loathed for my opinions around here is not my thing.
For us I am always asking my bosses what can be done. What I got was, no sexual contact. No kissing or licking or penetration. But come swapping is okay and all those pussy to other girls mouth in Sweet Cheeks 9 www.IamIvan.comAnabolic, the Barry Bonds of Porn
There's No mother nature revulsion??? Yeah, I see mothers & sons, brothers & sisters, fathers & daughters hooking up all the time. :::rolling eyes::: I'm sure it happens from time to time. I'm saying that it rarely happens. I'm sure that, in the beginning... Creation or Evolution or whatever... inbreeding was more common. As our numbers grew, perhaps mother nature implanted something in our minds: "Directive 4". :) "Go spread your genes. Don't combine them with your siblings. They've already got them."
RFrog The reason you don’t see it or hear about it. Society won’t allow it or allow it to be discussed in any rational terms. It’s against the law. Anyone that comes forward publicly will be brutally attacked, held up to public ridicule, humiliated and charged with a crime. You can “rolling eyes” all you want too but according to experts it is very wide spread. Nothing in Mother Nature keeps people or animals from doing it.Not from the candidates. No politician will ever vote to change these laws. But what kind of judges will be appointed to federal courts will. Will judges that believe in civil rights of the individual, freedom of speech, freedom to make individual choices or do we get judges that believe the government has the right interfere in your life, make choices for you. These ruling will not just effect porn and sex. But will also effect labor laws, consumer protection laws, your rights to privacy, search by police and medical research. Pretty much everything Americans believe is they’re Constitutional protected rights
As far as the law, there is mainly the vague notion of obscenity, which can be anything at all really. In practical business terms, the limit is really whatever any of the biggest customers or gatekeepers (credit card processing, Visa, hosting) would have as a policy in terms of self-censorship. Anything more than possibly incidental sexual contact between two blood relatives could be a problem for distribution or payment processing. That being said, there are multiple examples of movies that have come out on DVD and web sites that contained sister sexual interaction that just flew under the radar so to speak and haven't had any issues, mostly because they weren't advertised as having such content or no one ever called them on it.
hey mi3lu, if this in fact is true, that is fuckin' HOT !can u give us any more deets on this 3way ? ie)whose idea was it or did they do it more than 1x and was the gf in college ? I guess since you said there was p2ogm/a2ogm the gf didnt mind sharing the cock w/her sis or was there any jealousy/fighting over him ? please enlighten us more on this ..if u can ! by the way, why hasn't anyone mentioned the Steven's sisters here ?...no one seemed to have a problem w/them sharing a cock when that came up in this forum..are they actually sisters or created by the porn industry as a "novelty" ?
So theoretically an anal cumfart between Britney and Whitney would be okay as there isn't an actual law banning it. I can't imagine anyone coming up with this law and getting it passed, I mean, how often does that actually have to occur to make it a problem for the community? I can understand the nature of promoting genetic diversity, but what genetic freak would be the result of a union between sisters? The only real freak issue would be for a kid at Thanksgiving dinner with his Mom and his aunt knowing what has transpired. In More than a Handful, Brit & Whit do kiss and suck each other's tits. Honestly, I find this less disturbing than people who are into to amputees and cut off their own fingers and limbs or people who want to look like Barbie or a cat/tiger and get plastic surgery, tattoos and file down their teeth to look that way. It seems like psychologists no longer say stuff like that is sick but rather a "lifestyle choice". My aunt(married into the family) once offered me her lactating tit. I learned from my dad that my grandfather impregnated two sisters. I don't know if he did it at the same time or what, but I'm quite shocked by many of the things that have been kept from me. I suspect there's a bunch of shit in my own family that I don't know about.
Maybe on your planet, but on this one Mother Nature does try to keep family members from fucking each other and even when they do, their offspring is genetically inferior, thereby dooming that line and taking it out of the gene pool. Relatives are not supposed to fuck each other, period.
The only THING that keep incest from happening or being admitted too is societies condemnation of incest. There is not a mammal including humans, that fathers or brothers can't fuck sister or mother. Societies condemnation of incest keeps people from admitting incest. But they still do it. And again incest is not inbreeding. The porn serie Kirdy Stevens Taboo 1 thur 5 deals with incest is the best selling serie of all time. If and when the law is changed incest movies will be everywhere. In the seventy's there was a lot of family based porn. Edited by - Shagdog on 2/25/2008 7:11:04 PM
Don't see what's wrong with it. I'd give anything to see Whitney & Britney Stevens doing ATOGM and then for Britney to cum fart a load from her ass into Whitney's waiting mouth, then Whitney cum swap it back with Britney! Porn heaven. Nothing says romance like anal sex.
I used to think Shagdog was just a closet pedophile. I am happy to see now that incest is also a major interest of his. I always thought those sick animals who molest their own children were too deranged to function like a normal person. But apparently they can post on message boards like everyone else.
This is how threads get out of control. The original question was about incest (between adults) in porn and had nothing to do with pedophilia. When it comes to such touchy issues, it really would be nice if people could stay on topic to avoid a shitstorm. Edited by - randomprecision on 2/26/2008 10:13:03 PM
Two sisters performing with one guy should be the only way to film a movie featuring two sisters, especially twins. The Love Twins in Flesh Hunter #3 and Cherish and Cali in Perfect Specimens #2 are prime examples. If they're consenting adults then I do not feel like it is creepy or disgusting. Two sisters having sex with each other is more complex; on the surface it is something which I am aware should be nasty, but I know deep down inside that it excites me. Again if they're consenting adults, go for it.
Incest is a taboo. I am not saying that I would want to fuck my mother or brother (I actually couldn't think of anything more repulsive), but I can understand the appeal. I am personally not turned on by whether girls or boys are blood related but don't see too much of a problem with it. Back in the day, people thought gayness was the most disgusting thing in the world, and some people to date still do. But, times change. My only worry about it is it being introduced to children, as opposed to consenting adults. But, that is a completely different matter to whether a girl fucks her sister of not. Basically, if you don't like, don't flippin' watch it!
No I'm not a pedophile in fact nearly all my porn viewing is limited to MILF's. But I refuse to mouth words, society put in mouths. From now on limit your post to the topic and stop the personal attacks.
Again, one "LOL" would have been more believable. See my point about overcompensating.Oh I hear you bro. First they came for the rapists, then the serial killers, now the bastards are targeting Pedophiles. What the hell is this world coming to??
Actually, you are mistaken on this. Close inbreeding is a recognized method of developing desired traits in stock breeding schemes. The chance of reinforcing any particular bad recessive gene is still only one in four when siblings are mated. The breeder, of course, eliminates the culls and only continues to breed from the successful crosses. A desirable side effect from this is that the "bad" genes can be gradually culled from the population's genome. In the natural state, it is simply "survival of the fittest" that eliminates the culls. None of this, though, has anything to do with "incest". Incest is defined as SEX between family members, not breeding. Anyone with an IQ over 70 who was not raised in a bigoted backwater knows how to have sex without breeding.
People have used all kinds of concoctions and methods of birth control including abortion for thousands of years. There is not any new sexual perversions. Not even pornography, cavemen would draw pictures on the walls of caves of people fucking. The religious right has been campaigning against sex since about the 1300's. They can't even get their own followers to obey. The religious right leaders don't even obey these rules. The best they were to get was the "don't ask don't tell" era. But that is changing now. Incest has always been practiced, always will be. People like sex and will never stop. It's just sex, it's fun and exciting, but not the end of the world.
It appears they have been in a few scenes together. Which film was this? Any recommendations for titles where they have sexual contact with each other? Being fucked next to one another doesn't cut it for me.
You're absolutely right. It's all the fault of the religious right. It wasn't for those bastards, we would all be banging our sisters and molesting children care-free. Because as we all know, sex is sex; doesn't matter if it's your mom or you neighbor's 6 year old daughter. For fuck sakes, how many incestuous pedophiles have to suffer in shame before people see the light?!
Sisters together... too much? Again... I'm not looking at it from the perspective of the sisters. I'm looking at it from the perspective of the guy. Guy gets a girl and her sister. Lucky Guy!!! I saw a scene where two girls who claimed to be half sisters ganged up on this guy. It was a hot fantasy. Since the two were "half sisters", the fantasy was believable. Meaning, a male viewer could watch and think, "Yeah it could happen!" Guys, have you ever gone over to your girlfriend's house and had her teenage sister hit on you? Maybe she'd dance around you in cute shorts and a tank top, then give you a hug and you could feel her boobs mash in your chest? Have ya? Ever gone home and think about her... late at night... thinking, "It's wrong! It's wrong!" :)
AA4 is the first time Mia and Ava Rose appear together in the same scene. Unfortunately, they never touch each other, even by accident and the focus is on their ASSES, not on anal, which neither sister did in this scene. There is no ATOSM or PTOSM. They are simply props - sister props positioned next to each other to separate perverts like me from my money in the hopes of sisterly love. No lines were crossed here unless you object to naked sisters riding cowboy inches away from each other. The lines were originally and incestuastly crossed in 1978 with "Teenage Twins" where the Young Sisters (Brooke and Taylor) actually have sex with each other - kissing, petting, oral sex, finger insertion, etc., Each girl then takes a cock in her ass at one point in the movie. Lesser lines have been crossed, most famously in 2004's "Perfect Specimens 2" which in addition to being both Keri Sable's and Christie Lee's First Anal (sep. scenes) as well including one of my all-time favorites in Cris Taliana (Cum Swapping with Sabrine Maui), it features Cali Marie & Cherish (The Twins), a couple of 19-year old (at the time) non-identical twins, who later got into some legal isses and became "The Whores Formerally Known As The Porn Twins" and then finally, the Milton Twins. The action in PS2 is described in this site by the great bono-one "You see some mish to both girls, there's some spoon, cowgirl with some P2M, then one twin tongues his balls while he is fucking her sister in spoon. Jules then has the girls get in a 69 and he does fuck one anally in doggie and she does A2M and then you do get a slightly incestous moment when one sister does taste some ass from her sister's ass and she does this a couple of times!! Moving on we get a more traditional doggie anal with more sister tasting the others ass, damn that should get a lot of your off several times!! We close with some fine shared cock sucking and Jules shoots a good load to both faces and they do some more sharing with the cleanup. PS2 is a GREAT movie even if you do not get the Taboo rush you were looking forward to. For me, I think one sister licking a cock that was just in her sisters ass is hot as hell.
btw did you catch who that whole deal was with? They got picked up drunk in a club by Nick Carter(Backstreet Boys) and did a home movie orgy with him and 2 other guys I am also a huge fan of sister, twin sister, mom.daughter scenes....from the days of the Young Twins up to and inc the Stevens Sisters. I am surprised at some of things I see come out on DVD...I'm nver surprised at what I see on the web...and I love it all. most-surprised-to-see-on-a-regular-porn-DVD scene had to be one Potter twin fucking her sister in the ass with a strap on.
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