So I saw kid walk onto the set of a porn

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Haze Deactivated User 769 Posts 7/04	Posted - Feb 3 2009 : 1:38AM I rented this movie called "Get Yo Orgy On 2" by West Coast Productions. Its a few years old but has a decent cast. I'm watching it and maybe midway through I distinctly see a little kid walk though a doorway peep in curiously and then leave. Its weird cause it wasn't even edited out. What was the deal did someone not have time to find a sitter? Also isn't this illegal? [Link]
realtip Deactivated User 2301 Posts 6/04	Posted - Feb 3 2009 : 2:39AM It is illegal. But if nobody reports it, who going to know? There was an episode of Law & Order: SVU in which the same thing happened. Cops had gone onto a porno set to question a porn star about a crime, and they found the underage child of one of the performers there on set. Since they say art imitates life, maybe this kind of thing happens more often than we realize. [Link]
SinnamonLove Member 376 Posts 3/06	Posted - Feb 3 2009 : 4:10AM I find that hard to believe... West Coast is not exactly a small company, and they are a reputable company. I can't imagine them having a video shoot where there was a child present on set... or even allowing someone to bring a child onto the set. That simply doesn't happen. Everyone knows that having ANYONE underage even on the premises is illegal. Hell, we take extra caution to make sure that not even neighbors can see the action from the outside of the house we're shooting at so as not to get into trouble with the law. I'd have to question the validity of this statement... anyone want to check out the video to verify the OP's claim? [Link]
lenscap Member everywhere 185 Posts 10/05	Posted - Feb 3 2009 : 7:00AM ^^^why don't you check it out?...you're the one contesting the post^^^ [Link]
TheLoneGunman Member 400 Posts 10/03	Posted - Feb 3 2009 : 8:43AM I've seen the odd kid every now and again in BTS stuff for porn...I just assume it's a kid of a member of the crew, and that the set isn't shooting hardcore that day (a "dialogue-only" session) or during the time the kid is there. I'm guessing this happens often, but most companies are smart enough to edit their BTS footage before releasing it. [Link]

john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08	Posted - Feb 3 2009 : 12:30PM I know everyone makes a huge deal out of this due to the illegality, but otherwise, who cares? Most of us had sex when we were "kids" so it's not like watching other people do it will "scar us for life." The thing that messes kids up is when they're told be their parents that they're evil or immoral for watching sex. [Link]
Ramsey Senior Member Trina Michaels fan 10332 Posts 10/02	Posted - Feb 3 2009 : 2:13PM You sure it wasn't a midget? [Link]
Haze Deactivated User 769 Posts 7/04	Posted - Feb 3 2009 : 2:23PM john lyons wrote: I know everyone makes a huge deal out of this due to the illegality, but otherwise, who cares? Most of us had sex when we were "kids" so it's not like watching other people do it will "scar us for life." The thing that messes kids up is when they're told be their parents that they're evil or immoral for watching sex. Click to expand Yea but most of us don't walk onto the set of an orgy being filmed. [Link]
realtip Deactivated User 2301 Posts 6/04	Posted - Feb 3 2009 : 3:38PM john lyons wrote: Most of us had sex when we were "kids" so it's not like watching other people do it will "scar us for life." Click to expand I beg to differ. Walking in on parents having sex can really scar a kid, if not for life, then atleast for a little while. [Link]
CApornFAN Member 37 Posts 4/07	Posted - Feb 3 2009 : 6:43PM realtip wrote: There was an episode of Law & Order: SVU in which the same thing happened. Cops had gone onto a porno set to question a porn star about a crime, and they found the underage child of one of the performers there on set. Click to expand I saw that episode too. It had Zach from Saved by the Bell. In the episode he was doing gay porn. People can get really desperate to get back in the spotlight. lol [Link]
realtip Deactivated User 2301 Posts 6/04	Posted - Feb 3 2009 : 7:04PM ^Yes, he was playing a gay-for-pay pornstar who was straight and married off-screen. His wife was also a pornstar, and she was the one caught with their underaged daughter on the set because they couldn't afford a babysitter. I see I'm not the only person here who seems to be addicted to Law & Order. [Link]
The DMan Senior Member 1844 Posts 6/07	Posted - Feb 3 2009 : 10:21PM ^^^ Law & Order fans unite! (That was a good episode, BTW). [Link]
john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08	Posted - Feb 4 2009 : 12:34PM realtip wrote: john lyons wrote: Most of us had sex when we were "kids" so it's not like watching other people do it will "scar us for life." Click to expand I beg to differ. Walking in on parents having sex can really scar a kid, if not for life, then atleast for a little while. Click to expand I think the key word is PARENTS. Hell, if I walked in on my parents having sex today I'd probably be messed up a bit by the experience. [Link]
wheat Senior Member You want a toe? I can get you a toe 1131 Posts 4/06	Posted - Feb 4 2009 : 1:04PM john lyons wrote: I know everyone makes a huge deal out of this due to the illegality, but otherwise, who cares? Most of us had sex when we were "kids" so it's not like watching other people do it will "scar us for life." The thing that messes kids up is when they're told be their parents that they're evil or immoral for watching sex. Click to expand wow... [Link]
hollywood woody Senior Member Death is caused by swallowing small amounts of saliva over a long period of time. George Carlin 1567 Posts 2/07	Posted - Feb 4 2009 : 1:34PM The DMan wrote: ^^^ Law & Order fans unite! (That was a good episode, BTW). Click to expand Unite we shall. here is my list of my favorites; Criminal intent with vincent D'nafrio SVU with Mariska Hardigay Law and Order with the new fat black guy. Criminal Intent without Vincent [Link]

ekiqa Member 43 Posts 9/08	Posted - Feb 11 2009 : 10:10PM realtip wrote: john lyons wrote: Most of us had sex when we were "kids" so it's not like watching other people do it will "scar us for life." Click to expand I beg to differ. Walking in on parents having sex can really scar a kid, if not for life, then atleast for a little while. Click to expand Might've scarred me. My parents say I walked in on them and said "I know what you're doing, you're humping!" Apparently it ruined the mood. Sex should not 'scar' or be tabboo. Violence should be. [Link]
Tinybee Member 40 Posts 2/09	Posted - Feb 16 2009 : 4:36AM ekiqa wrote: Sex should not 'scar' or be tabboo. Violence should be. Click to expand Children being exposed to sex at an early age goes beyond moral reasons. It's not about being open-minded, it's about the scientific fact that children who are exposed to this can (often will) have real problems with sex and intimacy later on in life. I'd do some research on it, cause being confronted with it when you're very young can lead to all sorts of disorders when it comes to being comfortable with sex later on. [Link]
Ramsey Senior Member Trina Michaels fan 10332 Posts 10/02	Posted - Feb 16 2009 : 12:59PM I forgot the name of the movie, I think it was from the 70's where this kid, maybe 14 or 15 was part of the movie. He played a boyscout and he enters a bus where 2 girls show him their tits before dumping him. I wish I remembered the name of the movie. [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11017 Posts 5/01	Posted - Feb 16 2009 : 1:06PM Bad Girls [Link]
Ramsey Senior Member Trina Michaels fan 10332 Posts 10/02	Posted - Feb 16 2009 : 1:10PM Thanks Flash. I use to have the movie on VHS but not anymore. Did they include the kid scene in the DVD version? I thought I read they actually cut that part. [Link]
Flash Golden Age Classic 11017 Posts 5/01	Posted - Feb 16 2009 : 1:13PM No, it's still intact. Or at least it was in the original DVD release. They could have gone back and edited it out later. [Link]
Ramsey Senior Member Trina Michaels fan 10332 Posts 10/02	Posted - Feb 16 2009 : 1:18PM You have to admit there's a double standard here. Like no problem if two girls show an underage boy their tits. I don't think it would be acceptable if two men would show their cock to an underage girl. [Link]
Clam Digger Deactivated User Many a man fails as an original thinker simply because his memory is too good. 2268 Posts 1/05	Posted - Feb 16 2009 : 2:33PM Tinybee wrote: ekiqa wrote: Sex should not 'scar' or be tabboo. Violence should be. Click to expand Children being exposed to sex at an early age goes beyond moral reasons. It's not about being open-minded, it's about the scientific fact that children who are exposed to this can (often will) have real problems with sex and intimacy later on in life. I'd do some research on it, cause being confronted with it when you're very young can lead to all sorts of disorders when it comes to being comfortable with sex later on. Click to expand If you are going to build your argument on "scientific fact" you should at least provide a link back to whatever source you are using, otherwise you are just giving your opinion. Sexual mores and taboos are determined by social and communal standards. Actually what you are describing are customs set in place during the Victorian age where upper class sex was deeply constrained. It has been said of the time that upper class Victorians were not allowed to have sex and lower class Victorians were not allowed to steal. You are correct that you should do some research on the matter as you are clearly clueless about the subject. [Link]
Tinybee Member 40 Posts 2/09	Posted - Feb 16 2009 : 4:29PM ^ Shrugs It's not nearly important enough to me to look up the articles of research I've read in the past. Google a random term if you really want to. I live in Holland which I can assure you is more or less the country that is least affected by Victorian purists in this modern age. I was exposed/introduced to the concept of sex at the age of 4, and I think most of my urges (frustrations at some point) that some would consider extreme stem from the fact that I didn't have the understanding to see sex for what it is. You have to remember children learn and absorb things far faster than they can process the thought behind it. A child can not understand the feelings involved with sex as fast as it can absorb the images of it. You simply need a certain maturity in order to understand feelings that your body does not even have yet. Morals are taught by society, they're not instinctive. Yet a child that walks in on 2 people having sex or fighting will be shocked, but a child that walks in on people doing drugs (another example of the effect of morals) will not be shocked at all. What does this tell you? I truly believe that sex can have a very bad effect on children if they're exposed to it early, and even more so if their parents arent capable enough to explain it to them (mine were fortunately). For the record, I consider 'children' as people below 10-ish. Above that, I believe they have the mental capacity for sex to not be shocking anymore. If you still feel sex has no effect on children, then go ahead and sit on the coach with your children or some random neighbourhood kid and watch porn with them. I appreciate that you are taking a hard stand against prudes that have no reason for their claims other than baseless morals, but I know you don't really believe that children should be exposed to sex any more than they should be exposed to violence, no matter how much we all appreciate sex. Kids have enough to worry and learn about without the added sex factor. [mod edit: don't quote the post above your own, just use the "up arrow"] Edited by - killbillvol69 on 2/16/2009 4:31:31 PM [Link]
Clam Digger Deactivated User Many a man fails as an original thinker simply because his memory is too good. 2268 Posts 1/05	Posted - Feb 16 2009 : 5:41PM ^What I am say is that your two posts are nothing more then your subjective opinion, which you are certainly welcome to. Please just understand it as such and do not claim that your statements have any basis in fact. Your comment, " Yet a child that walks in on 2 people having sex or fighting will be shocked, but a child .." It is interesting that you should use fighting and sex as examples of childhood psychological trauma. Constant exposure to violence (fear) can certainly have troubling consequences in the emotional development of a child, there is however no empirical evidence that consensual sex between couples in the pretense of a child has any positive or negative impact on a child in and of itself. It is society that places the taboos and creates to guilt as a means of control. [Link]

Tinybee Member 40 Posts 2/09	Posted - Feb 16 2009 : 6:14PM ^ (thanks Killbill, just wasn't sure if a long post would still allow me to be next in line) Thing is that cases like this will likely always be confined to anecdotal evidence. I don't think scientists will actually do valid tests which would require regularly exposing small children to pornography or other sexual influences. Case that comes to mind is the experiments centuries ago that proved babies will literally die without affection in the form of touch. Very interesting and important to know, but in these days, we would never actually do the same experiments again. Sadly humans are completely unique in many mental regards, so even animal testing would give insufficient results. So all we can do is research molesters, rapists, people with sexual/emotional disorders or any other kind of mental illness related to sex and see what the causes could have been. Be it complete indoctrination of society shutting them off from sex or, the opposite, overexposure to sex at an age at which they were too young to process it properly. Anyway, the topic is perhaps a bit too off-topic for a forum where we discuss our favorite cumshots and pussyshapes. [Link]
Clam Digger Deactivated User Many a man fails as an original thinker simply because his memory is too good. 2268 Posts 1/05	Posted - Feb 16 2009 : 6:36PM Clam Digger wrote: ^What I am say is that your two posts are nothing more then your subjective opinion, which you are certainly welcome to. Please just understand it as such, and do not claim that your statements have any basis in fact. Your comment, " Yet a child that walks in on 2 people having sex or fighting will be shocked, but a child .." It is interesting that you should use fighting and sex as examples of childhood psychological trauma. Constant exposure to violence (fear) can certainly have troubling consequences in the emotional development of a child, there is however no empirical evidence that consensual sex between couples in the pretense of a child has any positive or negative impact on a child in and of itself. It is society that places the taboos and creates guilt as a means of control. Click to expand [Link]
RevCo Member Pot 'n' Porn Party (PPP) 40 Posts 9/08	Posted - Feb 16 2009 : 10:44PM >If you still feel sex has no effect on children, then go ahead and sit on the coach >with your children or some random neighbourhood kid and watch porn with them. Ok, the more you write the stupider it gets. So, if I believe that children will not be effected by walking in on parents 'humping' or see some porn on tv (or even the INTERNET!) then I must watch porn with my kids? What type of fvcked logic is that? I think you do have some problems. After all (as Larry Flynt famously stated) "it's only sex", it's not like they saw someone's head blown-off on tv - now that could cause some damage.... [Link]
Tinybee Member 40 Posts 2/09	Posted - Feb 16 2009 : 10:57PM ^You're an idiot. Stop taking things out of context and making cheap arguements over it. That post was in reply to Clam Digger who actually made valid and useful points, which is why I quoted him and not the topic starter or anyone else when I made that comment. If you're going to bother to post, at least have the decency to read and comprehense an entire write-up instead of just a single line that can easily be misinterpreted. [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Feb 16 2009 : 11:06PM Ramsey wrote: I forgot the name of the movie, I think it was from the 70's where this kid, maybe 14 or 15 was part of the movie. He played a boyscout and he enters a bus where 2 girls show him their tits before dumping him. I wish I remembered the name of the movie. Click to expand That 'boy' was actually an adult, they just picked a young looking guy and dressed him as a boy scout. [Link]
RevCo Member Pot 'n' Porn Party (PPP) 40 Posts 9/08	Posted - Feb 17 2009 : 9:45AM >Stop taking things out of context and making cheap arguements over it. Stop constructing poorly architected arguments and then whining when you are called on them. You made a simple statement, how did I take it out of context? It's in black and white. What am I not getting? If you want to have a private discussion then do it via email, but to say that you cannot be critiqued because the post was not directed at me, is well, you know..... "when you're in a hole, stop digging" [Link]
Tinybee Member 40 Posts 2/09	Posted - Feb 17 2009 : 1:08PM ^Did I force you, say it's a good idea or encourage you in any way to sit on the couch watching porn with a kid? No. I said that if you feel porn or anything sex related has no effect whatsoever on children, then you should have no problem at all with sitting on the couch with any random kid. Now, your response alone tells us all that you don't think this is a particularly good thing to do. So why are you even argueing against me? Did I say that I think a random glimpse of encounter with sex will scar a child for life? No. I said overexposure to sex will have a far deeper consequence than you might realise. I suggest you read what I wrote again. Particularly my words "If you still feel" and your words "so if I think" followed by YOUR words, NOT MINE. and see that you make a comment that fits in the context 'black/white', when it really isnt. Oh and you can stop with your ridiculous cliche quotes that have no ground to stand on. Especially cause your only goal is not to discuss, educate or inform, but to pick a random line to devaluate any opinion that is not your own. "Dig" more please. [Link]
typvgs Member 46 Posts 9/05	Posted - Feb 17 2009 : 9:51PM So... I have a kid---a two year old. I have to say, teaching him things or showing him new experiences is all about what he's comfortable with, and what my wife and I are comfortable with. That goes for everything. You know, my wife is a vegetarian, and we don't feed out son meat, either. He thinks of animals as really cute and would be totally traumatized to know they're killed and slaughtered for food. Yet, if we're at a retaurant, I do eat meat, and I just say it's 'daddy's food'. He's fine with it and doesn't bother asking more. Some kids grow up on farms and by his age of 2 have probably seen lots of animals killed. Those kids are just fine, too. They're not necessarily traumitized. It's all about the parents, what they're like, what they do, and what the kid can understand. I don't think watching people have sex at age 2 is necessarily tramatic. In a lot of past cultures, and maybe some tribal ones today, parents do have sex in front of their kids. It works, because it's seen as normal. Personally, we tend to avoid the violence on TV, because it scares him. But, he's probably watched R-rated (18 cert), sensual sex scenes. To him, it's like mummy and daddy kissing in bed. He wouldn't really take any particular interest in the scene. With kids, if you make a big deal out of something, then they remember. Otherwise, they only pay attention to what they're interested in. It's possible that the kid in the porn will recall some exciting day when they went to a studio. For all we know, the bit of sex scene he saw looked boring to him and holds little significance. If it was a rough scene with mommy, that's another story. Otherwise, he'll only remember or even care about it if the adults around him make a big deal out of it. [Link]
alexl467 Member Bklyn, NY 873 Posts 4/03	Posted - Feb 23 2009 : 3:57PM For anyone interested here is a thread about the upcoming new L&O series "Law & Order UK. alexl467 [Link]
RevCo Member Pot 'n' Porn Party (PPP) 40 Posts 9/08	Posted - Feb 27 2009 : 2:05PM >Above that, I believe they have the mental capacity for sex to not be shocking anymore. Could you explain why children (under the age of 10) find sex shocking? [Link]

john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08	Posted - Feb 28 2009 : 2:33AM I could list a good 30 or more X rated films made in the 70s and early 80s which not only feature kids in them, but as part of, and sometimes even in supporting roles of, the story. In none of those cases were the kids engaging in sex or on screen during a sex scene, but I find it amazing how are double standards allow kids to be in brutally violent films (and sometimes play large parts in the brutality) but we all faint if we see a minor in a film with sex and nudity. [Link]
Clam Digger Deactivated User Many a man fails as an original thinker simply because his memory is too good. 2268 Posts 1/05	Posted - Feb 28 2009 : 2:22PM ^can you name some? I can't think of any. [Link]
john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08	Posted - Feb 28 2009 : 5:18PM Clam Digger wrote: ^can you name some? I can't think of any. Click to expand The only one that comes immediately to mind in which a minor plays a large role in the film is Both Ways by Jerry Douglas in which an (obviously) 8-10 year old boy plays Gerald Grant and Andrea True's son. Also Through the Looking Glass. I realize I mis-spoke as what I wrote infers that I can think of 30 or so films where minors have large acting roles. That I cannot. Even as bold as many filmmakers were in the 70s, they still usually shied away from things like that, due to the legal problems. A few more films which openly feature minors: Tongue - a group of teenage schoolgirls (real teens and pre-teens) make fun of Al Poe's character. Babyface - one of the brothel's clients has a young son. Wanda Whips Wall street - a client's wife is cradling a real baby in a hospital scene. Numerous Euro films of the era feature kids in small, non sexual roles. [Link]
BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07	Posted - Feb 28 2009 : 7:40PM Don't forget Do Me Evil, that's some crazy ass shit right there. [Link]
john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08	Posted - Feb 28 2009 : 8:15PM BlackSix wrote: Don't forget Do Me Evil, that's some crazy ass shit right there. Click to expand You're right. Forgot that one. [Link]