But just smoking on cancer sticks leaves me cold.

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Bob's also uses porn stars at times (although not near as often as I would like) and films "real" smokers, unlike Kick Ass Productions, which actually employs many non-smokers--timid puffs instead of deep inhales, give it away every time.

But these are smoke fetish films, which are available from a great many mail-order companies, and unfortunately feature smoking "overkill," and, as is the case of many breast implants--too much is too much!

Now, the female smoking film scenes I really enjoy in porn (but rarely see) are feature film scenarios, the way main-stream Hollywood has done for decades, with the cigarette being used as a highly-effective prop to accentuate a particular character role, such as the classic, femme-falale, "bad girl" magery

Here, the natural aspect of a beautiful woman smoking her cigarette, can be extremely stimulating, especially in an adult film setting, where the "baddest" of the bad girls reign.

Thus, filmed sensual smoking, could be effective both as a provacative set-up to the sexual action to follow, and even, the most natural of all "light-ups,"the after-sex relaxation smoke--something every lady I've ever known, enjoys, and which unfortunately, I have only seen one time in an adult fim scenario---"Turning Point," featuring Sydnee Steele.

The above type scene, seldom occurs, however, in adult films today, where one more often sees lollipops, not cigarettes, dangling from female lips.

Another highly efective showcase for the natural aspect of female smoking scenes, could be in behind the scene cast interviews, or the filming of various women relaxing between scenes.

I really thought, gonzo dvds, having less of a plot or script, would be a perfect genre, where the millions (yes millions) of we men who get a sexual "kick" seeing attractive, shapely women smoking cigarettes, could be rewarded.

Unfortunately, however, even in gonzo, the smoking lamp is rarely lit.

Why? One might ask, does an industry, owing its very existence, to "bad girl imagery," seldom film one of that character's most blatant characteristics--smoking?

The answer to this is quite simple, and lies totally at the feet of Paul Fishbein, easily the most powerful individual in the adult film industry.

You see, Fishbein, the publisher of AVN, and a man whose personal sanitation habits, would make the late Howard Hughes proud, is an "avid" anti-smoker, and has installed himself as the Health Czar for the entire porn
industry.

Numerous, negative AVN film reviews, and editorials from past AVN magazines, "flamimg" (ironic?) various porn productions, having smoking scenes, will easily prove this fact.

Yes!, the "Fish," and his "minnion of minnows" at AVN, have, time and again, sabotaged smoking in porn films.

As a result, the vast majority of adult film producers and directors, not wanting to risk the wrath of bad AVN reviews (which could make or break their investment) and anxious for a "piece of the pie," come awards night, "kow-tow," to Potentate Paul's health edicts, regarding smoking.

Fishbein's armor, however, is starting to "chink," for, his strong stance against "bare backs," condomless sex scenes, has, in recent months, been replaced by a "condom optional," policy---too many folks, including yours truly, didn't care for our "fantasy world," being jerked back to reality by the aids spectre, and sagging porn sales revenue reflected that sentiment.

Then too, common sense prevailed over Fishbein's ignorance, in a profession, whose employees are more highly health tested than any work force on the planet!

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I only have one Kick Ass Productions dvd. Not bad but not as good as Bob's.

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I have, however, been able to convince a few adut video stores in my area to purchase Bob's merchandise and thus, I can rent instead of buy.

What really surprised the store owners, who bought Bob's smoking fetish tapes as a favor to me, is that they can't keep the dvds on their shelves.

As for the post to this forum, re the health/nuisance factor of smoking, I couldn't agree with you more. I don't smoke, nor have ever smoked a cigarette in my life, and just the smell of cigarette smoke when I'm eating (except pussy) nauseates and disgusts me.

But when it "cums" to the sexual aspect of seeing, or being around attractive, shapely women smoking, especially (for me) those feminine brand, long all-white cigarettes--so perfectly shaped for a woman's sensual lips and hands-- then, all those negatives fly out the window.

For, in the case of those of us truly afflicted with "smokeitis," just the sight of a gorgeous woman "lighting up," can be a sexual turn-on.

A "turn-on," as I stated earlier, I have been trying, without success, to convince adult film producers and directors out there, to realize for some time now, unlike their main stream copunterparts, who have recognized this simple fact for decades.

Notice, I do not include the female porn stars in my efforts, for they already know the sexual magnetism of the smoking fetish, since they experience it every time they attempt to "light up" in one of the few public places left in America, and "watch those male moths descend."

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The smoking fetish, is growing in popularity now in leaps and bounds, due largely, I believe, to all the societal pressures against smoking in today's society.

I used to think that my, getting sexually aroused, just watching a beautiful, well-built woman light up a cigarette, was pretty weird, until the advent of the internet.

Then one day while surfing, I ran a search under "smoking," and was then led me to hundreds and hundreds of health sites against smoking.

This discouraged me a bit, but I decided to try again and typed in, "Smoking Fetish," and was "elated" to find every bit as many sites devoted to "Smoking Glamour," including all aspects of the smoking fetish, as well as several newsgroups and forums. Check out www.smokesigs.com and www.smokingfetishforumII.com, for example.

Ever since that night, I have continued to find more and more glamour smoking sites, and happily know now that, "I am not alone."

Its such a pity that none of the adult film directors and producers, have taken the time to research into our fetish.

If They did, we'd see cigarettes, not lollipops, dangling from the mouths of various female performers in adult film scenarios

As mentioned before in this thread, main-stream Hollywood, has long recognized the appeal and dynamics of female smoking screen character roles.

In fact, it was through those same Hollywood films, that many of we, smoke fetishist, first became "afflicted" with "smokeitis."--a physical condition, which causes a particular part of the male body to "swell" or enlarge, from the Ancient Greek, "itis," a swelling of--

Thus, as a result, one can find more women smoking on the Disney Channel, than in the typical adult film of today--what a sad indictment against an industry built on exploiting "bad girl imagery."

What is especially frustrating, is that while less than 10% of all adult films produced in 2005 and thusfar in 2006, contain scenes of women smoking, in well over 75% of those same adult films, some male performer, is filmed smoking--about as sexually exciting for me as watching grass grow.

I have tried to figure out some logical reason for this gender oddity and have come to the conclusion, that the men in porn are simply, by nature, more assertive than the women.

Thus, while the vast majority of adult film directors outlaw smoking on their sets, the men will say, "screw you," and light up anyway, in behind the scene segments, while the women (90% of whom are smokers) would not "dare" risk the ire of some porn set director.

Of course, as stated in a previous post re this thread topic, the directors dictate what the producers demand, and EVERY single producer of adult films today, knows all too well, Paul Fishbein's dictatorial, anti-smoking sentiments.

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It was Tory Lane in Service Animals 20, and it was unbelievably hot.

She would smoke do a blowjob in between puffs, blow the smoke in the guys face and everywhere else. Its great if its done in a teasing way and she was incredible at it.

If anybody likes smoking fetish I recommend you check out that scene.

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Perhaps, someday, many more adult film directors will understand the smoking fetish, and learn how to exploit its sexual magnetism, as well as how to accentuate very effectively, the cigarette prop and a woman's sensual smoking, to build on that "bad girl" character image, so deeply embedded in all porn films.

Then to, From an aesthetic aspect, a really good camera operator, and director should be able to create a very appealing picture, using the inherent sensuality of cigarette smoke swirling and enveloping a good-looking woman's (emphasis on WOMAN'S) face and body.

Yet, in reality, the vast majority of adult film directors, camera operators, and film editors (or "Idiotors," as they're called in the smoke fetish community) know very little about the fetish, and for a myriad of reasons, make absolutely no effort to learn.

Thus, as I've written countless times on countless adult forums and newsgoups, female cigarette smoking scenes, occur about as often on the Disney Channel!!!

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Because of the price competition in NYC you're likely to get a better price on specialty tapes in the stores there than you would direct from the manufacturer. For example, Lezlove Video is now distributing to stores in NYC and those stores are retailing some of that product at less than the LLV website's price.

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Another movie where the girls smoke while giving blowjobs is the movie Smoke & Suck from Old Pueblo.

Personally, I like the series Smokin' Blowjobs from Bouncy the best.

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Btw, I wonder if we ever had a thread about female pornstars who smoke in real life. Would be very interesting to know this.

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All kidding aside, I'm pretty sure a lot of pornstars live a healthy life and don't smoke, I know some girls who Kulkis used for Smokin' for example also didn't smoke in real life and they just did it for the movie.

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You could tell in Endicott's "Smokin Blowjobs" that alot of the girls probably don't smoke in real life because the drags they took were pathetic, to say the least. Why didn't he just hire girls who were real-life smokers? It would have made it so much better.

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Bob's girls take long, deep drags and then play with the smoke in their mouths, blowing it over the guy's balls, taking the cock all the way down while holding the smoke in their mouths, etc. They also smoke alot more frequently and actually finish the cigarettes/cigars.

In Ty's films, either hardly any smoke is present or it is simply blown over the cock or to the side.

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I say frustration, because the overwhelming majority of porn directors and producers, out there, neither understand, nor give a "hoot," when it comes to the smoking fetish, as evidenced by the sad (for we smoke fetishist) fact that much less than 10% of all the adult films produced today, contain scenarios, incorporating women smoking cigarettes. I stress cigarettes here, because to the "purist" smoke fetishist, (the vast majority of us) cigar smoking women, are more comical, than sexy.

According to adult film directors Bud Lee and Paul Thomas, who, in recent years, have completely abandoned the smoking fetish, "trying to get these gals to learn dialogue, is enough of a challenge, even more so, adding a cigarette to the scene."----duh!!
never heard of voice overlays??

Another obstacle to smoking scenarios in porn, is the stringent fire code, adopted throughout CaliNOFUNia, which outlaws smoking in public buildings, even night clubs and bars-- again this, according to several adult film directors, I've contacted and who apparently never thought of filming female smoking scenes, in patios, gardens,parking lots, and so many other outdoor areas, around various film sets.

Even in filmed scenes, inside automobiles, where it would be "so natural" for the lady to light up a cigarette, (just check out the women smoking in autos across the country)-- NADA!

I stress, the lack of women smoking, in porn, to contrast with the men, where smoking scenes are frequent and, for me, not the least bit erotic, or desired.

Apparently, many of the men, are quick to tell any "controlling," or over-bearing director to "shove it," while the more docile female porn stars, "cower" before anti-smoking edicts,--That's the only thing I can figure??

One of the posts to this thread, states something to the effect, that a lot of female porn stars are probably too health conscious to be smokers in real life???

NOTHING, could be farther from the truth, for, while, there are a lot of ladies, in porn, who workout, and are careful with their diet, they (as practically all fashion models, strippers, and many main-stream movie stars) smoke to keep weight down, and to relieve stress from their jobs.

As farther proof, over the years, I have had the distinct pleasure of visiting, one-on-one, with quite a few female porn stars, between feature dance sets at various clubs in my area, and while I found practically all of these ladies to be quite personable and engaging, I would have an extremely hard time recalling ANY who were not smokers--Nina Hartley, is the ONLY one who comes to mind, as I write this FRUSTRATING diatribe against the adult film industry's producers and directors, who consistently ignore our smoking fetish.

ESPECIALLY galling to me, is that, while the huge, and ever-growing "smokerhood," (a coined term for our brotherhood of smoke fetishist), is largely ignored, by porn's 'movers and shakers," they have openly embraced, what I call the "afeetchewonatoes,"crowd, with both gonzo and feature films, often incorporating foot munching scenes, which, to me, conjure, not eroticism, but images of hoof and mouth disease!!

Now, immediately, our fetish detractors will retort with images of blackened lungs, and, something I've yet to see in ANY female porn scene, a woman smoking, with yellow, rotting teeth.

As a non-smoker myself,the sight of ANY man, or especially, a slovenly, unattractive woman, smoking a cigarette, is not the least bit appealing, BUT!!,nestle that same cigarette, between the lips of a beautiful, well-built woman, especially some porn star, where that "bad girl" image is especially validated, and I (as ALL of our smokerhood) can't, and don't want to, take our eyes away from her.

So, again, in answer to the earlier post-- YES! the women of porn today (except for very few) are smokers in their personal life, but almost never in their filmed life, and the reason for this, according to practically every lady, with whom I've visited re this "dearth," is that, most directors, outlaw smoking on their sets.

But, here is another "kicker" and GET THIS!! a number of adult film producers, (kow-towing to anti-smoking activist, and the industry's self-proclaimed Health Czar, Paul Fishbein of AVN ("Payola Paul," he's called in porn's "inner circles) have even "ordered" their directors to avoid incorporating smoking scenes, within their films!!!

Skeeter and Bridget Kerkove, whose productions at one time, really "catered" to the smoking fetish (Skeeter, a smoke fetishist, himself, and one of two adult film directors out there, who understands our fetish--Joey Silvera, the other) are two such examples.

To be perfectly honest, a few main-stream adult film companies have attempted smoking fetish thematic approaches in the past, notably Kick Ass Productions, and just recently, Hustler, but, in BOTH cases, they made (to we fetishist) the unpardonable sin of using performers, who were not even smokers in their personal life, and in the case of Rod Fontana and Hustler, selecting some of the least attractive porners in the business to perform--thereby removing one of the essentials of the fetish--SMOKING GLAMOUR, something main-stream,(but not porn) Hollywood directors have recognized for decades.

Thus, it is then, my forlorn conclusion, that female smoking, will steadily decrease, from adult (NOT main-stream), films, with each passing month, until finally, the filmed scenario sight, of a sexy, well-built female porn star, dangling a cigarette, between her luscious, red lips, will be as rare as Dubya, making just ONE CORRECT decision from his "stolen" oval office!!!!

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