charn, there is also whitezilla and girls have no problem with with it. Plenty of girls who wont touch a black man have done those movies. These same women do "white trash" movies as well with white guys. Has nothing to do with titles but everything to do with skin color.
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TeganLovesSara Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 1 2010 : 7:20PM
stop putting these girls on a pedastel. that is excatly what all these ir threads do.
And your point is ??? Let me take a stab... since a woman does porn she no longer has the ability to chose. She has lost all rights to her body and the ability to make her own decisions. And she since has become a whore she should do whatever her fans want so that they can masturbate to it... Does that about sum it up ? Not trying to argue, but that seems to be general attitude of those that get upset when a performer doesnt do IR. Michael www.2257Safe.com www.AdultBizLaw.com
They have the right to make the choice, but we fans have the right to make judgements about them for making that choice. I and others have judged them harshly, but that doesn't mean they didn't deserve it. I guess there's no way of knowing for sure what is in someone's heart, but whatever their reasons for not doing it it does involve race, and certainly not in a positive context. I personally will not buy a movie where a dodger is one the cover. That's my choice.
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Posted - Jan 2 2010 : 1:52PM
That sounds like a fair compromise. Are you a black IR fan? I doubt a nonblack IR fan will boycott a product because it has a dodger in it.
This is an odd argument to me. If the most popular porn star in the world were a black female she would get paid the most. It's sad but true, most black female talent do not move a lot of product. Name the top ten black female stars and their biggest boxcover feature films. Now this could be a chicken and egg argument in that most producers don't believe black women can move product so they don't put them on boxcovers, so there aren't many to choose from. However Heather Hunter was quite productive in her foray through porn valley, so I dunno... A GILF like Dana Hayes doesn't move product like Jenna Haze does, and I doubt she makes a check anywhere near what Jenna does either. Is porn ageist? Men often don't make what their female counterparts make either. Give what I've read that's likely the converse of the regular business world, where men traditionally make much more than their female counterparts (and is also far more likely to be the most inequal pay - as far I know it's sex, not race) Is porn sexist? I probably don't know law like pornlaw does, but given that Hollywood can do the same exact thing- pay Morgan Freeman two million dollars for a movie, Reese Witherspoon 4 million and then pay Matt Damon 10 million, it's probably not all that illegal. So it's not a fitting argument for porn and race, in my opinion... In any case I hope to make a better argument than maybe some that have been presented here. I think as a black fan I have every reason to be annoyed if a girl doesn't do anal, gets a boob job, does a bukkake, fucks a goat, takes a dump on Donald Trump's combover or doesn't do interracial. It's my opinion. Some housewife can write a letter tomorrow saying she doesn't want CBS to air "How I Met Your Mother" because it promotes premarital sex. It's her opinion. If she calls the owners of CBS godless heathens, it's her opinion. You can disagree with it, you can call it extreme. But she has every right to that opinion. I can call dodgers 'racist' (I usually don't unless the girl says something like Felix Vicious did once- can't find the original link but it was fairly vitrolic- or how some girls have called the black men in the industry dirty or high on weed all the time, and then it's a matter of fact as the girl has commented in such a way that her comments at the very least lead one to believe she has some negative racial viewpoints) but I choose not to. However those girls are evidently entitled to their opinion, aren't they? I haven't seen very many of the champions of liberty weigh in much when the girls make nasty comments. Maybe I'm wrong and there are threads bemoaning their comments about race, but I don't think too many guys in support of their rights care when they do say something negative. I suppose maybe one could make some sort of case about libel against the girls (written defamation) as racism can be a strong charge. I believe some model won a case against a blogger once, but she was making direct assertions that were completely untrue. The phrase "dodger" essentially means a girl who avoids IR scenes because she doesn't want to work with black men. It's not really defamation, is it? If you've been in porn and worked with a hundred people and not one of them is black, you're likely trying to avoid that particular segment of the population, right? Another one of my basic problems is we act like all things are equal. They're not. How many girls who've had substantial careers of any length have never fucked a white man on camera? You could probably count them on one hand, maybe two if you've got an encyclopedic knowledge of porn. Even the most casual fan of IR could rattle off a hundred names of "dodgers" given incentive. Now has every girl who's ever been in porn attracted to white men? Given how many have said they're actually lesbians in real life (let's say 10% just for shits and giggles), likely not. How many girls have done girl/girl despite not being into women? I can't think of any girl in the industry (tho I'm sure the fans of girl/girl could probably rattle off a few)but the reality is probably not a whole bunch. Simple fact is women in porn fuck people they don't necessarily want to all the time. Janet Mason just blogged about how she was fucking people she didn't find attractive during her stint in porn valley which is why she's quitting the pro biz. http://www.janetmasonblog.com/2009/12/20092010-looking-back-looking-ahead.html Also let's not overlook the part of this argument that people tend to exclude. Most second and third tier porn white female perfomers (girls who usually don't get boxcovers) tend to do interracial. If we want to act like finance isn't a part of this equation I guess we can, but it's quite relevant I think. Girls who make more money seem to put off IR longer than girls who don't command bigger paychecks(numbers would likely bear me out on this). Does this say anything conclusive? Not necessarily, but it does seem to indicate that racial preference and "I'm not attracted..." goes out the fucking window when there are bills to be paid. I don't necessarily think that creating a thread especially on this board will do anything. But I must admit the argument that the girls are only exerting their freedom of choice seems to occur far greater with IR than any other act they might find objectionable for any reason. And if you are an IR fan it might cause you to think there's a racist component. And just as that girl has her right to that decision, I have a right to boycott her work, right to inform other fans that she has managed to be in porn for several years without IR work and if she's said something like "my other fans wouldn't appreciate it" (which the business wouldn't seem to bear out in most cases-most guys buy porn because of a pretty face and hot body. Most casual fans don't keep a mental rolodex of who's done what. Only the most fervent fans, like those of us here on these boards, really care either way. If dodging was all it took to raise your profile then less attractive girls could do it too, right?) other IR fans should know that, too. It's a venting process and if 90% of the girls in the industry only did girl/girl, most guys (black, white, latino, asian, etc.) on the board would likely be complaining together about the fact that the girls treat all meatsticks of every color like second class citizens. It just so happens it happens to black guys much more and there are more complaints threads because of it. I think if everyone stopped complaining about IR threads they'd probably dry up and go away after two or three posts...
That Felix Vicious, she must be something. Her name always comes up whenever racism is discussed in porn.
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Posted - Jan 3 2010 : 11:14PM
no personal insults. Edited by - savoy on 1/4/2010 9:47:48 AM
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Posted - Jan 4 2010 : 12:04AM
Why won't you IR fascists just go away? Some women just aren't attracted to black men, deal with it. They aren't going to change just because you keep whining about it.
What does "attraction" have to do in a business where they're paid to fuck on camera for guys to beat off to? Do you seriously believe "attraction" is a factor when it comes to these dodgers doing old pot bellied white males like Ron Jeremy and Dave Cummings over a young and fit black male?
Actually, Dave Cummings looks better than a lot of people -- he is just a bit older than most in the industry. Unfortunately as a straight man, I'm not supposed to have an opinion in this society.
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Posted - Jan 4 2010 : 5:01AM
That's completely different. In that thread the link directed people to a video in which porn actors (Sophie Dee was one) made blatantly racist comments. Refusing to work with a black man because you are not attracted to him is not racist. @Auslim I have no idea why some pornstars will agree to work with a man like David Cummings and not a black man. That's not the point though, clearly some people are rather unique and odd tastes. There's actually a fetish for potbellied hideous men like Ron Jeremy, just like i know many men who are attracted to BBW's; a fetish i could never go for. Edited by - Naturally_Perverted on 1/4/2010 5:05:38 AM
Close to 70 % of the girls in porn don't work with black men. Do you really believe that close to 70% of pornstars are so not attracted to black guys to the point where they won't work with none? I do know there are many girls who aren't attracted to black men, even they ones who work with them but very few performers need to be "attracted" to costars to work with them. Ron Jeremy isn't attractive but I find it normal that a lot of girls work with him. That is expected. These people aren't dating or getting married. There are different levels of attraction: when you refuse to work with someone based on looks, it means you find him straight up very ugly and every unappealing. How many of us will refuse to work with folks we find average looking? Do you really believe that more girls in porn find Ron Jeremy more attractive than Mr Marcus or Brian Pumper? If we go by the numbers, you would say Yes.
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Posted - Jan 4 2010 : 8:26AM
^First i need to ask you where you got the 70% figure from. If it is established that 70% porn actresses outright REFUSE to work with black men, then i will agree there may be racist undertones. The fact of the matter is that porn actresses want to work with men they find attractive as much as possible, anyone would, that's just common sense. If they find that they can refuse to work with people that they find unattractive and still appeal to a large enough market to generate them a large amount of revenue, then they will do so. I'd like to point out Taylor Rain, who refuses to do black men on film yet dated one in her personal life. Then you have porn actresses like Sophie Dee who do black men on film but then get caught on behind-the-scene footage making racist remarks with an equally dense male costar.
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TeganLovesSara Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 4 2010 : 8:52AM
give it up dude, you lost all credibility with that thread i pointed out. whats the difference between dudes, obessing over ir and you starting a thread to "Call out" chicks you think are racist, with little to no proof. By the way, not only does sophie do ir, but she's married to a black man......i'm seriously doubting she's racist.
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Posted - Jan 4 2010 : 9:50AM
Damn, how did you nail this guy? That thread is a little old and it doesn't seem like you've been here very long. You are right that he lost all credibility with that thread.
You make this statement as if every white actress who has ever worked with her white co-stars have been attracted to them all. Do you seriously believe that? if attraction were the main barometer, most men wouldn't be in the business. It's the ability to fuck on camera that gets men their jobs. Also fascism/fascist is defined as: 1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition 2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control How does that possibly to people who simply want to see adult women in the porn business work equally with men of opposite races and making a living do it? Seriously?
No I'm white. Just don't want to see those dodgers as the lone woman on the cover of my porn movies. It makes me feel unclean. Though I'm not sure if I'm a hypocrite as I will still watch and enjoy the work of some dodgers. I would buy Tori Black is Pretty Filthy and watch Kristina Rose's scene in it, but I wouldn't buy Kristina Rose Slutwoman. As far as movies with multiple women on the cover I'll allow myself some wiggle room. As long as the dodger to non dodger ratio comes out at least even I probably could buy it withouth shame. And if there's a case where I don't know whether the star has done IR or not I will do the research. Though 90% of my favorite stars do IR anyway so I don't think this will majorly effect my purchases. In honestly there's only a few dodgers that I really want to see go IR. Inevitably the most overrated pornstars out there are the dodgers. Edited by - Christopher256 on 1/4/2010 12:53:26 PM
i've seen many boxcovers of bollywood movies with drop dead gorgeous women and ugly men. not quite ron jeremy ugly, but bad enough. porn is not legal in india, so they put porn standards in mainstream film. more on topic, i'd like to see more IR indian lesbian scenes.
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Posted - Jan 4 2010 : 2:41PM
I need to clear up a few things here. Some people are implying that pornstars shouldn't have a right to work with who they want because they're getting paid to do so. Sex is a very personal activity, even when it's being done on camera. Girls want to work with people who they're comfortable with. I'm a white guy myself and I am simply more attracted to white skin. I'm sure there is genetic research out there that indicates most people will be more naturally attracted to their own race. This is not a racist thing, it's simply natural. I usually don't find black women to be attractive but when I do, I wouldn't want to have sex with them. I would be uncomfortable doing it and I simply wouldn't find it natural. I'd rather have sex with an average looking white woman (or even below average to a certain extent) than what some of you would consider a hot black woman. Again, this is not a racist thing, this is just my biological conscience acting. This applies to many of the IR "dodgers".
I'm pretty sure a lot of open minded white dudes who aren't attracted to black girls will disagree on you there. A lof of this is also influenced by the kind of environment you grew up in. 100 years ago, most of the girls who date black guys or do IR in porn wouldn't even entertain the idea. That is a fact.Do you feel that way just about black women? What about asian and latino women? Do you think it's natural for you to fuck them? I will try to make another point here which doesn't necessarily apply to you. I find it strange that a lot of folks who disagree with interracial sex don't target latinos and asians. They will tell you it's unatural to bang blacks but it's ok to fuck asians and latinos. Edited by - DeadManWalking on 1/4/2010 3:06:58 PM
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Posted - Jan 4 2010 : 3:14PM
Well, for my case, I still probably wouldn't want to have sex with an Asian or Latina. Perhaps I would with one of those Latinas that look very white/Iberian. In real life, I have fucked an Israeli girl. When I'm jerking off to porn though, I usually jerk off to white girls. It's uncommon but I do sometimes get the urge to jerk off to Latinas, Asians, and multiracial girls (such as Brianna Frost or Zeina Heart). I have rarely jerked off to 100% black girls and this is natural. Latinas and Asians have a closer skin tone to white girls and that would explain why I'm more attracted to them. Edited by - cumfiesta2107 on 1/4/2010 3:16:53 PM
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Naturally_Perverted Deactivated User
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Posted - Jan 4 2010 : 6:44PM
My penis is black but i can still get a dodger to suck it. I guess being African is what makes them unattractive.
What do you mean? Are you latino? I have seen some girls who would never do blacks suck "black" cocks on latino and middle easten dudes in porn before. Some people of those groups have dicks much darker than light skinned black guys.I have seen Vanessa Lane doing that. Before someone points it out, I didn't intentionally want to sound gay.
Edited by - RetiredPornactor on 1/4/2010 7:16:00 PM
Sophie Dee and racist in the same sentence? What did I miss?
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Posted - Jan 4 2010 : 8:24PM
Basically i posted a thread a while back in which a behind-the-scenes clip featured a genuinely racist male porn actor who's name i do not know expressing real anger and hatred of black people. No, it was not scripted, if you actually think pornstars possess that kind of acting talent you're sadly stupid. One of the people who also made a racist/stereotypical comment was Sophie Dee. I don't know if she was dating a black man at the time and frankly i don't really give a shit, clearly they were all having shits and giggles over their pathetically ignorant comments. Edited by - Naturally_Perverted on 1/4/2010 8:30:51 PM
if my memory serves me correctly during her "dodging" days jenna haze made a comment on her refusal to work with black men. at the time she said she would have sex with a black man IF ONLY he was as hot as kobe bryant. fast forward to today... as for the ron jeremy factor he is not what he once was but he is one of the all time legends in porn. for that reason alone that is why some women will work with him. lexington steele and sean michaels are also legends so that logic goes out the window. oh yeah for those that practice racism logic has never been part of that reasoning. take my hand and swear eternal loyalty---to zod!
hi guys! hope your all having a great new year! just wanted to say. that i have talked about the movie that you guys are talking about. not sure how to post the link to the topic but its under- All Forums -> Star Crossed -> Sophie Dee.... behaving badly i talked about the shoot. and why i was pissed that day.i am far from racist.. most of my work is ir, and i love it! my husband going on 4 years. is a black guy!!! i have done ir all my years in porn. this was one bad shoot, and it was years ago it was shot. i was very unprofessional that day.and very pissed off. we are human. and we get mad. and anoyed. xoxoxc sophie dee
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Jan 5 2010 : 4:30AM
If you have a preference, you have a preference, you don't need to justify it by claiming it is 'natural.' There is no such 'genetic research.' In fact, there is no kind of genetics that could prove such a thing. Such biodeterminist thinking is very, very bad pop science and has no grounding in fact. If anything, you would think evolution would encourage 'breeding' outside one's so-called racial group as this would create more biodiversity. But 'evolution' doesn't tell us what to do, our instincts play a role in things but they don't control us so absolutely, if they did we wouldn't be driving cars and wiping our arses. If it was so natural why would it be very common in some societies and so looked down-upon in others and vary so much from person to person. I'm a white guy who loves asian, black, indian or white women: am I 'unnatural' and denying my genetic heritage?? Please.
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Posted - Jan 5 2010 : 4:46AM
^Need to disagree with you on the your statement of the genetic research being nonexistent. Firstly, that's an obviously false statement, and secondly, it's been proven that people with more symmetrical faces are found more attractive. This attractiveness towards people with symmetrical faces was indeed proven to be part of our biological drive.
I believe you aren't racist and the fact that you married a black man is strong proof however I think there is a double standard on this issue, not just in porn. A person can say anything about blacks but when people found out she dated, fucked or married blacks they conclude he/she isn't a racist. Unlike the "I have black fiends" argument, "I fucked, dated or married a black girl/guy" is often used when someone is accused of racism. Rightfully so, it is accepted and here comes to double standard part, a girl can anything ranging from" I can fuck any man as long as he isn't black or I will never fuck a black person for millions of dolllars" and nobody says they are racist.They point to preference. My point is if refusing to sleep with anyone of black descent doesn't mean someone is racist then why is being open to doing blacks make someone completely "not prejudice"?
Sir, you're obviously very ignorant, but you must also be stupid if you actually believe your post isnt racist. It's the definition of racism. You're making it even worse by trying to disguise it as some "genetic scientific fact" like you have a degree in racism or something.
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Posted - Jan 5 2010 : 6:41PM
There is no concrete evidence that disproves my theory. Do not assume things. Why did evolution make us different races in the first place? Evolution theorists say that we all evolved from some primate in Africa. I'm sorry, but I have very liberal white friends who simply don't date black people because they too say they simply are not naturally attracted to them. This doesn't apply to all white people but I'm just saying... Edited by - cumfiesta2107 on 1/5/2010 6:42:42 PM
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Posted - Jan 5 2010 : 6:50PM
You're the one who is fucking stupid if you really think that's racism. I didn't say I was absolutely sure that it was a fact but it might be. It's just my theory. I also clearly stated that it didn't apply to all white people. I can't stand internet toughguy jackasses like you. You just had to flame me cocksucker. Edited by - cumfiesta2107 on 1/5/2010 6:51:29 PM
Hmm, I don't know. There seems to be some empirical evidence that would prove otherwise. Many "white" genetic traits are occurring in less frequent numbers despite relative population growth. Blonde hair and red hair are both occurring less frequently because people who have these traits are not mating together. If people were so predeterminedly attracted to their kind, wouldn't these things be growing exponentially in according to any population growth in white cultures? It's also somewhat limited to base your views on a small population sample. many communities attract similar populations based on wealth and occupation, so its hardly a random enough sampling to have a decent judgment. Your friends may be considered "liberal" where you are, but may be considered less so in other populations. I was surprised to find how much more liberal women from Ireland and England are compared to New York, one of the most supposedly liberal cities in America. New York's liberal identity and reputation actually comes from its older voting population, which is often liberal, but the city itself can actually be decidedly less so. Don't forget, much of the population comes from other parts of the country and world and many cultures bring their own biases and intolerances. So if I were to go by the numbers and based on its voting record I would say New York is liberal, but the actual city is far less tolerant than one would believe from the outside. So just based on my knowledge, I don't believe what you're saying to be true. Edited by - irex on 1/6/2010 12:43:56 PM
It's kinda pathetic starting these IR threads. Its brings to life the stereotype that black guys are out on the prowl for white women and the white men are out to "protect" them. I'm a black guy and does it bother me a little when a performer (whatever race) says she would never fuck a black guy....yeah...a little. Its like someone saying you are too unattractive to fuck and no one wants to hear that I'm sure. Also with the word "dodger" I'd say give that term is reserved for a performer who after many years refuses to do IR or just flat out says it from the beginning. IR is as profitable as anal so it makes since to let your stock go up for a while and then cash in. Chances are that is just what most of the newer performers considered dodgers are doing.
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Posted - Jan 6 2010 : 12:07PM
Lack of evidence by definition under the scientific method, disproves your 'theory.' That's science. 'Evolution' is just a process of adaptation to your environment, race is a cultural notion it doesn't mean much in terms of genetics, there is more genetic difference between two tribes in Africa, due to the length of time they've existed on the continent, than between a black and white person in NYC.
Dude, I am black and I agree with you 1000%!!! I hate those titles, the way those fools act and sound and just the overall product those clowns produce with those lines and that company. Also saying that I hate the guys in any movie that talks as well.....I only care about the girls!! Not some assclown..(see Wesley Pipes) running his mouth...and the background producers cheering the xxx on like race.
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Posted - Jan 6 2010 : 1:58PM
Not really...Bullshit.
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Well, I didn't say that people are attracted to exactly themselves but they usually prefer someone who looks more like them. A white person is MUCH more likely to date another white person, Hispanic person, Middle Eastern or anyone who resembles a Caucasoid. Black people on the other hand are much different than Caucasoids. In New York City we don't give a shit if someone is in an interracial relationship. It's not like Georgia where some redneck might beat up an interracial couple. Regardless, IR dating is still not very common in NYC and when it does happen the white person is usually with someone who is more closely related to a Caucasoid than a black person. We should probably drop this racial science debate though before more confused idiots like iWorship come in here pulling the race card.
I'm not too concerned with whatever trolls may come and I still feel there are unresolved points to make. Most whites I've met are far more likely to date an African American (or simply 'black' as there are many people who don't trace their immediate genealogy to Africa...) than someone middle eastern. That may be just as much due to cultural differences and my limited sphere of reference but am fairly sure most statistics would back me up on that one. However, there's no doubt in my mind that attraction often works just as much along lines of power and influence and appeal as it does for racial recognition. Even in the deep South, most popular black football players can usually sleep with the popular girls of any race. It's not that the girls are attracted to the black sex myth; it's just a matter of influence and power and social hierarchy. Am fairly certain most white or black kids in the school marching band, playing the tuba, are not going out with cheerleaders on a Saturday night... So I think plenty of factors influence attraction and race is simply one of a multitude. Also I lived in New York most of my life and while the stretch from the tip of Manhattan to about the edges of Spanish Harlem are fairly easy to traverse, there are hundreds of pockets in every neighborhood other than that throughout the five boroughs where you could be beaten for walking with a white woman, black girl, or gay boyfriend. There have been several incidents of racially motivated attacks in Brooklyn, Staten Island and Queens that resulted in severe injury and/or death. New York is hardly the model of tolerant living outside of a hundred and fifteen blocks and twelve avenues in Manhattan...
According to that show on National Geographic a few months ago about the Human Genome Project or whatever where they had DNA from people all over the world and traced back their roots using DNA markers from different people in different areas of the world, skin color of different people has to do with the amount of sunlight people were exposed to and their different enivornments. Dark skin was exposed to more sunlight and as people went into colder climates with less sunlight, their skin lightened. Something having to do with pigment, I don't really remember the details. That was paraphrased from memory of course, but that's what i remember. Other features that different races have, like shapes of noses, etc, are caused by their environment more than anything else. And for the love of ADT, PLEASE trim your quotes guys. It's annoying to have to sift through all these quotes of the ten people above you just to read what you have to say. Just sayin'.
I think people just need to get over this. You are likely to have more success trying to empty the oceans by yourself than getting half the girls who don't do IR to fuck black men. It is just a waste of time. Racism will always be alive. Just ignore it and live your life. In 2008, I was dating this girl in Minnesota and her best friend's mom didn't want her daughter to hang out with her anymore (just because she is dating a black dude). This wasn't her daughter dating a black man but she made it her issue. She didn't know anything about me but she just made assumptions. The friend's mom is a lawyer, not some uneducated ignorant person. The bottom line is when you have people like this among us, how do you really expect all girls to do IR? Other people have it worse so just forget about these IR problem in porn and move on. At the end of the day, it is every girl's right to choose who she allows in her vagina.
pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07
Posted - Jan 8 2010 : 3:55AM
Thanks for the intelligent responses. You obviously don't even know what the scientific method is: both of those statements would be common knowledge to anyone who had taken high school biology. Here's the study about African genetic diversity. Note that info is from New Scientist magazine, not Stormfront, which is where you are obviously drawing your 'theory' from. Now, go troll somewhere else. Edited by - BlackSix on 1/8/2010 4:02:58 AM
Your point only applies to those who argue every dodger should do a black man out of fairness. I don't make that argument, so the whole "every girl's right..." argument doesn't apply to me. My point is a) many don't do IR because of some economic plan that reserves IR as some sort of fallback if their career needs a boost and b)as a consumer I don't appreciate a business plan that treats me as some sort of secondary market. It's just a stupid way to approach your career as many successful girls have shown if you do IR in quality productions and include it as a regular part of your career you widen your fanbase and potentially increase your income for years to come. Of course there are some girls who shorten their career by turning up in low rent productions and doing circus acts. But you can do that across the board in black and white productions. I guarantee there are plenty of girls who were on the fast track to a two year career in porn long before they did their first black man. Some girls can't handle porn and take a self destructive career path that may include IR scenes in cheap movies but I'm willing to bet many of them would be out of the business soon enough anyway due to their own personal issues. Anybody wanna view Chasey Lain's crazy video to prove what drugs can do to a girl? I've never seen a top girl fall off the map because she did IR in a good IR movie. So I will hammer that point home, here and elsewhere because occasionally a girl will listen. I know there are girls it won't work with- Stacy Valentine, who I met when I was a freelancer and she was a Gallery Girl Next Door contest winner was just never going to do IR; she grew up in an atmosphere where she didn't have the worldview to accept other races. And that's gonna happen. But there are girls who are going to listen. So, no, I don't expect every girl to do IR just because there's a thread on ADT, but I hope to contradict some of what they read and hear about what IR does for your career and when you should do it.
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Posted - Jan 8 2010 : 9:54AM
Stacy Valentine? According to iafd she worked with Jake Steed.
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Posted - Jan 8 2010 : 12:43PM
Do you know what you're even blabbing about? The scientific method is used for an experiment, it does not disprove a general theory like I pointed out (well it can but it depends on the circumstances). Your link is interesting but it doesn't really say much besides the fact that Africans have varying genetics and non-Africans share some common genetics. Dur! It's no surprise! We're all fucking human! That doesn't disprove my aforementioned theory at all. Oh and about the Stormfront comment, I didn't even know what that was until I looked it up on google. It seems like it's a site with white pride morons who express anti-Semitic hatred. I have Jewish ancestry for fuck sakes and I'm even legitimately Jewish according to Halacha (Jewish Law) because my family is Jewish matrinically. You're a really dumb fucking cocksucker if you think that I go to sites like that just because of what I said before.
Angel Anthology: Angela White, The - review by Danielmayu33216
Posted - Jan 1 2010 : 7:15PM
