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danl Member 436 Posts 3/05	Posted - Mar 28 2005 : 2:44AM Being a smoke fetishist since puberty, it never ceases to frustrate me, that we have a better chance, of satisfying our sexual "urge," to see attractive women smoking cigarettes, on the Disney channel, than in adult films! Its been that way, for as long as I can remember, but especially, in the last decade, or so, since anti-smoking activists, began a campaign to stomp out cigarettes all over this country. I can understand, eradicating smoking in restaurants, where to a great many people, including myself, the smell of cigarette smoke, while eating, can cause nausea. But, to carry anti-smoking ordinances into bars and night clubs, is absolutely ludricous. So, also, is the almost complete elimination of female smoking scenes, in adult films. For, here, is an industry, which owes its very existence to the exploitaion of bad girl imagery, and sexual promiscuity. Main-stream Hollywood film directors and producers, have literally launched careers over the years, with scenes of sexy, and gorgeous women, smoking cigarettes. In fact, a few months ago, TV Guide, put out an edition, featuring Hollywood's "sexiest movie moments," and it amazed even me, how many scenes, utilized the cigarette prop, to accentuate that sexuality. Remember, Lauren Bacall's, "you know how to whistle, don't you Steve?, Anne Bancroft's seduction of Dustin Hoffman, and Sharon Stone's police interrogation, crossing legs scenario? Now, in contrast, try and think of more than one sexy female smoking scene in an adult film? I say, more than one, because, I do recall One, the, "do you mind if I smoke, while you eat," scenario, from "Deep Throat, filmed, however, more for comedy effect than sexuality. This, is the point, I'm attempting to make. Unlike main stream films, where the cigarette, has always been utilized as a valuable tool to develop, and accentuate a particular sexy female character role, the adult genre, almost NEVER, uses this technique. Instead, the very few smoking scenes in porn, for some reason, have to be "written in," to fit the entire script. For example, what could have been some extremely sexy cigarette smoking scenarios by Serenity in "M Caught In The Act," was turned instead, into a comic parody. Now, what adult film directors and producers, need to reaize, is that our "smokerhood," the coined word for our brotherhood of smoke fetishist, is a huge, and ever-growing (thanx. especially to "social correctness," pressures, in America, today) group, which has all but abandoned the porn industry, for the reasons stated above. Instead, most smoke fetishist, have turned to the "thousands" of smokerhood web sites, where all aspects of our fetish, are satisfied. To be perfectly honest, I thought that my getting a "boner" (which can prove embarrasing at times, btw) just in seeing an attractive, well-built woman, smoking a cigarette, either in public or in films/pictures, was very "weird," until my shared experiences on internet newsgroups. But, and sadly for me, and "millions" of other men, we don't have to worry about that "embarrassment," when it comes to porn. And, Now, "comes the deluge," from the anti-smoking health/nusiance crowd. Topic Moved by - Bill on Apr 1 2005 [Link]
DenverDon Benevolent Firmly Embedded in Depravity 5914 Posts 7/02	Posted - Mar 28 2005 : 3:30AM Time! They ae busy hiding the sausage. DenverDon <<<<[[[[ [Link]
Joey Starr Senior Member Still wanking after all these years. 8082 Posts 10/00	Posted - Mar 28 2005 : 3:36AM There seem to be quite a few actually here's the smoking category at Adult DVD Empire. [Link]
croy Platinum Member Discovry 4574 Posts 3/04	Posted - Mar 28 2005 : 3:47AM Because it is unhealthy. In porn they do not like to show behavior that has potentially negative effects on your health. Safety first. Edited by - croy on 3/28/2005 3:49:44 AM [Link]
vodka tonic coolest cucumber who 1243 Posts 11/02	Posted - Mar 28 2005 : 6:15AM croy wrote: Because it is unhealthy. In porn they do not like to show behavior that has potentially negative effects on your health. Safety first. Click to expand Croy, was this meant to be ironic ? [Link]

Cumwhipper Senior Member 4050 Posts 3/04	Posted - Mar 28 2005 : 7:08AM I just rented Smokin' POV #3 and was pleasantly surprised. Lots of good production values, hot girls (Avena Lee, Nautica, Kacey - woohoo!) and VERY well captured, extended tease segments. The scenes are all cookie-cutter - exact same dialog, positions, etc., but if you like the smoking fetish, it's definitely worth checking out [Link]
Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04	Posted - Mar 28 2005 : 7:51AM I remember one of Skeeter's movies, where in the tease scenes all the girls were smoking, but I can't think of the name right now. Jacco (Your Choice BV) [Link]
PL Senior Member God hates us all, you know it's true, God hates this place. - Slayer 1726 Posts 10/03	Posted - Mar 28 2005 : 8:36AM jacco wrote: I remember one of Skeeter's movies, where in the tease scenes all the girls were smoking, but I can't think of the name right now. Jacco (Your Choice BV) Click to expand There was smoking in all the tease scenes of 'Shitty Shitty Bang Bang'. [Link]
RLD Fiend Member Cincinnati, O. 665 Posts 10/04	Posted - Mar 28 2005 : 10:17AM jacco wrote: I remember one of Skeeter's movies, where in the tease scenes all the girls were smoking, but I can't think of the name right now. Jacco (Your Choice BV) Click to expand Probably "Sodomy: Law of the Land." Every girl in that one smokes in her tease sequence. [Link]
danl Member 436 Posts 3/05	Posted - Mar 28 2005 : 7:55PM Judging by some of the replies to my "frustration," there appears to be a misconception, as to just "what," I am requesting. Thus, I will attempt again, to lay out my concern. To be sure, Skeeter and Bridget Kerkove, understand our fetish, and their film efforts have proven to be one of the very few, "wet" areas in the "desert" that is porn, when it comes to satisfying my smokerhood brother's "thrist," to see sexy women smoke. Another poster, mentions Ty Endicott's special series, which also, exploits our fetish. Unfortunately, however, gonzo films, are not what really "charges" my battery, for, I first became a smoke fetishist, from a plethera of sexy "femme fatale" Hollywood actresses in scripted plot-driven film noir style productions. Here, is where, the adult film industry, has let us down. For, I have seen "countless" porn films, with that sexy style of female character roles, over the years, but "rarely," in porn has that dangling cigarette, from a woman's luscious lips (reference, Ava Gardner, Lana Turner, Rita Hayworth, Rhonda Fleming, Susan Hayward, Suzanne Pleshette, Sharon Stone, Kathleen Turner, Nicole Kidman, ad infinetem) been integrated, to develop that character, the way main-stream Hollywood directors have done for decades. I have my own theory, why the cigarette, is so rare in adult feature films, and that is the lack of expertise by so many porn directors, to incorporate the burning down of the cigarette during "botched" dialogue retakes. Thus, what should be an integral part of a particular female character's personna (her smoking) is eliminated. Apparently, most porn directors, "never advanced far enough in film classes to learn about the use of voice overlays. Since, I first became enamored with sexy women smoking, from those Hollywood film characters many years ago, and, of course, stag films (called "smokers," btw) I naturally, thought, that when the adult film industry came out of the closet, so to speak, cigarette smoking, would be a central part of the "bad girl" imagery, which porn sought to exploit. Little did I realize, however, that female cigarette smoking scenarios in adult films, would instead, be "shackled" by political correctness and inept directors. [Link]
Jacco All-Star Member "liable to deprave and corrupt" 2673 Posts 5/04	Posted - Mar 28 2005 : 8:05PM RLD Fiend wrote: jacco wrote: I remember one of Skeeter's movies, where in the tease scenes all the girls were smoking, but I can't think of the name right now. Jacco (Your Choice BV) Click to expand Probably "Sodomy: Law of the Land." Every girl in that one smokes in her tease sequence. Click to expand Yep, that was the one I meant. Jacco (Your Choice BV) [Link]
croy Platinum Member Discovry 4574 Posts 3/04	Posted - Mar 28 2005 : 10:03PM vodka tonic wrote: Click to expand Everything I know about health, I learned from porn. [Link]
Dirty Dan Member 65 Posts 8/03	Posted - Mar 30 2005 : 10:41PM Danl, being a smoking fetishist myself,I understand your frustration. If you want to see some erotic smoking in porn, your best bet is check out classics. Back in the 70's/early 80's, porn movies were all features and there were some very erotic smoking scenes. Three erotic smokers that come to mind were Vanessa del Rio, Samantha Fox and Georgina Spelvin. In the late 80's, a beautiful young smoker named Tori Welles had some erotic scenes. From the 90's, there was Jeanna Fine and Ashlyn Gere. Jeanna Fine smoked in several of her movies and was a very erotic smoker. One I remember was a Jenna Jameson feature called "Hard Evidence". The best of the current group is Sydnee Steele. Check out a feature titled "Turning Point". [Link]
XrickyromaX Member 449 Posts 2/05	Posted - Mar 30 2005 : 11:18PM Me, I hate smoking. But I love paragraph breaks. [Link]
Bill All-Star Member 5334 Posts 6/00	Posted - Mar 30 2005 : 11:27PM XrickyromaX wrote: Me, I hate smoking. But I love paragraph breaks. Click to expand Amen to both. [Link]

Flash Golden Age Classic 11018 Posts 5/01	Posted - Mar 30 2005 : 11:52PM Marie Madison Media has put out Smoke Junkies and Smoke Junkies 2. [Link]
danl Member 436 Posts 3/05	Posted - Apr 1 2005 : 4:55AM Dirty Dan: Thanx. I appreciate your feedback suggestions and support.......I have, indeed seen, all of the films you mention, and agree, Jeanna Fine, Vanessa Del Rio, Seka, and Tori Welles, were classic, sexy smokers, as well as Sydnee Steele, perhaps the sexiest of them all............... "Betting On Flesh," is one of my very favorite feature type films, and it stars Sydnee, smoking, those long feminine brand cigarettes, which I find, especially sexy, dangling from an attractive lady's lips... ......I would also point out, another of my favorite, classy smokers, Dyanna Lauren. If you haven't seen "Bad Wives," a Paul Thomas feature from the early 90's, you've got to get the dvd release, Vivid recently put out......... A year or so ago, a company, called Wave, released a watered-down version (cut 77 minutes out of the original, and replaced it with several scenes from various movies) and it was "horrible." Vivid's production, however, brought back those "lost" minutes, and the result, is one of my very favorite feature films, a great story line, explosive sex, and YES!, lots of smoking........Another, classic feature film, with multiple sexy smoking scenes by Crystal Wilder, is "Wilder At Heart." WOW!, is my only response........I agree, Hard Evidence," is a great film for our fetish, and Jeanna Fine, another of my favs, and one of porn's greatest true, and few, thespians, was terrific. I would also point you toward, "Razors Edge, featuring the "fine ms Fine," and "Silk Stalkings," a Tiffany Million, smoking joy...........The great thing, about "all" of these films, in addition to their smoking sexuality, is the sheer enjoyment, of watching them, for their entertainment value, alone...........Needless to say, I would love to see a return to that period in porn, before gonzo, when adult film directors, went that "extra mile," to turn out, films, which stimulatd, both ends of a man's body, "cane" and brain. .............periods are paragraph breaks.....Dirty, thanx again, and hope this film list helps you. You might, also check out, The Smoking Fetish Forum II. It, is one of my favorite internet sites, to appreciate, all facets of our fetish, as well as www.ronandrews.com, who has listed, under various categories, over a "thousand" fetish sites for our smokerhood. [Link]
bb Member 11 Posts 1/05	Posted - Apr 1 2005 : 7:03AM While I'm sure there are people turned on by smoking scenes, I have to point out that there are people like me who are turned off by smoking. There is nothing worse for me than to see a beautiful woman bring a cigarette to her lips. Yuck. And smoker's breath - even worse. [Link]
saratoga120 Senior Member 1404 Posts 5/05	Posted - May 11 2005 : 12:47AM Smoking. Very erotic, yes! Naughty girls become naughty the moment they bring a cigarette to their lips for the first time. Think back to Junior High School. The girls who smoked on the bus, in back of the school, in the little ladies room . . . always the girls you wanted to rush you into puberty! Though smoking seems to be rare in porno, it might not be. Do a search at IAFD in the text reviews section on "smoking" or "cigarette" and you'll be blown away by the number of citations. Among the most sensuously divine smokers I've noticed would be the incomparable Venus, Roxanne Hall, Veronica Hart, Tara Aire, Samantha Fox (ibid), Seka, Gauge, Erica Boyer, Krista Lane, Ashlyn Gere, Laurie Smith, Shauna Grant, Cher Delight, Ginger Lynn, Crystal Wilder (ibid), Tiffany Clark, Anna Ventura, Anita Blonde, Bridgette Kerkove (ibid), Dyanna Lauren (ibid), Asia Carrera, Lisa Ann, Paula Price, Taylor Wane, Regan Starr, Kandi Barbour, Avalon, Taylor St. Claire, Susan McBain, Gina Carrera, Crystal Breeze, Lee Carroll, Jennifer Jordan, Nikki Knight, Chelsea Blue, Gabriella, Melissa Melendez and Sue Richards. And this list doesn't even touch on the hotties of today, as I'm something of a golden age aficianado. But make no mistake. Watch a woman smoke and you can read volumes about her sexuality. The most obvious manifestation of smoking's sexuality is simply the way women hold their cigarettes. Men, properly, hold down by their side as if trying to hide the fact that they're doing something effeminate. Ladies, on the other hand, hold their cigarettes proudly high in the air, elbow bent, by their faces. And when they put them to their mouths . . . oh my. Watch their sumptuous lips in action. Note the outline of their jaws as they jut forward to take a good suck. Admire their grace as they tilt their heads to send their exhales skyward. The tiny little aspects of smoking erotically are manifold. Isn't it wonderful when pornstars get it? [Link]
scipio Senior Member 1901 Posts 2/00	Posted - May 11 2005 : 2:44AM Hi danl and welcome to ADT. While we're not going to enforce things like paragraph breaks (well, I'm not), the lack of them in your writing makes it hard as hell to read, and speaking on a purely personal level, if you don't care enough about your own writing to press enter twice to make the content easy to read, then I don't care enough about what you wrote to struggle through a huge block of text to read it. You might also note that pressing enter twice takes less effort then pressing the spacebar a few times, which you only bothered to do in the third post. scipio [Link]
astroknight Questionable Moderator Tastes so good... 4187 Posts 11/99	Posted - May 11 2005 : 9:09AM Nope, I couldn't make it past the second line in any of Danl's posts. I'm guessing he'd like some smoke fetish recommendations, so I'll second Flash's suggestion on Marie Madison's Smoke Junkies movies. The second one is much more oriented towards smoke fetishists IIRC, but the first one completely blew me away and is probably in the top ten for movies I've watched so far this year. "Vegetarianism for me is about saying ‘yes’ to things - even meat." - Coupling [Link]
DenverDon Benevolent Firmly Embedded in Depravity 5914 Posts 7/02	Posted - May 11 2005 : 9:23AM Dani has a keyboard problem and the best he can manage is a row of periods. DenverDon <<<<[[[[ [Link]
barrettman Member In the sad town, cold iron hands clap the party of clowns outside . 251 Posts 4/04	Posted - May 11 2005 : 1:41PM Bob's videos has a bunch of smoking/nylons vids http://www.bobsvideos.com/faq.html [Link]
Tinaka Member 953 Posts 8/03	Posted - May 11 2005 : 2:47PM The girls don't want their family to know they smoke. Seriously, i think Steve Holmes has posted this before. [Link]
bennyprofane1973 Pirate Booty 55 Posts 12/04	Posted - May 11 2005 : 4:03PM Nothin' wrong with Ty Endicott's videos. I never even realized I had a smoke fetish until I watched the smokin' p.o.v. series. [Link]

Ryan Knox Performer 170 Posts 5/05	Posted - May 11 2005 : 5:28PM Joe Camel taking up porn? I love watching cartoons and humans going at it! It's the best of all interspecies porn. Edited by - ryan knox on 5/11/2005 6:01:10 PM [Link]
RLD Fiend Member Cincinnati, O. 665 Posts 10/04	Posted - May 11 2005 : 5:38PM Pretty much everything, I think, from Ty Endicott's new studio Bouncy has smoking in it. There's only a couple reviews up on ADT though. I saw "My VIrtual Cheerleader Jackie" the other day and there's smoking throughout. Click on beautiful Taylor Rain for great porn reviews! [Link]
Ryan Knox Performer 170 Posts 5/05	Posted - May 11 2005 : 5:53PM We wouldn't want our youth watching porn and getting the idea to take up smoking would we? Porn is meant to improve and mold and shape our youth! [Link]
Ryan Knox Performer 170 Posts 5/05	Posted - May 11 2005 : 5:55PM Check out "Anal Expedition 2," from Platinum X Pictures. Steve Holmes, Julie Night and Ashley who? do a scene together involing a smoking cigar! Edited by - ryan knox on 5/11/2005 5:59:08 PM [Link]
Tinaka Member 953 Posts 8/03	Posted - May 11 2005 : 7:28PM Calli Cox smoking in Service Animals 2 was hot. [Link]
Roxetta Member 55 Posts 5/05	Posted - May 12 2005 : 1:36AM croy wrote: Because it is unhealthy. In porn they do not like to show behavior that has potentially negative effects on your health. Safety first. Edited by - croy on 3/28/2005 3:49:44 AM Click to expand Croy, you are too funny! Smoking is dangerous, But shoving a baseball bat in your ass is okay? Yeah, I know, most of us are loons anyway. I actually think smoking is sort of sexy, don't you? [Link]
LadyB Black and Blue, USA 161 Posts 2/05	Posted - May 12 2005 : 2:14AM danl - are you looking for actual, hardcore porn, or are you seeking fetish videos? Sorry, I'm trying to read all of it to find that out, but having a little trouble between what you're asking about and what your fetish is talking about. If you're seeking fetish videos, then I may have a resource for you to check out. They aren't hardcore sex filled, but they are lovely. [Link]
jcjoe Deactivated User vicariousville 1 Posts 5/05	Posted - May 12 2005 : 7:27AM Very well stated danl (although a bit wordy) I share with you, the frustration re the fact, that some kind of health faction, "shackles" women from smoking, in adult films, today. What I have never understood, however, is why, those same taboos, don't apply to the men?----------- An attractive lady smoking, either in real life, or on film, projects a powerful oral stimulus, for I "love" to see, a woman's lips, inhaling deeply on a freshly-lit cigarette, and "vicariously" imagine, those same, sexy lips, wrapped around, my "special" male appendage.-------------------------- If I read, danl correctly, all he is asking, is that porn directors, develop, filmed scenes, showing sexy porn stars, smoking cigarettes, in the portrayal of some female character role, much like regular Hollywood movies, have done, as long as I can remember.------------------ Then, to see, that same, female character, later, in an explicit sex scene, "enhances" the oral image stimuli, which we smoke fetishist, share. I, as well as "millions" of men, "turned on" by attracive women, who smoke cigarettes, do not think, that is asking too much------------- Also, fyi, we who use the webtv system (as danl and I) can not space paragraphs, to a true computer format. It is neither stupidity, nor a lack of energy on our part. Thus, the "best" we can do, is to include some kind of "break" to signify, a new paragraph----------------------- Please, accept my apology for this inconvenience, in reading, these thoughts. [Link]
DenverDon Benevolent Firmly Embedded in Depravity 5914 Posts 7/02	Posted - May 12 2005 : 8:07AM jcjoe, Don't log in to answer yourself (Dani). Webtv and can't make paragraphs? Crap. We have one member that has been using webtv for years, made several thousand posts, and has submitted hundreds of reviews. They have no problem making paragraphs and breaking up the text. btw, my sister also has webtv and she has no problems either making paragraphs and breaks. [Link]
ReneeRichards New Member 3 Posts 4/05	Posted - May 12 2005 : 10:32AM Danl, check out "sex and cocktails" the new film from poppy morgan productions via rude britannia (UK). It has lots of smokign in it, and lots of dirty sex.. with me smoking too!! xxx [Link]

scipio Senior Member 1901 Posts 2/00	Posted - May 12 2005 : 12:20PM DenverDon wrote: Dani has a keyboard problem and the best he can manage is a row of periods. DenverDon Click to expand Bastard! making me struggle through that block! Thanks for the link though, the thread itself was a great read! Though I notice that Danl also said he has a quite decent computer as well. While I know nothing about WebTV, I'd have imagined that most dialup or broadband services would have some provision to hook up your computer to them as an alternative when you want to? ah well, scipio Edited by - scipio on 5/12/2005 12:28:11 PM [Link]
Michael Ryan Member Switzerland 36 Posts 5/05	Posted - Jun 1 2005 : 6:34AM That's a good idea to get some more smokin' stuff in movies - I will do it in my next productions... ;) Check out the hottest girls: michaelryan.tv [Link]

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