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kristin
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Posted - Aug 7 2019 : 6:01AM
I noticed recently on a European cable channel 2 different version of a porn, one hardcore and one softcore, in the hardcore you can see everything, yet in the softcore it is not an edited version, it follows the same sequence as the hardcore yet you can see that they are faking it in the blowjob scene and the time where he is supposed to penetrate the girl.

My question is that do they shot 2 different porn or is it shot in between hardcore takes to let the male actor "cool down"?
Anyone saw anything similar?

pat362
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Posted - Aug 7 2019 : 7:48AM
^You might want to give us the title of the movie.
kristin
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Posted - Aug 7 2019 : 3:37PM
Too many to count

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Flash All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Aug 7 2019 : 3:57PM
Commonly, for features two versions were made, what I believe Radley Metzler referred to as hot and cool versions.
rearadmiral All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Aug 7 2019 : 4:43PM
I don't know if this is anywhere near an answer, but years ago in North America (and it may still be the case) hotels wanted to offer adult pay-per-view because they made a lot of money off of it but the laws didn't allow them to show explicit hardcore. (But my hazy memory also tells me that it may not have been laws but threatened boycotts by the religious types.) So to get around this there were often two versions of movies because the studios could make tons of money off of both.
 
kristin
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Posted - Aug 8 2019 : 2:23AM
I suspected that, but since this site is visited by real pornographers, I really wanted to know the technical details, obviously these movies are full porn movies with a story line not a scenes compilations, much like softcore porn, but I really want to know the technical details on how/when this "softer" content is shot. For instance, in sex tricks: Inganno 's the last scene, Alison Star Had sex with her thong pulled aside, while in the softcore version, you can see (if you look very closely) that the thong went off, the same thing could be said about the blowjob part, she is faking the act.

So when the softer content was shot? Before, after, in-between takes of the hardcore?

lex von v
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Posted - Aug 8 2019 : 5:17AM
^ don't know if it is shot before or after, but in a tweet Mike Quasar mentioned that he shoots a softcore version of basically every movie of his. And his actors chimed in about the silly act of dry humping


found it: [Tweet is no longer available]

Edited by - lex von v on 8/8/2019 5:54:24 AM

Flash All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Aug 8 2019 : 12:25PM
The only way to get that answer would be to ask the director of that specific film specifically about that scene. There isn't a "standard" to how footage is shot and it would vary from production to production.
kristin
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Posted - Aug 8 2019 : 5:24PM
Flash & lex von v, thank you both so much for your effort and taking part.

As for asking the director, i guess it is a hit and miss, some might answer, some might not and research on IAFD shows that these films are at least a decade old, so I'll try but if anyone can add anything I'll be grateful.

evilpineapples
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Posted - Aug 8 2019 : 5:34PM
I've only worked in the gonzo part of the industry, so I had no idea this was something that feature producers did. Too funny! They should do a radio version too, for consumers who want to listen to some porn on the go. XD
kristin
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Posted - Aug 8 2019 : 5:48PM
I guess that is called phone sex, it predated webcams and Skype shows.
hassmole
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Posted - Aug 8 2019 : 6:42PM
yes but this was way back in the 90s with PPV. I think some scenes look the same but zoom up closer / play with the angles or cut away the naughty bits. A lot of the foreplay I guess was in both versions.
I remember a floppy penis in a doggy style scene with the woman in front - it wasn't penetrating, it was just sort of flopping around.

Don't know what movie it was but I can probably name at least three movies from that period (one with Sydnee Steele/ one Farrah/ and one with Lisa Ann) with hard and soft versions.

hoochimama
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Posted - Aug 8 2019 : 7:28PM
You can easily tell that a lot of the japanese softcore/pinku eiga you see nowadays is just hardcore movies with the naughty pixelated bits cropped out, they're crap really.

Personally I don't see the appeal of edited softcore versions of hardcore movies. If you have access to the hardcore version then that will do a better job of getting you off. If you're somewhere where you can't get hardcore porn and are stuck with softcore-only movies (like a hotel tv in a prudish country) then quality softcore movies and tv shows that were made from the ground up as such are much more erotic and will more easily get you off than some ridiculously castrated version of a hardcore porn. Real softcore movies usually have better production values that make the women look better and more interesting camera angles and far better plot&acting than edited hardcore movies where everything was primarily geared towards shining light on them holes.

Right now the only places producing softcore flics with any semblance of quality are Argentina, South Korea and Hong Kong (and not for long if China has its way). Hardcore pretty much killed softcore movies in the west, brazil and japan. You can check the bmoviefilms forum to read more about the remnants of softcore movie production in the US.

What I would like to see is to get an uncensored/"hardcore" peek of the action during softcore shoots with softcore actresses, a pornish BTS of sorts of softcore.

Take for instance Jayden Cole, she does hardcore G/G and softcore B/G. She never touches a dick in her hardcore work, but during softcore movies where she has sex scenes with men her male costars will be slapping their limp dingdongs against her cooch/ass (the junk may or may not be wrapped in a "sock") and her fans never get to see it. I think seeing pornish "hardcore" angles of softcore B/G sex scenes with actresses who have yet to do B/G would be pretty hot.

Edited by - hoochimama on 8/8/2019 8:02:12 PM

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Posted - Aug 8 2019 : 9:56PM
Back in the day, Vivid used to have 2 versions of the same title. And of course, I checked it out in a hotel room in the States and of course, it was the softcore version!

grover was not happy!

Mike Quasar
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Posted - Aug 15 2019 : 10:38PM
There are regions of the USA and the wider world where "cable" or "softcore" versions of movies actually still make money. If a particular studio has what's known as a "broadcast" deal, those non-explicit versions bring in much needed additional revenue in the era of free porn.

Some directors use multiple cameras and try to film both versions at the same time. I use the intro and every non-explicit moment of the scene and then shoot the hardcore. Afterwards, I have the talent shoot an additional 15 minutes of "fake sex" to complete the softcore version.

Hope that clears things up.




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