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realphatasslover
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Posted - Jul 5 2021 : 5:17AM
Does anyone know if there any current pornstars or have there ever been to officially declare themselves a snowbunny? Seems like girls wanting to only be with black guys is becoming a popular thing in certain circles now. I feel like this would be an interesting game changing move if a popular pornstar woman were to choose it. Insight? Thoughts?
pat362
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^Can you name those performers that only want to work with black male performers? If you can't then I call B.S on your statement.
rearadmiral All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jul 5 2021 : 4:15PM
I've never heard that term used in this context before. I learned something new today.
manololx
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Posted - Jul 5 2021 : 4:45PM
It's not a popular thing now, same way there are women that prefer white men, there are those who prefer black men. It's perfectly valid, but calling themselves "snowbunnies" just gives it a racially charged, and very weird, connotation.

No big performer is that, although I'm sure many prefer black men, same as many prefer white men. You can find specific, smaller performers, that cater to that fetish tho.

pat362
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Posted - Jul 5 2021 : 7:10PM
^All right then please name those performers who only want to work with black male performers or your statement is also going to be tagged as B.S.
 
realphatasslover
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Posted - Jul 6 2021 : 4:47AM
Pat, my first sentence is a question. You can't "call bs" on a question. that doesn't make sense. My second sentence starts off with "seems like" (this infers that I am observing something and from my perspective things look a certain way) and then continues as a statement and ends with "in certain circles". I can tell you and manoloix why things seem like that to me if you're interested but I can't name performers or else I wouldn't have asked that as my first question! My third sentence was an opinion and I stand by that opinion. Snowbunnies are a thing, I didn't make them up in my mind. There are tattoos that women have that mean they only fuck black guys. There is merchandise that women wear that means the same thing. Y'all are slow, I get it. I "call bs" on your intelligence
AngryPirate
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Posted - Jul 6 2021 : 10:14AM
^ Was Pat actually denying snow bunnies exist or was he calling BS on them being in porn? Anyone can play to the camera in porn so claims to "officially declare" oneself as a snow bunny may need to be taken with a grain of salt.

Spring Thomas for example had been marketed heavily as one thought I'm not aware of a certified declaration that she has or had a hardline favouring black guys, especially as she had worked with white men.

rearadmiral All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jul 6 2021 : 11:39AM
^ Good call on Spring Thomas. While it was certainly her schtick on the site I would take with a large grain of salt that this was her preference. One of my favourite scenes on her site was when she announced her engagement to a "Christian white boy" and showed of a ring and then proceeded to do some nasty stuff with one or more Black guys. But there is this thing called 'acting' too.
AngryPirate
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Posted - Jul 6 2021 : 1:47PM
^ See the sentence I mentioned before Spring Thomas.
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Posted - Jul 6 2021 : 3:03PM
^ Yup. I was channeling that thought of yours too.

Unless you're suggesting that every porn star who says she loves big cocks deep in her ass and swallowing martini glasses full of cum isn't telling the truth. Surely you're not saying that, Angry? I've always trusted your opinion here!

pat362
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Posted - Jul 6 2021 : 6:18PM
While I appreciate your trying to explain yourself. I still haven't seen your list of performers that say they prefer to only work with black male performers. If you can't give me names then this thread is a B.S thread because it's not based on reality.
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Posted - Jul 6 2021 : 6:26PM
^ Pat you're missing the point. He never said there are any performers who do this.

He asked if there are any performers who do this. He's looking to find out if any such performers exist.

pat362
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Posted - Jul 6 2021 : 6:37PM
Thank You AP. As far as I can tell Spring is the only performer that(except for a couple of videos) only worked with black male performers during her time in the industry. Granted I believe she was a Dogfart contracted performer who could only work with black male performers but it doesn't change the fact that she only worked with black performers. I don't believe she ever claimed to only want to work with black male performers but that's neither here nor there since the end result is that she only worked with black male performers. I guess you could call her a technical snowbunny.

That's one out of thousands so not exactly what I would describe as a popular movement.

pat362
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Posted - Jul 6 2021 : 6:42PM
Isn't asking the question with the premise that it's becoming popular sort of imply that there would be a certain number of performers that do and while I don't claim to know all the performers that have worked in the industry. I don't believe that we will find more than a couple who more or less only worked with black male performers and none in recent years.
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Posted - Jul 6 2021 : 6:49PM
What is "Game Changing" about a performer calling themselves a "snowbunny"?
 
austfan
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Posted - Jul 6 2021 : 7:53PM
If you are referring to QoS. then there are many stars who declared themsleves.
pat362
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Posted - Jul 6 2021 : 11:14PM
^Sorry but what is QoS?
realphatasslover
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Posted - Jul 7 2021 : 12:09AM
Qos means Quen of spades, aka a woman who only fucks black guys. When a woman has this ♠️ tattooed on her body that's what it means
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rearadmiral All-Star Supporter
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This thread is teaching me a lot. Up until now, I thought that a snowbunny was an attractive young woman on a ski hill. I recall reading the thread on Queen of Spades tattoos and not having the slightest clue what the tattoo or the thread was about.

I'll file both away in my brain for future reference.

bumblaster
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Posted - Jul 7 2021 : 8:43AM
To answer your question: hopefully not and I have not heard of any performer calling themselves that.

The only time I've heard of this was with suitcase pimps.

The term is, in my opinion, weird and gross.

rearadmiral All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jul 7 2021 : 11:37AM
^ And surely I'm not the only person here who thinks the term "Queen of Spades" is racist. And no, I'm not some 'woke' snowflake.
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Posted - Jul 7 2021 : 1:36PM
^agreed, pretty gross also.
Mike Hawk CEO Dixon Cider
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Posted - Aug 4 2021 : 8:12PM
I'll bite. Why do you feel it's racist? Her intent is clearly in no way being racist and is quite the opposite. And, I'm sure every guy that approached her and got laid probably wasn't offended either.
austfan
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Posted - Oct 12 2021 : 7:07PM
My top 5 QOS adulstars at the moment in the order of performance

1. Lady Anaconda
2. Cassie Bender
3. Monica Santiago
4. Janet Mason
5. Adreena Winters

 
1976
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^ none of them are snow bunnies though
WillCle216
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Posted - Oct 12 2021 : 9:46PM
are any of these women mainstream pornstars? Look like all of them are amateurs or swingers.
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Posted - Oct 12 2021 : 10:02PM
Not every black man wants to be part of some white guy's fantasy. Yes, some do get off on that and into being used like that but not all black men are not into race play.
Again, porn isn't real.
1976
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Posted - Oct 12 2021 : 10:16PM
Exactly my point.
austfan
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Posted - Oct 12 2021 : 10:51PM
All are established in their work. Most of them previously mainstream adultstars, Check out their work
1976
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Posted - Oct 13 2021 : 12:48PM
^ not really.
Psilencer
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Posted - Oct 13 2021 : 3:45PM
"Spade" is a term racists use toward black people. Not as popular these days as it once was, but clearly the term "Queen of Spades" is based on that.

Psilencer
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Posted - Oct 13 2021 : 3:47PM
There is a relatively new performer named Riley Reign who says she will only do scenes with black guys. We'll see how long that lasts lol. But I don't know if she's ever officially called herself a snowbunny.

Also it's interesting how porn gives its own meaning to words lol. "Interracial" means non-black performers doing scenes with black performers somehow, instead of just scenes with people of different races, an asian and white person for example. "Snowbunnies" outside of porn is just slang for white girls in general, not white girls who only prefer black guys.

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Posted - Oct 13 2021 : 4:04PM
The reality is that it's probably narrower than that even. "Interracial" seems to mean Black guys with white women. The occasional Asian maybe...
Molasseslime
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Posted - Oct 13 2021 : 7:07PM
I'm not sure if you're asking if these pornstars ever publicly state their preference for black men or they go out of their way to shoot exclusively with black males. The latter is extremely uncommon because that would result in them losing a lot of money. The only pornstar I know of like that is Spring Thomas and this new Riley Reign girl who I don't expect to do IR exclusively forever. If your answer is the former you're never going to actually know if a pornstar is a genuine "snowbunny" without observing them in their personal life. Or unless they really go out of their way to be obnoxious about it like Kendra Sunderland. Most pornstars are going to keep that shit to themselves if their goal is to maximize money in the porn industry. Lastly, remember that most porn personas are fake/exaggerated. Just because a pornstar says she likes or does something doesn't mean it's true.

Edited by - Molasseslime on 10/13/2021 7:09:19 PM

 
hoochimama
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Posted - Oct 13 2021 : 8:37PM
I thought it was just a synonym for white chick in black american vernacular.
Winner?
IMO a chick dodging her own shade of dick is a hard sell. Even harder if the dick color she's dodging rates lower on the porn ladder than the one she's already done. Are there even any "I can't believe she did a white dick" fetishists?

Edited by - hoochimama on 10/13/2021 9:37:41 PM

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sh_rock
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To answer the original question no. There are hardly any porn stars (mainstream or otherwise) who declare themselves snowbunnies. On twitter however that is a different story.

When it comes to pornstars who declare themselves as a queen of spades or have a preference for black men they have it a little easier these days. With Twitter, OnlyFans, etc., there are other avenues to reach the porn consumer and thus are more independent from porn's white power structure. Also it is not the stigma that it was in previous times.

The majority of these women who shoot videos with only black men will probably never shoot mainstream porn.

Edited by - sh_rock on 10/17/2021 7:07:30 AM

Draxxx
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Posted - Oct 17 2021 : 11:58AM
These types of threads start out interesting then about 3 posts in turn ridiculous because people start going off on weird tangents.

There was a line of videos from years ago from a studio I can't remember called Snowbunnies (or something of the sort) that starred Jack Napier. If the definition for "Snowbunnies" is white girls who prefer black guys then of course there are lots of girls in porn with this preference. Will they come out and public state it? Why would they? They have to deal with and worry about offending or upsetting parts of their fanbase. They also need to keep working and to do that they need to work with white performers because that's what the studios and their fanbase wants from them. But clearly there are and have been girls who prefer at least working with black men in porn. Now with ONLYFANS you can see a clearer picture of this now that girls have more power over who they choose to work with. Most of these girls won't exclusively only perform with black guys but the bulk of their shoots will be with them.

Why this is a big deal or could even turn into a heated discussion is beyond silly. The term snowbunny isn't a popular term and no good reason for a girl to declare themselves one trying to maintain a career in porn but the term does actually fit plenty of girls in the industry (if I'm understanding the definition correctly).

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Posted - Nov 30 2021 : 4:46PM
Yeah, I'm well aware of that spade was a slur at one point. I think I learned it back in 72-73 when I was a kid and learned a boatload of ethnic slurs from Mad Magazine. However, its not the word that's racist or a slur, its in the context the word is being used. A woman announcing she's a QoS in order to attract African American guys is hardly being racist.
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Posted - Dec 1 2021 : 12:17AM
^ The context does matter in the sense that spade can mean something other than black person. But here, it's used to refer to a black person. She's announcing herself as the Queen of the Spades. The spades are the black guys. She is their queen.

The fact that some might see it as a flattering referral rather than a non-flattering referral doesn't change the problem with the term.

If a white person were to say to me "You're a nice n***er" I'd still not be ok with it, even though they're saying I'm nice.

(I'm not saying that people have to stop referring to themselves as QoS or whatever else, but we can't pretend like it isn't problematic.)

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Posted - Dec 2 2021 : 5:35PM
You're all over the place and actually contradict yourself.

1st off, you do realize that most people are aware that "spade" can be a shovel of sorts and also a suit in playing cards etc? Secondly, your use of "context" is completely wrong and in your sentence you should have used "definition." That being said, when I say context, its all about tone and circumstances that form the setting (copied that last part from the official definition) In this case, the woman is basically saying, "ooooh I'm the Queen of fucking black guys!" as she's singling herself out as a major sport fucker of black guys by her QoS tat. Her intent isn't racist. Agreed? OTOH, if someone said, "that fucking spade cut me off!" etc, We can agree on that being racist, correct?

Same thing on your nice comment! I'm in no way condoning you being called a nice, but is the guy's intent to slur you? Maybe he just isn't from this country and comes from a place in the world where use of that word isn't a slur but just describing your color.

Then look at the actual QoS herself. How old is she? I'd imagine that she's probably older and when she got the tat 20+ years ago when everyone wasn't so hung up on being offended by every little perceived slight and is all about retroactively canceling anyone and everyone. Perfect example would be the hubub about the sequel to "To Kill a Mockingbird" that was written back in the 50's and published several years ago. There was an uproar because it turns out Atticus Finch was a total racist and "n$%^$%ed" up a storm in the book and how could it be published?


But I'm curious, if you're offended by a QoS tat from 25 years ago, are you offended by your current favorite female performer exclaiming, "I'm a black cock slut" as she bangs 10 guys? What about your fave that did some Brotha Load scenes and is exclaiming, "give me all that brotha cum!" Or how about all the stars that did the whole Nigga dick bit with Diesel? I mean, I don't ever recall hearing a performer saying they're a white cock slut because they'd immediately be lynched as being racist.

My point is, I think you're reaching a bit on being offended by a ancient tat that is completely not intended to be anything other than an advertisement.

Edited by - Mike Hawk CEO Dixon Cider on 12/2/2021 5:39:35 PM

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^ And you said my reply was all over the place...

You went from defining the word "context" to discussing literary fiction of the mid-20th century to tattoos that may or may not be out-of-date to a non-English speaker with poor understanding of racial slurs, all in the same post.

But back to my central thesis: referring to black people as "spades" was a racist thing to do. Now that someone (or many someones) has decided to refer to themselves as the Queen of Spades, referring to their sex with black people (therefore not referring to a shovel or a suit in playing cards), it's still fucked up. Even if their intent is not racist.

I'm not "offended". I certainly didn't use that word. I didn't say anyone has to stop calling themselves QoS either. In fact I explicitly said I don't feel they have to. But it's still something that raises my eyebrow.

As for all that other stuff you asked me if I'm offended by, well no, I'm not offended by those things either... but I find them similarly questionable.

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Posted - Dec 3 2021 : 9:48AM
Those aren't comparable. Black men being with white women is a fetish in the US in a large part due to the long existent taboo of black men having any sort of sexual connection to white women. There are people alive today who lived through a time when a black teenage boy was viciously tortured and murdered for allegedly whistling at a white woman. While we do not live in that era, any longer, (hopefully), the impacts on our culture do not simply disappear.

"White cock slut" simply isn't a widely used term because there is no lingering taboo about fucking white guys.

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Posted - Dec 3 2021 : 10:35AM
I agree. As I stated earlier in the thread, I don't know how the term "spades" used in this context can be anything but racist. And like killbill also says, I'm not personally offended by it but that doesn't change that it's a term that should be avoided.
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Posted - Dec 3 2021 : 8:50PM
The expression itself comes from racist background, do you really think people who create this expression didn't meant to refer the slur ? They just managed to find a pun that works with it with the playing card suit "Spade".

In the development of it, they bring the tattoo thing. So you're basically marking your skin with a symbol of a sexuel fetish. Like marking a cow in a kennel. Can't you understand why such things doesn't exist for other races ? It's something dirty, something done to shock people because there a taboo aspect of it in the society.

Futhermore, this isn't a thing about black men but about endowed black men which is not every black man, this whole steotype has also racist roots. If you're an average black guy they are not interested in you. More, some women in this fetish doesn't really like black guys, they just like the potential big cock a black guy can have, like a dildo. Some of them even state that outside the sex thing, they lack intelligence, and they don't want to be seen with them in everyday life.

The snowbunny is just a lesser version of it. But it's all the same background. For exemple there is mudshark which a less glamour word for it

To finish I would like to say that the question of this thread is the embodyment of the issue


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