Piss or squirt juice? who cares? As long as I see liquid shooting out. It's all about the visual, I mean it's not like I can smell or taste it so is it really a big deal what it is?
Every time I hired Missy, she did amazing scenes! She would rub her clit until she would cum and I mean cum really hard! However, there was no piss on my couches, I do not want piss on my porn furniture. Yes, if girls drink a lot of liquid, they can lose bladder control during cumming. Unfortunately, the piss is a little yellow if they do not drink a boatload of water. On Bridgettes set, Mark Wood had a yellowish fluid on his stomach, the smell was that of urine, it kind of grossed him out. Mark Wood is an incredable performer. He is just not into getting pissed on, I mean squirting. While filming another fampous squirter, Alex Sanders got grossed out from the wretched smell of piss, becausde the girl did not drink enough water. I left it in my Rosebud movie, it is clearly piss! There is no where in a females body that can store ounces and ounces of cum! Women secrete, they do not ejaculate ask any Doctor in the entire world, who has knowledge of a womens pussy and womb. If this keeps up, I'll film a video where guys squrit in girls faces saying, I cumming, I'm squirting. Skeeter Kerkove "King of Sodom" The truth is out there! Porn producer, director, performer. I am a huge fan of hardcore porn
You guys are going to "piss off" Axel Braun. How dare you say it is piss when Axel Braun strongly believes that it is "squirt" or paraurethral glandular ejaculate fluid with distinctively different taste and smell.
People can believe what they want to about female ejaculation. Many of the people that believe it is piss, never witnessed it. To me, those people would probably arguing with Neal Armstrong about what he saw on the moon. Frankly, I want to see a man piss as much as Cytherea squirts. Women that squirt have strong PC muscles, women with weak PC muscles have problems with bladder control. When a woman experiences female ejaculation, they feel orgasmic. No one experiences orgasms when urinating.
Searching for blonde and red bush 1985 Posts 10/02
Posted - Feb 14 2005 : 5:33PM
That was a fun read as are most of the King's. The Outlaw of the West Pecos and self-described "smart as a box of rocks" director has a refreshing way of answering questions and slicing through bullshit.
I'm not so sure . Only very recently it was discovered (by a woman Dr , surprise surprise) that the clitorus is actually 5 times larger than had been previously thought . Like the tip of an iceburg the little nub is only the , well , tip of the iceburg . The larger part curls round the urethra underneath . If this is only now being discovered then what other secrets of female anatomy are still waiting to be unearthed ?
MLyons wroteAhh M, you know why we have to have this conversation again, so someone can be right, so truth can be found, so justice can be done, so the misguided can be made to see the light and the error of their ways, so the foolhardy can be outted, ousted and ostracised, so the universal laws of the porn set can be applied more widely for the benefit of humankind and just so...
I've read that women can learn how to ejaculate secrete... but I'm asuming it's as hard as a man learning how to orgasm without ejaculating. Lesbians supposedly dig it.
In any case I don't think it can ever be that visual. It should just be a very fine squirt not enough to sell porn with.
So, no one has taken Skeeter up on his $2000. reward? ;)
The only thing that bothers me about this whole deal are the letters I get from women who are made to feel that "something is wrong with them" because their partner sees this in porn and believes it. Maybe I could get their permission to post some of them here. Pretty disturbing actually.
Okay, the main reason for replying to this topic is that I begin to feel that I'm the only poster who hasn't touched on this topic.
But once and for all: IT DOES NOT MATTER!! It's probably just plain piss, and I think about every person on this planet is more or less aware of that fact. Now some choose to believe that it's something called 'squirting' (an idea which is probably appealing because ejaculating women can't fake orgasms anymore).
I say let them stick to that version of the story and don't care about it. Anyway: whether it's 'squirt' or piss - it's hot!!
For the record, I think that there are only 3 things that Skeeter and I would agree on, and one of them is gravity. The second is that the only thing squirting out of most women is urine. I'm not sure what the third is, but I'm sure if the 2 of us sat down over a beverage, we could come up with it.
Its OK to be turned on by urine. Not my bag, but hey, to each his own. You don't have to be afraid of it and fine a new label to make it more...palatable.
Technically, all of the conversations on this board have been repeated at least a dozen times. I think they should disable the 'search' and make everyone repeat every point endlessly.
Before people go and shoot their mouths off with ignorant comments, maybe they should educate themselves. Facts are facts and I think scientists and doctors know a little more on what they are talking about than just some anal King. Face the facts, squirting or female ejaculation is real and proven not to be urine. Here are some educational websites to look at and learn. As you can see squirt or FE is the same fluid that is in semen. Basically semen without the sperm. If you massage the prostate and stimulate the prostate long enough the male is also capable of huge ejaculations. I know its true because I've seen it and felt it for my own eyes. Its too bad jealous people cant except the fact that some people are having better sex than them. And oh by the way....... I'm up for any challenge!!! Bring it.
Sorry, but I'm afraid you need the air-quotes around 'educational' if you're going to use it in this context.
Realy, I accept that others could be having really great sex, maybe even better than mine. I also am able to accept what _really_ arouses me, without making up magical urethreal gnomes with firehoses blasting out gallons of gnome semen.
If you're aroused by piss, or shemales, or furries, knock yourself out. Don't feel a need to justify it in any other way.
Heck, read your references yourself---They don't support these massive amounts of fluid. And from a scientific viewpoint, I don't think that 'Clitoris.com' is listed in Medline.
'Skene's gland openings are usually the size of pinholes, and vary in size from one woman to another, to the point where they appear to be missing entirely in some women.'
'The amount of ejaculate varies from woman to woman, from a few drops, more commonly a few teaspoons.'
OK, so a gland the size of a pea with an opening the size of a pinhole leads to a steady stream of fluid for 20 seconds? I think not.
Now, if you want to claim that that few drops, or even a teaspoon, is magic paraurethral fluid, fine. If the girl ejacualtes more than the guy, then its pee. Can we all agree on that?
No actually we cant agree, I specialize in anal, gaping and female ejaculation.I'm proud and support female ejaculation all the way. If you read the articles you will find that they do support the fact that females can ejaculate more than a man. Why is it so unbelievable that a woman can cum more than a man. The fluid is stored in the g spot. It like a giant sponge that retains fluids. Get your facts straight sweetie. Have an open mind. I feel sorry for the woman that ends up with you seeing that you wont allow her to orgasm to her fullest potential. I don't know what articles you are reading but they are definently not the ones I posted. "Educate" yourself. Smooches, Flower Tucci "true squirter"
mod note: edited to remove excess quotes not relevant to the response. Please do not quote entire posts when a selection will do. Readers appreciate the improved legibility.
It is funny how a male that has never witnessed female ejaculation is arguing his disbelief of the subject with a female porn star that has experienced it. Flower is one of the best squirters in the business.
I'll be honest, I couldn't pick Flower's G-spot out of a lineup. I guess all those years of medical school, gross anatomy, and pelvic dissections were a complete waste of time. I guess there is a gallon-of-fluid containing spongy tissue that, like a camel's hump, stores huge amounts of fluid to be expelled during orgasm. Because we know, evolutionarily, how important it is for females to douse their mates with...oh, heck, I can't go on.
Its like a family I knew where the kid needed brain surgery. The family wouldn't consent to the operation until Uncle Teddy drove in. You see, Uncle Ted had been shot in the head and had a steel plate-he was the family expert on brain surgery since he'd had it himself. Once he said it was OK, the neurosurgeons were allowed to operate on the child.
Just because you've had brain surgery, you're not an expert.
I'll assume the 'sweetie' is meant nicely. I don't have anything against you, never seen a scene you're in that I know of. The quotes I clipped were directly from the links you posted, I don't have the time to make anything else up. The G-spot isn't giant, and it doesn't store the liters of fluid that many are claiming.
Be consistent with your logic. If you claim it is a prostate-like organ, and its no bigger than a prostate, why would you ejaculate more than a man with an actual prostate? To be honest, I don't really believe that there's much there, but I'd give you that point, in the name of peace. That's the reason its not believable that a woman can produce a higher volume of 'ejaculate'. There's no reason for them to ejaculate. There's no structure that can create that volume of fluid, There's no where to store it. Just a bladder and an urethrea. That makes it pee.
Just because someone studied or read books on anatomy does not mean that they are an expert on female ejaculation. Would I want a family doctor perform brain surgery because he read about the brain and its functions in a medical book or medical school? Or would you want a surgeon has experienced and performed brain surgeries?
I said before, I'll say it again. I will suck on ice cubes for 4 hours and drink no fluids and still have amazing gushing FE orgasms. I'm up for any challenge, bring it!! Many squirts, Flower Tucci
I am a believer, but I still would not mind demanding proof of female ejaculation (in person, of course) from a hot porn star like Flower. You have to love a woman like Flower, whether you are a believer or not.
i wonder what other secret-buttons there are on the body that seem to be invisible to the worldwide medical community but everyone in porn seems to find. i've heard rumors that if you pinch your nose shut and stick your pinkie in your left ear men can shoot a half-gallon of semen across the room. honestly, if there was any substance to the whole thing there would be urologists, gynos, the nejm and countless other researchers smarming around chatsworth to document everything about the phenomenon that they've been blind to since hippocrates.
i've brought the concept up jokingly with the shrink sister and she called bullshit on the science of it pretty quickly. obviously, it's not her field, but i'd hope yale would have touched upon it at some point, given professors could get some ooohs and aaahhs out of a live demonstration that involved mystery fluid erupting across the room upon orgasm.
Let me get the biggest myth out of the way- IT IS NOT URINE. Upon testing the liquid, scientists have found that it contains levels of glucose (sugar), and an enzyme (prostate acid phosphatase), which is characteristic of a major component in semen. It is similar to the prostate fluid within male ejaculation but without the sperm. There are also two other substances contained in the fluid, commonly found in urine (urea and creatinine), which are found in trace amounts. It is a unique substance, and unlike the heavier and thicker fluid that you would typically see when a chick is "wet" or has had an orgasm.
*information used in this post is from : http://www.holisticwisdom.com/services_female-ejaculation_what-is-it.htm
You can test my FE anytime. I'm sure it would have just as much traces of urine that a mans semen would. Seeing as men ejaculate through their pee holes. Whats the difference?? I'm up for any challenge, anytime, deprive me of fluids, test my ejaculation, bring it!
For those with an open mind and curious about female ejaculation, I would recommend reading "The G Spot" by Alice Kahn Ladas, Beverly Whipple, and John D. Perry.
I squirted way before I got into porn. Infact I got into porn because of my FE skills. The reason the medical field is so slow to learn about FE orgasms is because american society doesnt really care about the pleasures of american women. American women didn't even have the right to vote until 1920. We are still fighting to keep our abortion rights today! Most doctors and religions believe women should only have sex too reproduce. Again why would they care about FE. Seeing as they wouldnt even operate on women until the late 1800's. Women would die from something as simple as an ovarian cyst. If you look back through American history you would be led to believe women have only been squirting since the 1980's. I'm sure the Japanese people would disagree and sit you down and explain to you the truths of Shiofuki.
As LeeO pointed out about a 100 posts ago, it's only in 1998 that the true structure of the clitoris was accurately drawn -- traditional anatomy texts had it wrong. A tiny abstract below, the good doc's work is available for a fee from the Journal Of Urology -- it makes fascinating reading.
Further reading: "Anatomical relationship between urethra and clitoris" by H. E. O'Connell and others, Journal of Urology, vol 159, p 1892 (1998).
"The gross and histological anatomy of the human female perineum is often described in cursory [1] or comparative terms. [2,3] Typically, the human female perineal anatomy is briefly described only in terms of its differences from the male perineal anatomy. Frequently, descriptions of the neurovascular supply to the perineal area are scant or absent. Female urethral anatomy, with the exception of its sphincters and surrounding fascia, is usually described without reference to surrounding structures, particularly the clitoris. The clitoris is said to be different from the penis in that the urethra "does not traverse it." [4]"
From the New Scientist article - O'Connell first realised just how little was known about female sexual anatomy when she was studying for her surgical exams in the late 1980s. Even nowadays, she says, textbooks routinely recycle decades-old, inaccurate illustrations of female sex organs, or omit diagrams altogether. The written accounts can also lack a certain something. One text describes female genitalia as the same as the guys` only turned inside out; another, as the "poor homologue" of the male.
And none of them—not even the anatomists' bible, Gray's Anatomy—describe in detail the nerves and blood vessels that go to the clitoris. "For a surgeon," says O'Connell, "that's unacceptable."
We don't know everything about everything. I'm pretty confident I'm not pissing in my bedroom. If I were that'd be okay too.
This thread needs more double-anal with white girls who until now have refused to have sex with black men until now where she is getting gangbang creampie'd by 55 guys while leaping through flaming hoops and being puked on.
We can then discuss watching a movie where the girl is a real-life runaway on bail for drugs and hooking on the side while in real-life agony due to the size of the two 747's taxiing up her butt while being choked and having her head stood on.
1.) First off, where on earth are you people coming up with these ridiculous claims of 'gallons' and 'liters' of fluid? Nowhere (outside of sleazy marketing hyperbole) has anyone ever seriously claimed such amounts for female ejaculation. Oh, I know all of you will say "Look at all that fluid! There has to be quarts there!", when in truth, even the largest female ejaculations do not consist of a very large amount. Even the biggest single gush I've ever seen Flower bust out (for example) never have more than two tablespoons worth of ejaculate in it, as best as I can tell, and that's a generous estimate. It LOOKS like a lot, but thats's because it's coming out as a spray, with force behind it; the combination of multiple flying droplets (all reflecting/refracting light), and the distance that some gushers with very strong musceles can get, lends to the illusion that it's a far greater amount than it actually is.
2.) Too much distance, you say? No way can women can squirt that far? I've seen videos of guys ejaculating distances of over eight feet, and that's with the more viscous male semen. Since there are guys who can ejaculate with that kind of force, how is it not possible for women w/ strong vaginal kegel muscles to ejaculate the much thinner femejac for such distances, too?
3.) Some of you say there isn't any organ where it's stored, nor any way for ejaculation to occur. Yet the existence of the paraurethral glands has been well documented, and it's origin is well understood. It stems from the same source organ in the zygote as the prostrate gland does, and has a similar position in the body - right next to the bladder, and surrounding the urethra. And it inherits the same abilty to produce ejaculate. In a woman's body, its function is somewhat vestigal, as it isn't used to carry semen, but all the rest of the musculature that's used for ejaculation in men is there. It's just that with women, unlike in men, the kind of muscular contractions involved in ejaculation aren't usually instinctual during orgasm, except in a small portion of the female population that can do it naturally. However, it's theoretically possible for any woman to learn how to have FE orgasms, with sufficient practice and dedication. And has everyone forgotten that many soft bodily tissues are not fixed in size, but can swell with fluid? Especially the spongy, porous tissues of the human genitalia? Think about how much the male penis grows in size when going from a flaccid to an erect state...
4.) Oh yes, and you folks keep bringing up these autopsied corpses with tiny skenes glands... and then say that these are representative of EVERY SINGLE WOMAN IN THE WORLD. Well, isn't that a nice fallacy to fall into! Have you folks ever heard of the word 'atrophy'? As in the shrinkage of a muscle or organ due to lack of use? Those women whose bodies were cut apart in all likelyhood never had FE orgasms, so why would they have large glands? No one has ever thought to do an MRI imaging of the pelvic region of a woman who *is* a gusher (esp. one who can have large FE orgasms), and then see what the size of these glands are in her body, to see how they compare... until that time, no one can claim that all women have the same exact glandular structure as those corpses.
5.) In a related point, why do people think that Flower and Cy are representative of what typical FE is like? The majority of women who have FE orgasms do not have numerous huge room-spanning squirts, nor do they try to. Indeed, the amounts & force of the ejaculations are much more modest - but the intense feelings of it are just as real, and are enjoyed just as much. The reason why such a big deal is made about Flower and Cy is *because* they're so extraordinary (in porn at least).
6.) Now, I know there are those of you who are saying, "Why the big fuss? Who cares whether it's urine or not?". I'll tell you who cares about it: Commonwealth nations like Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and othe nations, outlaw FE because they ignorantly think it's peeing. There was an incident not long ago where a shipment of magazines w/ a still photo of Cy squirting was confiscated and destroyed. Not only that, there are countless women out there who are denigrated by their lovers for having FE orgasms, with the cry "you peed on me, bitch!", and often these women - not knowing the truth of what happened - will suffer for years, feeling shame about themselves, and might never have another orgasm for fear of peeing; where if the truth were known by them - or their lovers - they would not be forced to carry such a burden. Does that make it clear why we're fighting so hard? As long as the lie that FE = urine is propagated, this kind of nonsense will continue.
Audrey Madison Interview
Posted - Feb 14 2005 : 1:48PM
