Most glaringly, in a list that includes Ron Jeremy, "These women have been successful academically as well as financially..."
At least they're correcting things as they go along when prompted by baffled commenters.
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| zambi Senior Member 1451 Posts 3/10 |  Posted - Apr 27 2011 : 3:59PMFound this article talking about the 'smartest' pornstars some of whom were very well educated. The 13 Smartest Porn Stars of All Time [Link] |
Gore Gore Girl  Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Apr 27 2011 : 4:43PM Most glaringly, in a list that includes Ron Jeremy, "These women have been successful academically as well as financially..." At least they're correcting things as they go along when prompted by baffled commenters. [Link] |
| Kaminsky Deactivated User 272 Posts 4/11 | Posted - Apr 29 2011 : 12:39AM That stuff about Shy Love having master's degrees in accounting and taxation. She could go be an accountant right now! Why did she ever get into porn if she had that discipline and intelligence and head for numbers Even more mind boggling, she did not just flirt with porn, she got all the way into it I can never watch her scenes the same way again. It makes her sexier actually, knowing she has a whole different side to her       [Link] |
| Kaminsky Deactivated User 272 Posts 4/11 | Posted - Apr 29 2011 : 12:53AM Xcitement link She talks about her past. It turns out she WAS an accountant! She also used to have braces and wear glasses While she was working there she got a boob job and had the braces removed and started wearing contacts. She must have been dressing really inappropriately because her appearance became a big issue with her employer They were so irritated they asked her to resign [Link] |
| zambi Senior Member 1451 Posts 3/10 | Posted - Apr 29 2011 : 1:48AM FYI pornstar Diamond Kitty is Shy Love's real-life sister. They have different mothers but the same father. Shy is also her agent. Diamond talks about it in interview here: Diamond Kitty- Exclusive Interview [Link] |
| wcw43921 Senior Member Look Into My Eyes-- 1252 Posts 4/08 | Posted - Apr 29 2011 : 7:17PM I note that there was only one male star on there (Ron Jeremy)--surely there are other smart men in porn? I would think that Peter North has something going in the brains department if he can afford to keep and maintain a Ferrari. And then there's Jack Lawrence--I believe he graduated college, and was a soldier, cop and firefighter. Talk about an All-American hero. _________________________________________________________________________________ "There can never be too many beautiful women Hypnotized for our pleasure." [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Apr 29 2011 : 7:19PM [Link] |
| tux2 Member 220 Posts 8/06 | Posted - Apr 29 2011 : 11:18PM It's really not how many degrees someone has. If you read Kayden Kross's writing or happen upon her poetry, she's clearly very talented and bright. Isabel Pacino also struck me as really bright. I think she used it to pay off her student loans then quietly disappeared (another sign of intelligence). Samantha Ryan is another woman who's quietly very intelligent. Not sure about her taste in guys though :{ [Link] |
| angryassdrummer Member 559 Posts 3/11 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 2:21AM good to see her on there, read about her years ago and was very impressed as stated above, i find stars who are intelligent infinitely more attractive always had a massive thing for shy love, now times that by 100! juli ashton, like ron jeremy, was a teacher before sending some pics into playboy then doing porn XXXena i believe was an accountant or lawyer...cant remember which one, [Link] |
| tookie Member 732 Posts 11/06 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 2:53AM [Link] |
| Rosco Fuji Deactivated User On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 3:02AM [Link] |
| Irish Caraway Member I like to fist girls. 274 Posts 7/05 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 4:03AM [Link] |
| Gunzo Senior Member 1377 Posts 2/05 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 5:29AM [Link] |
| WardqueenJanine Member 914 Posts 2/08 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 9:38AM [Link] |
| trout bum Deactivated User "I'm Not Here To Suck My Own Cock!" 2145 Posts 5/10 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 10:22AM [Link] |
| Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 10:33AM I totally agree with every who points out degrees don't mean you're automatically smarter. There are plenty of smart girls in porn. If a girl has a degree and can't benefit from it and make it work for them the degree is meaningless. [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 10:43AM [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 10:54AM Edited by - Gore Gore Girl on 4/30/2011 10:54:35 AM [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 11:00AM [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 11:27AM [Link] |
| tmzfan123 Member 52 Posts 4/11 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 12:04PM [Link] |
| Rosco Fuji Deactivated User On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09 | Posted - Apr 30 2011 : 3:21PM [Link] |
| alphadachs Member 475 Posts 3/10 | Posted - May 1 2011 : 12:50AM [Link] |
| Rosco Fuji Deactivated User On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09 | Posted - May 1 2011 : 1:04AM The only people who argue that a Degree isn't a measure of intelligence are the ones that don't have a degree. I notice that one doesn't see too many uneducated Doctors. Careena Collins is also a Lawyer, supposedly in the Adult business. [Link] |
| Gunzo Senior Member 1377 Posts 2/05 | Posted - May 1 2011 : 1:52AM Victoria White says, I think it's in Mike Adriano's California Anal Girls, something like "I'm not really a school person because I think about dirty dirty things all day". And really it's weird that we're supposed to be able to supress our sexuality at a time in our lives where NOTHING is more important, or should be. Some of the best directors/performers seem to have been distracted by porn and eventually getting in the business. It's like this certain breed of non-conformists unfit for the greater capitalist system. [Link] |
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| alphadachs Member 475 Posts 3/10 | Posted - May 1 2011 : 1:55AM Yes, it takes something a little brighter than a doorknob to graduate, but great smarts aren't always essential. A lot of very bright people graduate. So do a lot of very ordinary folks. You just don't want those to be your physician or attorney. (Edited for a typo. College did teach me to care about little things like that.) Edited by - alphadachs on 5/1/2011 1:58:51 AM [Link] |
| Kaminsky Deactivated User 272 Posts 4/11 | Posted - May 1 2011 : 2:54AM Degrees are a measure of education. They are a qualification. They are evidence of dedicated study. Acquisition of knowledge. For those saying it only takes perseverance to earn a degree... Perseverance is a very important quality and it is not easy to come by. It has to be cultivated. Earning a high-end degree shows you have cultivated it. Hard work, discipline, time management, organization. In my opinion that stuff is just as valuable as being "smart" I use again the example of Shy Love... Intelligence is defined as the ability to acquire knowledge and skills. She could not have earned master's degrees in accounting and taxation without having that ability. Her qualifications show she has a head for numbers. Detail, accuracy, understanding complicated finances, memorizing and applying protocol and policy. [Link] |
| Kaminsky Deactivated User 272 Posts 4/11 | Posted - May 1 2011 : 2:56AM Who would you want operating on you, a surgeon with a degree or a guy who says he taught himself surgery? [Link] |
| jtrott Deactivated User 5 Posts 4/11 | Posted - May 1 2011 : 4:00AM [Link] |
| jakejd4949 Senior Member 2938 Posts 8/06 | Posted - May 1 2011 : 7:20AM https://forum.adultdvdtalk.com/forum/topic.dlt/whichpage=1/topic_id=73759/forum_id=1/cat_id=1/73759.htm [Link] |
| Goodspeed Member Squirt Aficionado 697 Posts 3/09 | Posted - May 1 2011 : 7:40AM [Link] |
| WardqueenJanine Member 914 Posts 2/08 | Posted - May 1 2011 : 11:20AM [Link] |
| Draxxx Senior Member 3831 Posts 2/07 | Posted - May 1 2011 : 1:15PM [Link] |
| chrapladm Member 40 Posts 5/11 | Posted - May 1 2011 : 5:20PM I think it would be very hot for a performer who has intelligence, persues higher education in whatever field she wants and can hold a conversation with most about anything. I worked at a gentlemans club for a few years and there were a few girls there who had intelligence which amazed me. You would never knew the worke3d there outside the club. That was very attractive. I remember two of the girls I used to hang out with both just finished their law degrees. I thought that was awesome. Then there are the rest who just do nothing else but their job. I have nothing against those people but I doing find it gratifying that a star or performer is able to do her job and advance their knowledge. [Link] |
| Dave_K99 Member 497 Posts 12/07 | Posted - May 1 2011 : 8:58PM Maybe if you're talking about a PhD, where (at least in theory) you need to demonstrate originality and critical thinking, but it doesn't take much actual intelligence to work through a bachelor's degree. In the UK around 30% of adults have one, so they aren't really much of a status symbol these days. To me even something like a sense of humour is a more accurate measure of someone's intelligence than whether they sat through a few years of college. [Link] |
| angryassdrummer Member 559 Posts 3/11 | Posted - May 1 2011 : 9:31PM degrees arent a sign of intelligence, they are a piece of paper showing you stuck 4 years out at uni and remembered a certain % of info you had to. Creative thinking, coming up with new ideas whether it be business or otherwise takes more skill. For example, for all i know Jenna Jameson could of left school at 12 but the way she mad millions from porn was ingenius. No one had done it before her. Another example, tho non porn related, was our ( australia) former prime minister Paul Keating..he left school at 15 to be a band manager, went on to be finance minister then prime minister. He is as good with economics as anyone with a degree and it took it further than 99.9% of people who spent years at uni. Saying a degree is a sign of intelligence is a way of justifying your hefty college fee's. [Link] |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - May 1 2011 : 10:05PM I do agree there is some difference between intelligence and knowledge though. [Link] |
| Rosco Fuji Deactivated User On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09 | Posted - May 1 2011 : 11:00PM Secondly, it's been documented here on this site that Jenna wasn't the brains of the operation and that in fact it was her now ex-hubby Jay Grdina. Jenna was only the face in front of the brains. As far as Australia's Prime Minister is concerned; it's Australia, and secondly, there are exceptions to every rule, but it's just that, and exception and not the norm. [Link] |
| bellend Deactivated User 570 Posts 9/09 | Posted - May 1 2011 : 11:10PM Interview with Mika Tan Edited by - bellend on 5/1/2011 11:11:02 PM [Link] |
| alphadachs Member 475 Posts 3/10 | Posted - May 2 2011 : 1:41AM There are many interconnected factors floating around here: intelligence (for which one articulate poster gave a possible definition, though I would quibble there is a huge range of definitions and very little agreement on any of them), education, possession of a degree, perseverance, general savvy, and many other qualities all important in establishing one's intellectual standing or credibility. No one of them alone is sufficient to qualify one as "smartest pornstar" (or whatever), all contributory. I won't belittle someone without a degree nor necessarily respect one with a degree (absent any other grounds for admiration). I also don't want anyone to feel I was dissing them for their degrees. I simply exhibited myself as evidence that a degree doesn't confer any special significance. [Link] |
| alphadachs Member 475 Posts 3/10 | Posted - May 2 2011 : 1:58AM By the way, since both are identified as Drs, I assume Joe's Tire Care is accredited.  Edited by - alphadachs on 5/2/2011 2:11:56 AM Edited by - alphadachs on 5/2/2011 2:36:50 AM [Link] |
| alphadachs Member 475 Posts 3/10 | Posted - May 2 2011 : 1:57PM Perhaps I should note where I am coming from in this discussion. I taught at college for 25 years. I loved my students, but some of them (even many who were making their way through the system) weren't the highest watt bulbs; this in no way diminished by respect and admiration for them. They were there striving for a degree, and I was honored to try to help their efforts. Edited by - alphadachs on 5/2/2011 2:13:01 PM [Link] |
| ClayraBeau Member 659 Posts 2/10 | Posted - May 2 2011 : 2:07PM just my $.02 [Link] |
| Rosco Fuji Deactivated User On the licking stick, Mr. Magic Dick! 3309 Posts 2/09 | Posted - May 2 2011 : 4:11PM [Link] |
| Kaminsky Deactivated User 272 Posts 4/11 | Posted - May 3 2011 : 6:02AM I think there is a large portion of porn consumers who are excited by the idea that the females they are watching are degraded and desperate and lower class. The porn industry caters to this with the language on the box covers, mocking the girls and calling them "stupid whores" and so on. When these viewers are confronted by the reality that several of these performers have actually accomplished things in life, it ruins the fantasy. It bruises their ego. So they need an excuse so they can still feel superior to the people on the screen I am not trying to offend anyone in this thread, I am not trying to point fingers But I do think this attitude exists, perhaps on a subconscious level. It might sound like an old song & dance, but the truth is there really is a strong streak of misogyny in porn. It is undeniable. Just read a box cover of the White Trash Whore series for some examples [Link] |
| Kaminsky Deactivated User 272 Posts 4/11 | Posted - May 3 2011 : 6:09AM [Link] |
| Gore Gore Girl Doctor of the Erotic Arts 7238 Posts 1/09 | Posted - May 3 2011 : 2:36PM [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 3 2011 : 4:22PM [Link] |
| seedfeeder Member My balls are full, who's hungry? 716 Posts 4/09 | Posted - May 3 2011 : 4:23PM [Link] |
| Irish Caraway Member I like to fist girls. 274 Posts 7/05 | Posted - May 4 2011 : 2:19AM [Link] |
| Imperator Member 117 Posts 4/11 | Posted - May 4 2011 : 3:49AM The OP list is predictably Americano-centric. Where's Oksana D'Harcourt or the wonderful articulate Ovidie for example? Or the zillion Eastern European goddesses who took it up every imaginable orifice to pay for college? It was good to see Bridgette Monet mentioned above BTW. Imperator [Link] |
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