10000kbps to 11000kbps for 1080p doesn't mean much when you don't specify the codec being used seeing that 1080p video compressed by HEVC can have about 60% of the video bitrate of H.264 and maintain the same quality.
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| DJboutit2 Member 438 Posts 4/09 |  Posted - Dec 26 2015 : 2:03AMThis goes for all the sites dropping 1080p with bitrate of 3750kbps to 5000kbps that is way to low for 1080p 720p should be 6500kbps to 7500kbps 1080p 10000kbps to 11000kbps If your not shooting in 4K yet you should be shooting 1080p at 60fps And for the few sites that are still not dropping HD videos set up your game already this is not 1996 the GF site with 3 to 5 mini sites still does not shot HD video Edited by - DJboutit2 on Dec 26 2015 [Link] |
| JigglyBoobs Senior Member 1614 Posts 3/12 | Posted - Dec 26 2015 : 4:58AM 10000kbps to 11000kbps for 1080p doesn't mean much when you don't specify the codec being used seeing that 1080p video compressed by HEVC can have about 60% of the video bitrate of H.264 and maintain the same quality. [Link] |
| DJboutit2 Member 438 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Dec 26 2015 : 12:49PM [Link] |
| jeffandersonn Deactivated User 1605 Posts 3/13 | Posted - Dec 26 2015 : 1:56PM great content but really poor video quality. bangbros 3 weeks ago released some videos in 1080p 12000kbs but after few days swithced back to the old lame format [Link] |
| shalalin Senior Member 1736 Posts 11/07 | Posted - Dec 26 2015 : 2:09PM And then there are companies that just don't seem to know what they're doing with the encoding. DDF has pretty high bitrates but their stuff looks no better than other companies' encodes do at significantly lower bitrates (with both being H.264). Edited by - shalalin on 12/26/2015 2:11:58 PM [Link] |
| DJboutit2 Member 438 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Dec 26 2015 : 3:56PM Mr Strokesxxx is about 3750kbps to 5000kbps Realitykings 8000kpbs better still kinda low 8k is decent but the codec they used sucks there video would look 30% better with a better codec Hardx sites 5000kbs to 6500kbs videos always look super airbrushed Swallowsalon 4500kbs to 5500kbps [Link] |
| JigglyBoobs Senior Member 1614 Posts 3/12 | Posted - Dec 26 2015 : 4:11PM [Link] |
| murdock Member I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV 911 Posts 4/06 | Posted - Dec 26 2015 : 4:12PM Quality should be the objective, not quantity, and most of the encoders can be set to achieve constant quality, which is generally going to be the best of both worlds and yield a finished product that is as small as possible while still having the best possible picture quality. Device compatibility is another issue too. Some encode settings will result in better quality/compression but decrease the number of devices a file can be viewed on. But if you want better quality, ask for better quality, not higher bitrates. [Link] |
| DJboutit2 Member 438 Posts 4/09 | Posted - Dec 26 2015 : 4:41PM [Link] |
| JigglyBoobs Senior Member 1614 Posts 3/12 | Posted - Dec 26 2015 : 9:33PM As murdock rightly pointed out a "good bitrate" for transcoding isn't the solution to everything, especially if your source material is of poor quality. When I was subscribed, MOFOS 720p was 8000kbps (H.264) and 1080p was 12000kbps (H.264), more than your proposed bitrates but a lot of those videos are not as good quality as Brazzers videos which have very similar bitrates.How do you deduce that the codec used to transcode the video is the problem and not the source material? A lack of ambient light can lead to reduced quality video if the ISO is turned up to compensate so whatever codec you use to transcode such video footage becomes academic to an extent. [Link] |
| Jackie Treehorn Member It'll knock both your eyes out! 311 Posts 3/04 | Posted - Dec 26 2015 : 10:59PM Format : MPEG-4 Format profile : Base Media / Version 2 Codec ID : mp42 File size : 2.76 GiB Duration : 38mn 47s Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 10.2 Mbps Encoded date : UTC 2015-12-16 22:44:19 Tagged date : UTC 2015-12-16 22:44:19 Writing library : Apple QuickTime Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L4 Format settings, CABAC : No Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames Codec ID : avc1 Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding Duration : 38mn 47s Source duration : 38mn 47s Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 9 595 Kbps Maximum bit rate : 10.0 Mbps Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 1 080 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 29.970 fps Standard : Component Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : Progressive Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.154 Stream size : 2.60 GiB (94%) Source stream size : 2.71 GiB (98%) Encoded date : UTC 2015-12-16 22:44:19 Tagged date : UTC 2015-12-15 22:46:10 Color range : Limited Wheras BRAZZERS videos you can at least see under the hood a little better [Link] |
Goldstein  All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Dec 27 2015 : 6:08AM The bottom line is that so much of the source material is of dreadful, wildly variable, quality. Where the technical stuff is helpful, however, is when you have a good, well-shot scene to begin with. On a good scene, a bitrate of 12,000 for a 1080p is well worth it. I would suggest that a better comparison of technical specs can be made by comparing the various video sizes offered by a website for the same scene, and noting the differences. For example, I have found that 4k does nothing for me to merit the huge file size involved. Unfortunately, as more scenes are filmed and offered at 4k, I may have to start downloading them at 4k -- as the companies are doing an increasingly bad job of outputting their lower-resolution files for download. With one scene, I had to download the 4k file because all the other files were corrupted and would not play to completion. Also, one studio -- I'm looking at you NaughtyAmerica -- shoots decent video competently and offers HD downloads at decent resolution (e.g. 192 hex 1080 @ 12.43 Mbps @ 24 fps), yet the files you download play dreadfully. Literally, I have to recode every single NA video I download, in order to have a quality file that plays smoothly. (I rarely encounter these issues with other studio's videos.) FYI, I have the horsepower to handle and process video well. So, that's not an issue for me. (I'm running an i7 CPU on SATA III (6 Gb/s) motherboards with 16 GB RAM on both my media/video machines.) [Link] |
| hcsl_12 Member 6 Posts 1/16 | Posted - Jan 7 2016 : 6:32AM Summary for EvilAngel Bitrate - could be a little bit higher Preset - "slow" (or better: "slower", ...) definitely not "fast" or "medium" newer x264 version - actual MP4s from EvilAngel are still encoded with x264 core 107 (actual version: x264 core 148) and please don't add aditional frames in order to get to 29.97 FPS for some videos. [Link] |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Jan 7 2016 : 9:57AM [Link] |
| hcsl_12 Member 6 Posts 1/16 | Posted - Jan 7 2016 : 11:18AM [Link] |
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| Paria Adel Member 23 Posts 12/15 | Posted - Jan 7 2016 : 12:05PM [Link] |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Jan 7 2016 : 8:05PM The best I've ever used. Produces virtually flawless results (as long as you're not asking it to do stupid things)  You may find this thread of interest. Generally, I recode everything -- and I'm talking about porn videos here, not video files from/for other sources -- as .mp4 files (which most everything tends to be now, anyway). What led me to Movavi Video Converter in the first place was the need to make quality recodes of odd file types I was encountering, of great scenes, but just wouldn't play nice with any software or players. * I keep the frame rate at whatever the original file's is (typically 24fps or 30fps... aka 23.97fps and 29.97fps). * I keep the resolution the same as the original (e.g. 192 hex 1080, 128 hex 720, 64 hex 480, etc.) * I usually bump the bitrate up a bit (e.g. say from 12,000 to 16,000 on a 192 hex 1080 video). (The thread linked to above explains somewhat.) I do a great deal of harvesting and editing of scenes, in addition to doing recodes of entire scenes. For example, I will take a typical Brazzers 192 hex 1080 @ 12,000 kbps @ 29.97 "30" fps, and make my edits at 192 hex 1080 @ 16,000 kbps @ 29.97 "30" fps. I use CyberLink PowerDirector for editing purposes. And, FYI, Movavi Video Converter is far superior to CyberLink's Media Espresso for out-and-out recoding. In fact, Media Espresso's inability to handle the odd/difficult file types was what caused me to search for a better recoding solution in the first place (i.e. Movavi Video Converter). Hopefully hcsl_12 can tell you why my approach and software sucks and point you in different directions, as he really "know{s} what {he's} am talking about"  Edited by - Goldstein on 1/16/2016 1:30:52 PM [Link] |
| Paria Adel Member 23 Posts 12/15 | Posted - Jan 9 2016 : 12:53PM [Link] |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Jan 9 2016 : 4:42PM First thing I'd like you to do, is get the actual details of your video file: * Right-click on the file * Select "Properties" * Select "Details" With this information, I can advise you as to what settings I would suggest. There is no point trying to create a "high quality" file (i.e. with very high quality settings) if the content just isn't up to that level to start with. So, we must ascertain what are suitable settings to salvage the best possible video out of what the original file gives you to work with. You won't necessarily "see a noticeable difference in video quality," unless the playback was so screwed-up and/or with artifacts when playing the WMV file. HOWEVER, your recoded .mp4 file will play smoothly -- including FF, RW and slo-motion -- as opposed to all the playback restrictions WMV files often impose. And, your recoded .mp4 file should play on almost any computer and software. Goldstein also recommends you get VLC Media Player (instead of Media Player Classic) as an excellent free player. [Link] |
| Ben Mockridge Deactivated User 382 Posts 9/15 | Posted - Jan 10 2016 : 6:36AM [Link] |
| snufish Member 580 Posts 4/14 | Posted - Jan 16 2016 : 9:29AM Read this article on BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/2009/12/the_hitchhikers_guide_to_encod_2.html It basically tells what camera sensor, resolution and bitrate to broadcast video to customers. Trends & implementations of HDTV Broadcasting ...Minimum (video) bit rate to provide HD quality (from EBU tests - BPN085-087): 720p/50 - 10Mbps 1080i/25 - 12-14Mbps... [Link] |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Jan 16 2016 : 2:01PM Now, when video file downloads give me playback problems, I just make a new completely recoded file with Movavi Video Converter. Whether 24fps or 30fps, I'm generally making the recoded files at 12-16 Mbps for 192 hex 1080 .mp4 videos. These newly recoded files play effortlessly on all my computers and playback devices. Not only for fast forwarding, but for reverse and slo-motion playback, as well (i.e. what I would believe is typical porn video viewing habits). As I've said before, I find NaughtyAmerica downloaded videos to be almost unwatchable unless I make new recoded files for viewing purposes. Again, the newly recoded files play perfectly. [Link] |
| murdock Member I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV 911 Posts 4/06 | Posted - Jan 16 2016 : 2:03PM Video quality is not simply a matter of choosing a bitrate based on resolution and framerate. If you set a minimum bitrate that guarantees every clip will look great, the vast majority of clips will be unnecessarily large, which amounts to a huge waste of resources. That raises the cost to maintain the site which raises the prices for consumers. If you set a minimum lower than that, then what's the point? Some clips could still end up looking bad, so your regulation still hasn't fixed anything. This is a situation that isn't conducive to a one-size fits all approach. There is no magical list of settings that will yield a good quality video every time without creating unnecessarily large files. It's a matter of knowing the type of content you're encoding and often times it's still a matter of trial and error. If quality was the only concern, then why bother with compression in the first place? Just post the raw, uncompressed video for everyone to download and watch. Edited by - murdock on 1/16/2016 2:04:16 PM [Link] |
| murdock Member I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV 911 Posts 4/06 | Posted - Jan 16 2016 : 2:03PM Edited by - murdock on 1/16/2016 2:04:03 PM [Link] |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Mar 31 2016 : 12:56PM You know those videos on download sites where the aspect ratio (e.g. 4:3 and 16:9) has been screwed-up? Typically, one encounters this when older standard definition 64 hex 480 DVD quality 4:3 aspect ratio video has been improperly re-encoded to H.264 MP4 video(s) for downloads. (The 4:3 aspect ratio got re-encoded with a 16:9 aspect ratio -- by sloppy conversion work by the website -- resulting in distorted stretched images.) One frequently encounters this on Videobox, for example. Well, this past week I found that I can take these screwed-up files and recode them myself, using Movavi Video Converter, and correct the aspect ratio with very satisfactory results  You can set your desired aspect ratio to 64 hex 480 and/or 72 hex 480 as part of the conversion process. Since many standard definition Videobox files (i.e. the standard definition files that had their aspect ratios screwed-up during their conversion to H.264 MP4 files) are using about a 1000 kbps bitrate, I also will increase the bitrate to 4,000 kbps for the conversion. This way, there is plenty of "headroom" to preserve video quality for a fairly substantial recoding. The video quality of my newly recoded/converted files, now with the correct aspect ratio restored, is indistinguishable from the skewed originals -- except now the images are scaled properly and look the way they were originally intended to. The reality is that, many older scenes are no longer available on DVDs, and the original studios never made the move to membership websites (probably due to not enough content to make it work). So, the files available on Videobox are, in many cases, the only way many of these older orphaned scenes are available at all. I'm thrilled -- thrilled! -- that I have discovered a satisfactory way to make these scenes watchable again There's a lot of great older standard definition 64 hex 480 content that is being lost, as most membership sites seem to view it as not being economically viable. Fortunately, Videobox manages to pick a lot of this stuff up (even if they screw-up a lot of their conversions). Hope this is helpful. [Link] |
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| Mister Fahrenheit All-Star Member Meh 4655 Posts 10/13 | Posted - Mar 31 2016 : 1:23PM [Link] |
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