But it's a free country, and as long as the performers are willing participants and the product is marked appropriately, more power to you. I hope the freedom of expression and the profits are worth it...if authorities are still going ape-shit over fisting, then this stuff is destined to wind up in a court somewhere for sure.

A couple of other thoughts are in this thread:

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Naturally, I'm sure you realize that you are limiting your customer base with your choice of niche product. VCA and Vivid don't really &quotthe standard" for porn, they merely appeal to the broadest audience with what they think that audience wants. They seem to do pretty well. Bully for them, but there will always be the demand for something else. You appear to want to play in that area.

I wish you luck. My gut level reaction is "What the fuck? Is that supposed to turn me on?" but I know people where it will do exactly that.

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We seen a pornstar in Rough Sex #2..and she was crying. She believed that she was gonna get raped and so the scene drastically ended very fast. There was no sex in that scene, nothing.

Roughness..I love but in the sense of ramming my dick hard in the pussy or doggystyle position. But no woman loves to be grabbed by the neck or slapped in the face, gagged, etc. This type of behavior leads to worst things and clearly sends the wrong message to porn fans.

Vomiting? Licking semen from the floor? Is this erotic? This is mentally distrubed behavior.
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If we're to believe your hype on the Extreme message board; it would be former, since you write re: using Jewel D'Nyle in one of your slap happy movies:

"She is a top-level performer who could lose out on thousands of dollars worth of work if I bruised her like I would like to . " (emphasis mine)

Why the misogny? What the hell happened to you in high school that you want to BEAT WOMEN? I mean, this isn't movie violence, this is REAL violence. What the fuck?

You should go to jail for assault.

And, one last thing, you also say "Anyways, Vol. 3 of Slap Happy will come out in January (sorry, no DVDs for now). " -- so why are you coming to a DVD themed site if you have no DVD's to shill?

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Re: Jewel DeNyle. I never said she did my series. Yes, I did ask her. She politely declined, for the reasons I posted on the message board of extremeassociates.com. Jewel COULD lose thousands of dollars worth of work if she were to get bruised badly. Since I have worked with her in the past, I know how voracious her appetite for sex is. She devours her men! If I were to slap her and she was into it, she would let me continue until either I stopped or she were unconscious! That is just the type of performer she is: always giving 100% to any director for any scene. She is a pleasing person by nature, and, to be honest, she does not need to prove anything by getting slap-happified.

RE: Real violence vs. staged violence. Is my SLAP HAPPY any more disturbing than when Max breaks down Mirage or Ryan or any other girl? Am I more offensive than he is? Max is successful because he is the best at what he does. Guess what? I want to do that, too!! There is more than enough room in this sandbox for us both to play.

RE: Did Rob Black ask me to make SLAP HAPPY or did I do it myself? I financed SLAP HAPPY #1 out of my own pocket and took it to every company in porn. Most slammed their doors in my face harder than I have EVER slapped ANY girl! A couple of fence-sitters wanted to make drastic changes. Only Rob Black had the balls (and the vision) to take a chance on something new, something Anabolic started, got an AVN award for, and then backed out of. You can say what you like about Extreme and about Rob Black, but I respect this company for TAKING CHANCES and allowing pornography to EVOLVE AND CHANGE as part of its own evolution. I do not, will not, and cannot accept a future where Vivid, VCA, and Wicked are top sellers and my only outlet for quality harder stuff is Max Hardcore. The only constant thing is change, so get used to it.....and remember the name Alek James Hidell.

RE: Should I be charged with assault? Let me guess....you do not like SLAP HAPPY, right?? Fine. Deal with it. Let me make it perfectly clear: I speak with my talent before, during, and after the shoots. I check identification and verify HIV tests. I allow models to set their own limits. I do not cross lines which they have told me not to cross (ie: do not spit in my face, do not pull my hair too hard, I do not want to eat cum.) For sure, some girls let me do more than others, but ultimately, it is the girl who decides how far she wants to be broken down in 12 minutes.

RE: The very real possiblity that this may end up in court. The election has opened up the very real possibility that companies may start getting raided again, as they were in the 1980's. If SLAP HAPPY were to be targeted as obscene, I would welcome the chance to test the limits of the First Amendment. You may not agree with what I say, but each and every one of you should be willing to defend my right to say it. This includes all my cunts, sluts, and whores who work for me. There! I said it. Arrest me!

RE: Why there are no DVDs yet and I am plugging my video on this site. Extreme Associates staggers its VHS and DVD releases so as not to cut into our own sales. SLAP HAPPY will most definately be coming out on DVD in 2001. I would hope that I would be allowed to engage in meaningful discourse with the consumers of my product even though it is currently available only in VHS format. How many other directors do you know who take the time to solicit people's opinions?

I appreciate your time. The slapping WILL continue....

Alek James Hidell
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I know my opinion concerning censorship and barriers in creating porn isn't always agreed on
by others, but I feel democratic needs to share it again :)

I've already written some lines about that in another thread.
Without wanting to step on anybody's feet : since I'm living in Germany where the government
isn't as restrictive concerning these things as in the US, I often can't understand the
negative hype that is made about certain aspects of porn.

I would never beat or rape a woman or do her any harm otherwise, I simply adore and worship
them too much for that, but we all know that porn depicts fiction.
The actors know what they want to do and what they don't. It's up to them. It's their
freedom of choice. Why take it away from them ? The production of these videos is done in
a very democratic way. Everybody says what he wants and what he doesn't want, and it's done
that way. On the other hand censorship is never done in a democratic way.

Even if I may not like some sort of porn and find it weird and disgusting (what rarely
occurs ;)) I see no reason why it shouldn't be there for people who enjoy it. If I don't
like it then I don't watch it. It's that easy. I won't tell other people not to watch it
because I don't watch it, though.

I'm sick of porn companies being so afraid of the government that they even censor videos
by themselves before publishing them on DVD or that they don't even think about publishing
them on DVD although they were quite successful on VHS and most of the time totally legal.
Isn't it silly to censor out bits of text of a Max Hardcore video on DVD while the original
was sold and watched thousands of times ?

I appreciate the try of Extreme Associates to push the limits a bit further like porn used
to do all the years before the companies became too tame and too afraid.

I deeply respect the opinion of other people who say they don't like this stuff. On the
other hand I know lots of people who don't have any problems with it without being
psychos and without beating their wives (they lead very happy and loving relationships).
They just would never write their opinion on a forum because they're afraid people could
think they're weirdos. So where has this governmentally forced morality brought us and
democracy ?

I have never seen 'Rough Sex' and since I'll certainly never have the opportunity to see it
I can't judge it.
I'd be happy if Extreme Associates would go their way without thinking about political
correctness too much. Please create and publish what you want as long as everybody involved
can live with it. And if you really plan to publish 'Slap Happy' (haven't seen any of them,
yet) and other movies on DVD please take care that nothing gets censored out. If anybody
feels the need to censor then rather don't publish it on DVD at all.

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Kianna Bradley On Rough Sex

Kianna, a Metro contract girl, writes: I must comment about the Rough Sex video line by Anabolic. That if you don't like it, don't watch it!!!!! , Yes something
different. People fear what they don't understand. I am on the cover of Rough sex 2 and I happen to enjoy rough sex if I am in the mood. As for Anabolic not
informing the female talent about the intensity and the female degradation, it is bullshit! it took four days for them to hire me. They made me fully aware of what the
scene would consist of. They even gave me the first "rough sex" video to have me watch so there would be no misunderstanding. After the fact, I must say watching
the video was much more intimidating than doing the actual scene. During the filming of the scene, the director and producer were asking if I was all right and if I
wanted to continue. At no time did I have the feeling that I was being pressured to keep going on with the scene or what they expected next. Everything in the video
was real I did drink piss and cum out of a wine glass. All I am trying to say is that I am sure that all the female talent was made aware of what was going to happen in
the scene. Anabolic, in my opinion is one of the more up front, honest and giving companies I have ever worked for. (well, besides METRO. hehe.) Love, Kianna

P.s. Why can't we all just get along. I hope that anabolic keeps making the videos and if I was not signed with Metro I would do it again.

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I don't care who you are, if you want to wrap yourself up in the first amendment or what, that shit is wrong, and will do nothing to help the porn industry.

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I can't see how you can reconcile "do not like to beat a woman" with "if I bruised her like I would like to ".

Seems you're talking out both sides of your mouth. Where I come from, bruising a woman is beating a woman. End of story.

Someone somewhere at some point should have told you it was wrong to hit a girl.

And if everyone is "reborn" when they join Extreme (what is it, some sort of frigging cult?) how did Rob and Tom escape their baptisms?

Your choice of name is rather interesting. It's obviously not *just* to mask your true identity from society (and in doing so, does it make you less accountable?); but also to provide you with some sort of persona.

So, I wonder how you perceive old Lee Harvey? (For those of you just joining us, Alek James Hidell was an AKA for Lee Harvey Oswald, (alleged) assassin of our 35th president, JFK...)

Was Lee a murderer? Or was he a patsy?

If a murderer, is that how you want to associate yourself? Is that how Rob & Tom see you (since they gave you your name)? Personalluy, I don't hold murderers in such high regard...

And if he was a patsy, what does it say about how Rob & Tom perceive of you if they want you to take that persona? Perhaps they bought your Slap Happy series because they smell the Republican scent in the wind and need someone to take the fall. I hope you got some good lawyers.

And I am dealing with it, by speaking out against it.

They do all the things you do as far as disclosure with their "talent" and they still go to jail.

Taking your hand to someone is statutorily assault. You can couch it in whatever first amanedment cra you'd like; but it is still assault.

And the fact that someone is letting themselves be assaulted for 12 minutes, for a grand or so, is a sad comment on where things are.

Or maybe your sales figures are dependent upon making the consumer buy copies of shit they alrady have. Pervert 1 buys Slap Happy a soon as it comes out, but he has to settle for VHS; tho his format of choice is DVD... or he has to wait 8 months to see it on DVD. I bet the poor fuck ends up buying it on VHS and then again on DVD... paying twice for the same product.

Really looking out for the consumer there, Bran, er, Alex.

So, don't think you're such a novelty. While I appreciate your soliticion of comments, I think the ulterior motive is a little blatant.

In any event, thanks for responding.

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I think it's sad that there are people out there that get turned on by this crap.

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I acknowledge Alek's constitutional right to make these types of movies under our current laws. I suppose there's a decent market for this stuff otherwise they wouldn't be making them. I do appreciate the position that Extreme Associates has taken on in producing this type of product. They will most likely be the prosecution's primary target in the next wave of obscenity prosecutions. That's a good thing though. It's like they're the sacrificial cow that gets cut and tossed in the Amazon river downstream. The pihrahna are drawn to the blood and kept busy while the rest of the herd safely crosses the river upstream.

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I hope you can find your conscience someday.

Like anyone else you are welcome to voice your opinion on our site. You are welcome to get consumer feedback. But if we all tell you that we think your violence is disgusting will you stop?

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This past fall, I saw Brandon Irons at Extreme's editing bay. He was getting some hints about editing his movie from Slain Wayne at Extreme. He showed me part of it and asked me what I thought. I said the non-passion of it did nothing for me. He asked if he could send Evil Angel a screener. I said of course, we don't turn away screeners, just directors.

I am proud to say that I am in a small part responsible for Slap Happy not being distributed through Evil Angel. I believe that John would have never sold it, but I have told John that as the DVD producer here, I would never produce a DVD of that title, so he'd have to hire a new DVD producer for that title.

No, Brandon's movie isn't illegal. However, I cringe to think that someone inclined toward raping someone (NOT someone who is consensual about rough play during sex) might see a video like this and have it fuel his actions.

I myself do like to have rougher sex. Rob actually helped me develop that side of me. But I really believe there are a lot of viewers out there who DON'T understand that what is in videos like this is only play. That the girl is always actually in charge. S&M play is VERY, VERY dangerous, and although I have only seen Brandon's screener of Slap Happy and not how Extreme marketed it, I highly doubt that they would have put a disclaimer on their video describing that things were consensual, and how dangerous things could become if people in a real-life situation went too far physically. I've been around Rob for too long and realize how much he truly does not care about anyone.

I wish Brandon luck in continuing to find girls who do like rough blowjobs and sex. Because I am afraid that he is an impressionable person who, being around Rob, may be influenced into thinking that the girls in porn are really just no-good whores and it doesn't matter what they like or not. And then in the future, he might not be so careful about making sure that the girl is comfortable with doing that type of video.

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Even with how these movies are made aside, it comes down to what is portrayed to the viewer. Viewer perception is everything. No matter how concentual these women are, they appear to be getting abused. Therefore, it's violence and not porn.

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P.S. Samantha Stylles did Slap Happy this past week. I am sorry to inform my critics, but she told me herself she enjoyed her experience. Really!

P.S.S. Rob Black has put me in charge of PISS ZONE, a section of www.extremeassociates.com where consenting adult women get urinated on by 1 or more men. They receive urine on their faces and in their mouths. DOES ANYONE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS, TOO??? While silence may be golden, so is the piss. So SPEAK UP and start your bitching now, all you armcharir Meese Commission wannabees! I can only say that your anger with my video only gets condensed into a potent concentrate that is unleashed on the next SLAP HAPPY "model."

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If you want to know MY opinion then just read my last messages in this thread and replace 'slapping' with 'pissing'. I'm sorry if I'm destroying your 'potent concentrate', but I see nothing bad about it. I'm wondering a bit about the cultural and social differences between the US and Europe. I always loved the US because of their great attitude towards freedom and democracy and the first Amandment and stuff like that. On the other hand I start to realize how restrictive they really are concerning people's privacy and their freedom of choice. Here in Germany and I guess in all of the rest of Europe (especially in the Netherlands, Norway, Denmark and Sweden) piles of those videos can be found without any problems. I'm yet to meet someone (actor or watcher) who was psychically disturbed after doing/watching such a film. The same goes for things like fisting. That's no problem here. Why should it ? After having heard so many great things about Chloe's performances and after having seen a few I was thinking about getting 'Chloe's I came did you?'. After having heard about a black bar in a certain scene, which sounds quite silly to me, I'll certainly not get it or try finding it in Germany.

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all I wanted to say was : If I don't like it then I don't watch it. If something is permitted in many countries for decades without encoutering any problems, then why should it be disturbing and censored in another highly developped country ?

So Alek, Brandon or whatever your name is : If you encounter too many problems and are taken to court or forced to remove movies from the market, then why don't you and Extreme Associates come here where you'll certainly won't have many problems ? ;-)

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I think there is enough violence in the world that we should be able to keep it out of sex play.

I consider myself "normal" and I have yet to feel like I need to beat my wife, bruise her or choke her with my dick.

I usually try to make her feel good; at least as good as I may be feeling.

So, call me whatever names you like, but I feel that you are "abnormal" -- and I will not consider you a "nice guy" by any standard. If you lift a hand to someone, you are removed from my "nice" list -- regardless if "she asked me to hit her."

I am not sure where I, then, place Trish in this, as she is of the "please be rough with me" camp. But somehow I feel worse about the aggressor. The male, in a classic/biological sense, should protect the female from harm so the species can propagate. That the male won't is a bad sign (i.e. "Protect yourself, bitch") and that the girl wants a beating isn't quite right either...

I think there's a self-image thing going on ... You shouldn't want people to hit you; Fight Club notwithstanding. I just think "Why do you want to do that to yourself/let them do that to you" when I see these types of "extreme" scenes.

All that being said, I do not have the psych background to go much beyond this; and this probably isn't the place to do it, anyway...

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After having read this sentence and the rest of your message I know that we're talking about totally different things. Until now my main point was that something that isn't illegal shouldn't be forbidden or forced to be forbidden since this would 'circumcise' other peoples' rights. This should be logical and certain. What you are talking about is far more problematic and not as easy to solve.
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This might not be realistic, but a psychological test of the actors could be a step into the right direction.

I'm still sorry about you having made bad experiences and sincerely hope you got/will get over this.

As can be seen here on ADT I don't think these are the typical porn viewers, and most important : I don't think a movie isn't sufficient to influence somebody to do something he wouldn't do otherwise. We would have to censor every depiction of violence because uneducated, stupid and easily susceptible people might want to try it. How about the news ? There are people who see the description of a crime on the news and get the idea to try it themselves.

That is becaue these people are psychologically disturbed and would need to be committed to an asylum urgently.
If someone really rapes or beats a woman or commits any other crime he already had the tendencies to do so and would have done it anyway. It's not the movie which causes him to commit a crime. On the other hand it's even assumed that watching porn or violence may prevent some people from actually doing it by satisfying their 'needs' to see someone suffer (for example). It's a very complex subject.

I hope I wasn't boring all you people out there :)
The only thing left to say is to Tricia : From what I can see you're a great person. Only do what makes you happy and take care of yourself.

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I actually happen to have studied psychology for several years ;)
It's difficult to go into the depths though, and I know I don't know everything, but I've come across lots of 'strange' people until now and think it's sure to say that wanting to be dominated by someone and wanting to be protected doesn't exclude each other but in fact fits together perfectly. Strangely enough (at the first glance) lots of sensitive people who feel more need for protection than others like to be dominated by their partner because this way their partners might is displayed to them, so they got the feeling he's also strong and mighty enough to protect them from any danger. This also gets inforced by the feeling to *belong* to the partner. As soon as somebody belongs to someone else he doesn't have to protect himself and doesn't have to make own decisions thus knowing he also won't make any mistakes and won't come into a situation where he can't defend himself since there's somone who will do it for him.
This effect is well known in the evolution and has been there for thousands of years. It's not a new idea of some perverted mind. Actually this effect once was quite helpful for surviving, and although it seems unnecessary and obsolete you can't get rid of thousands of years of development at once which is one reason why there are still lots of people who enjoy this domination stuff.

Ahm... Again I hope I didn't bore anybody to death :}

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However, I thought of a distinction that could be useful.

Concerning the S/M acts themselves, if we are reasonably sure that the submissive partner can at any time give a signal that will stop the action if it becomes too painful or uncomfortable, it should be up to them to decide what they can do and how far they can go doing it. (Assuming, of course, that we are talking about people who are sane enough to judge such things for themselves. I am pretty sure this is the case.)

(If I was a science fiction writer, I could postulate a future where medical science is much more advanced - thanks to nanotechnology, for instance - and extreme masochists could indulge in being literally beaten to a pulp, or even worse. The limits of the acceptable depend on what people can get away with.)

However, when the action is edited into a product that is offered to the masses, there is the question how the viewer will interpret it. A lot depends on the way it is presented. Let us suppose that all the bits of information that indicate the consensual nature of the situation are edited out. If the viewer is a man who feels some kind of resentment towards women and feels that the uppity females should be put into their place (this hypothetical viewer could be sort of like the wifebeater figure in Stephen King's novel Rose Madder, the one who turns into the bull-thing later on), he might see this as a wish-fulfilment fantasy. In this way the video could be seen as comparable to racist literature. (This is the impression I get based on descriptions I have read - it applies to Max Hardcore as well.) So the presentation could be seen as objectionable even if the act itself is not.

So it depends on what kind of people these videos are aimed at. The interesting thing is that I have not heard of any rough sex videos where women beat up men. This disparity might be taken as partial confirmation of the "woman-hating raincoaters" view of the audience. However, I am hardly in a position to offer firm conclusions. This is only hand-waving.

Sorry about boring everyone to death . If this happens, you can virtually spank me.

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OK, 5 lashes with a wet noodle! lol
Actually, I love discussions like this - thought provoking, to say the least. While questions like "Who has the biggest tits?" can be fun, they do little for the brain cells. So, please everyone, continue!

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I have always been a sensitive person, and I think it makes me analyze the things I do. I don't feel nearly as bad for me about the type of sex I did or do as for the other people who may not be as strong emotionally as me.

Part of what I like most about S/M play is the ability to actually be the person who is controlling the action. This means that I am permitting someone do something to me. And at any given second, I am the one who lets it go further or stops it. It is an incredible sense of power. Does it scare me? It could, very much. That's why I ONLY do it in a monogamous relationship where we understand each other and what we're doing. It takes a long time to build up to that point (emotionally and physically) and I fear that too many people look at it as being easy, and someone's going to get hurt emotionally or physically.

I have a very extensive collection of European porn. A lot of it is German, as they tend to perform some of the most intense things. Some of it I like, some not, but I only watch the ones that I do... I'm French and German, and have wondered for awhile if that somehow adds to this aspect of my personality -- pushing myself sexually. I think Europeans live in a culture which is so different with how they approach and think about sex. They have developed a different maturity. I'm not saying that one is better than the other, but they're different. And therefore, the explanation for different censorings in different cultures. Most Americans probably aren't ready to understand some of the subtleties of sex that Europeans have been exposed to for years.

It is refreshing to hear so many people say that they value trust and romance with their partners.
In my defense, I'm sorry if some of you think worse of me for it, but I take that trust one step further. Less now than before, but I'M the one who, in my relationship with John, have initiated some of the things we do. I'm the one who, one night, in the middle of an orgasm, took his hand and lightly placed it on my throat. I taught him that gently feeling his hand there (not too hard) added to the intensity for me. I trust him. I know that he would never do anything where he was afraid of hurting me. I could never do these things with someone that I didn't trust and love as much I do with him. We don't do this stuff much, because he doesn't get into it as much as me, but the times when he's in the mood, he does it for both of us.

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For all you preachy critics who want me to hug these whores and sing "Kum Bay Ya" to them rather than slap some sense into their heads, let me point you to the first page of F. Scott Fitzgerald's "The Great Gatsby." It says (more or less), "Whenever you feel like criticizing anyone, realize that they may not have had all the advantages that you have had." My point is that I am a product of the same society as you, with one significant difference. I had the most difficult time entering the adult video business as male talent. Yes, I freely chose to do it, but I had many obstacles in my way. I am a short, stocky, balding man who has a face made for radio, not video. I came to Los Angeles in 1997 chasing the american dream, but woke up sleeping in my vehicle and scrounging change for food. I paid my fucking dues in this business. No one can say different.
I failed many, MANY times when I first started. As months went by, I got to be a better performer. I even was cast to work with Tricia Deveroux! (She turned me down, though, because she did not work with new, inexperienced guys.) That's OK! There were plenty of open-minded girls who did give me a chance. It took me longer than some guys to get where I am, but at least I can say I did it on my own.
That is one thing I love about this business. You cannot inherit your job as male talent. Your daddy can't give it to you. Nepotism doesn't exist in Porn Valley. You have to prove you are better than the next guy in a dog-eat-dog environment that makes Thunderdome pale in comparison.
The upshot of all this is that THIS IS MY TIME NOW. I call the shots, and if I want to create SLAP HAPPY, I make it happen.
Thousands of people are entertained because I take my perverted ideas to fruition. Some will argue the fruit of my mind's eye is rotten, but others will savour it like manna from Extreme heaven.
So I implore all of you, my disciples, to preach to the SLAP HAPPY heathens out there the gospel according to Alek James Hidell. Your reward awaits you in the afterlife...

Alek James Hidell

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Tricia, you said you were proud of the fact that, in your own small way, you prevented SLAP HAPPY from being distributed through Evil Angel. I am a realist. I never honestly expected your company to pick it up. I just wanted to demonstrate that I was now producing and editing, not just slinging cock for a living. Evil never put a dime in my pocket, and I doubt it ever will. That's cool, because I thrive on adversity and competition! For example, Legend Video put out "Gag Factor." Please! My video smacks theirs down and out! The consumer will decide who's product is best.
Back to the subject at hand, however: your peacock pride in stopping SLAP HAPPY from entering the Evil Empire. I watch all of Rocco's videos and notice that he slaps some....er, ALL the women in his videos. How hypocritical of you to criticize the content of my video while tacitly accepting it when it is cloaked under an Evil Angel logo!! And, please, do not bullshit me with the excuse, "But Rocco does it with passion whereas you do it with malevolence." Just as I wrote in an earlier post to someone else, YOU ARE NOT THE ARBITER OF GOOD TASTE!!! Please come down from your ivory tower, Princess, and wallow in the muck with the rest of us plebes.
If Rocco or Alek James Hidell slaps a willing actress, it is OK. Period. That is, unless you hold a patent on "good porn."

Had enough?? Please, indulge me to continue the slap-happification of your gorgeous visage.....two-faced though it may be.

You take issue with my brutality. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't you do a scene for "Perverted Stories" (I think) where you portrayed a young woman who commits suicide in a bathtub? You slit your wrists, bled to death, then were summarily DP'ed by Grim Reapers (Dave Hardman and Rick Masters). Now, as erotic as the image of you in a tub full of blood is, let me inform you that perhaps that offended the delicate sensibilities of some people as much or more than any scene in SLAP HAPPY. (I am tempted to write 'SHAME ON YOU!!', but I am hoping you will say hi to me in Vegas, so I won't.)

Let's squash this feud by agreeing to disagree. I respect and admire you for everything you have done, but I am not going to get burned at the adultdvdtalk.com stake by you or anyone else. The witch hunt is over, people. Go home! Nothing to see here.....that is, until "SLAP HAPPY #3: HUMAN TOILETS" hits the streets January 16th!

Alek James Hidell

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If you want to hear opinions you have to cope with them not being what you had hoped for, and when you want to start a discussion about your product then build up some logical and understandable arguments instead of getting personal and insulting. Well... I guess it's your job now that you're working for Extreme. I still think you're quite harmless and just trying to provoke some people so you'll fit the bad-boys image of Extreme Associates.

Another point is that certainly nobody here is interested in what's hitting the streets on January 16th as long as it's no DVD, so why are you constantly promoting it ? Nobody here will buy a VHS tape.

BTW: I agree with Tricia about the types of porn that are available here in Europe and especially Germany. And I guess I have to disappoint you and the rest of Extreme since there are movies available here which not even Extreme would ever have the imagination or guts to produce, not to speak of many rough sex movies which can be legally produced here but were totally illegal to be produced in the US.
So don't claim to be the initiator of border-pushing porn which lies beyond our imagination.

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Well, if this is how you react to criticism... remember what you're saying next time you send me an e-mail crying that reviews of your movies aren't being posted fast enough.

Society has taken a great many things away from people -- remember prohibition? Remember when cocaine was LEGAL?

Society giveth and society taketh away.

Deal with it.

You're abnormal. You are not among the majority. People don't like that. People have a hard enough time accepting pornography, let alone violent abhorrent pornography.

A jury of your peers will eventually demonstrate that.

I don't feel the need to bully people to make up for other psychological shortcomings.

BWAH HA HA HA HA HA HA!

Can't get it up unless you hurt some girl?

Your family must be proud.

I am now convinced that you idiots (and I use that term knowing that I am insulting other idiots by lumping you in with them) over at Extreme just (a) can't handle criticism of any shape or form and (b) just resort to "extreme" namecalling in some sort of "it doesn't matter what you say, as long as they print your name."

But make sure you get in one more plug for your VHS ONLY series... Seems like your victims aren't the only whores...

Don't let the door hit you in the ass.

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A couple of World Wars come to mind. Oh, and how about that
Holocaust! Very intense indeed.

Don't get me wrong, I've known some fine German people, I was
engaged to marry one, he was the love of my life! And as I have a Danish background, not too much different, but there IS a difference that is probably best left over there.
Sorry to get off - topic.

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1. Alek James Hidell is a thoughtful, caring performer-turned-director who is seeking innovative ways to establish both a name and a reputation with Extreme Associates. He can be brash and abrasive, but would never intentionally bring harm to anyone.

2. Whether good or bad, SLAP HAPPY is new and different. People either love it or hate it.

3. It will be impossible for a jury of my peers to be found! As abnormal and twisted as I am, there are not 12 people like me in the United States, let alone California.

4. As the motto for the Huster retail stores goes, "Relax....it's just sex."

Thank you for your time. I am sorry to waste yours with my juvenile behaviour. If it is OK with you, I will return when SLAP HAPPY comes out on DVD.
Best wishes.
Alek James Hidell

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Concerning holocausts and wars : Without many people knowing Germany was supported by many countries who then said it wasn't their fault, but it's revealed more and more by newly found documents. Many people in America actually told me they thought all the Germans were Nazis and many of them even told me this was cool and padded me on my shoulder. Can you imagine how I felt at these moments ?

Lenin and Stalin were just as bad as Hitler if not much worse. Other dictators are STILL doing wars and holocausts killing lots and lots of people in the world. In the news most of the time this only gets mentioned for a few seconds before reporting the weather forecast, but when one foreigner gets beaten up or killed in Germany and there's only the slightest suspicion this could have been done by a German, then you can see a whole documentary on CNN about it and the whole world is arguing if Germany is about to become right-wing radical again. What's not told on CNN is the fact that many foreigners are threatening, beating up and killing Germans in our own country as well, so that there are many areas here where you can't go out at night anymore without having to fear for your life. And when the police arrives and overwhelms a foreign criminal after he, without any reason, killed a German guy who was just going out with his girlfriend, and the police accidentally hurt the criminal a bit when putting on handcuffs or defending themselves, then it's in the news again saying that corrupt policemen hurt a foreign guy. Many foreign criminals are as impudent to commit crimes and telling everybody 'You can't do anything against it because then everybody thinks you're all Nazis !'.

The time of WorldWar 2 is fortunately over, but still all the people here who are certainly NOT against foreigners are expected to feel bad and excuse the behaviour of people they never knew because they were born after the war was over.

Unfortunately the world has a very twisted image of Germany. And to get back On-Topic again :
The fact that German porn may be kind of harder than US porn isn't caused by the always-existent brutality of the German race but in my opinion because most people here are very open-minded, very passionate, tend to try new things and don't condemn other people for their sexual likes or dislikes that much.

Well... Sorry for getting off-topic, but relating the intensity of porn to Germany's participation in any war is more than silly - it's insulting.

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You may get off on it, but it is *not* sex.

And I'm done now.

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id never say americans were stupid. i know too many great people who are extremely intelligent (like the people on adt i guess .
i simply wondered a few times why many of the people i met didnt seem to know what was going on outside their country. at school we had to learn so much about america. which languages are spoken where ? how and when was america founded ? all the american history and we even had to learn about all the states there are and where which plants were growing .
and when some americans tell me they dont know where germany/europe is and that they found out on tv that were eating kraut and sausages all the time and wearing leathertrousers and that hitler is still alive, i wonder what they were told at school .

Mailordered any Italian Carcano rifles lately.

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I think his last paragraph here confirms what most of you have posted. He probably doesn't care about your opinions, and it really was just another pitiful PR stunt by Extreme. Once again, it called attention to one of their products. Let it pass. The people who want to watch it will, regardless of what any of us say.

I would like to say that I have agreed and disagreed with different things said in this and other posts by spesedy, but since he stays rational, I respect him and am glad to have yet another fun person to interact with at ADT. We don't have to agree, but we surely don't have to fight in order to each get our points across.
On that note -- DB -- be assured that I've never admired Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, etc. (notice they're not all German?) I didn't mean to offend...

Finally, Brandon, I do invite you to say hello to me at the convention. I'll be the one at the booth full of directors who actually respect their fans, not berate them. My earlier post saying that I hoped you wouldn't become exactly like the other people at Extreme is too late. Rob and Tommy should be very proud.

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WOW... I'm glad you think this way
That was quite a relief, and I especially liked that part with the fun person
As I said before in another thread I happened to find out I'm quite some fan of yours. Unfortunately after having read other peoples' opinions and having written my own on diverse subjects I often come to think 'Oh man, these people certainly think I'm an asshole.'
On the other hand this won't keep me from posting my opinion even if it might be controversal. And you're right : I at least try to be rational. I try to understand everybody's opinion and attitude even of the 'strangest' people, and I hope people will treat me the same way.
I'm actually really a fun-loving, life-loving person who can spend hours with friends laughing about the whole world, but I've been worried a bit lately that some controversial discussions I attended may not really show that part of me.
I really love discussions, and the more controversial the better, as long as everybody can still be friends outside the discussion or after it's over. Sometimes I'm even arguing about something with a friend, knowing he's totally right, but I just want to see if I can convince him from the opposite or drive him crazy when he's trying to convince me just for the fun of it. Well... kind of weird I guess
I'm also willing to be convinced of the opposite of the opinion I'm having at the moment if the other peoples' arguments are good. Of course 'You are all morons !' doesn't really count as a good argument

I hope this clarifies some points about my posts and myself.

Hopefully more people are going to see me as fun person to interact on ADT

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See you in Vegas...

P.S. I must be a masochist, because I LOVE reading the replies! The more negative, the better! Kudos to the person who did the artwork. Rob Black and I enjoyed it very much.

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But then I got to thinking, it isn't violent porn that bothers me, but violent porn against women.

In gay porn, there is a small niche of violent porn, where you can see flogging, beatings, whippings, tit and ball torture, mummification (!?!?) and eletro-shock torture.

I have never seen any of this stuff, because it doesn't interest me in the least... but for some reason, I don't find it nearly as despicable as how Slap Happy has been described.

Is that sexist?

When I think of 2 gay guys beating each other to a pulp, I think "Well, they're smart enough to know what they are doing, and hey, they're guys! They can take a few bruises."

But when I think of some poor girl getting deep throated so hard she pukes, I think "That poor little thing ... she was probably a runaway who didn't have anywhere to go and some sleazeball told he he would make her a movie star."

Maybe it is time to give the girls a little more credit than that. If they know what they are getting into, and the money is good, who are we to tell them they shouldn't do it?

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You know Alek..I am SOO upset at you. SOOO upset. I mean..I want to post so negative against you SOOO negative against you. LOL!!! Do you think we take you seriously? Let you crawl under our skin? Sorry, but you don't me that criteria. You gotta be bigger dude..not a small white George Jefferson. LOL! HAHAHAHA!!!

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