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| BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09 |  Posted - Jul 23 2012 : 8:36PMGaming is spectacular on 680. I agree it's a shame how badass his system is, but I guess he isn't doing much gaming, however, I've heard Premiere and other video editing has started to incorporate more GPU processing advantages into the code. GPUs are so superior to CPUs and a few labs in my place have GPGPU systems.   [Link] |
| BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Jul 23 2012 : 8:43PM I guess different strokes for different folks. But I will say this, if you are going to do a lot of video editing, I would save up for a hexcore in the future. Hexcore blows Quads in editing and you can save tons of time (many hours), IF YOU ARE DOING A LOT. Just look at any benchmark for video editing in hex vs quads. One other consideration, might help your rendering and editing if you do a RAID-0. Much more complicated, but might help you break the bottleneck and performance is amazing. This can be down the road though. Nice job on your first build though. [Link] |
Goldstein  All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Jul 23 2012 : 10:33PM You guys have talked me into adding this CPU cooler. Might as well do it from the start (as has been pointed out). I still can't come to a decision on a GPU card, just yet. While it mocks me, I really don't want to drop "$500" on a graphics card. Any thoughts on these GPU cards (as a low-cost solution)? ASUS ENGTX550 TI DC TOP/DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card PNY VCGGTX550TVXPB GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card Even though these are older models, they seem to have more "respect" than the ASUS GT640-2GD3 GeForce GT 640 2GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card I've referenced earlier. Help me here guys. Make your "final" GPU recommendations. I'd like to keep it under $200 (unless there is a very compelling need/reason to do otherwise), and I do like having the VGA output included, without an adapter, as the units I've mentioned all feature. I have an excellent 23" Samsung 2ms VGA monitor that I could move over to this machine (certainly for the time being), so that saves some serious coin over the short term. I can pick-up and adequate monitor, for less than $100, to keep my XP SP3 rig running (which I do plan to do). Why, you ask? Because, in servicing other people's XP computers (sometimes for real money, LOL), it is real helpful to maintain a functioning XP reference system. [Link] |
| BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Jul 23 2012 : 11:40PM I employ you too look at all benchmarks for CPU coolers that have stock Intel heatsinks and you will see how bad they are (like the graph I had). It's empirircal, but you should see for yourself. Just remember encoding, editing, and other projects will induce high load and high CPU temps, which high heat is bad for CPU. Bob and I wouldn't subject our systems to Intel heatsinks. [Link] |
| BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Jul 23 2012 : 11:43PM |
| Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Jul 24 2012 : 2:19AM In terms of brands, if you're shopping for an Nvidia-based card, I'd suggest EVGA as the manufacturer. They have excellent customer service -- second to none. If you've set your sights on GTX 550 Ti, I'd opt for this one: EVGA 01G-P3-1556-KR GeForce GTX 550 Ti Good price -- plus, right now, a significant rebate. I'm sure the Asus model you've identified is good too, although the design may vent more heat into the case than the other model. I'd stay away from PNY just because they have a small market share. [Link] |
| Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Jul 24 2012 : 12:02PM Goldstein's motherboard has an Intel Socket 1155 (for Ivy Bridge CPU's and "regular" Sandy Bridge CPU's), which the cooler does support. It also suports Intel Sockets 775, 1156, and 1366 and AMD Sockets AM2, AM2+, and AM3. ------------------- Edited by - bob on 7/24/2012 2:37:12 PM [Link] |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Jul 24 2012 : 12:26PM Many thanks to those who have contributed to Goldstein's new build odyssey. Today I placed the order for the "final" components to complete my new build. After receiving them, I will then start the assembly (I like to have everything in hand before beginning). COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 This was an excellent suggestion, and I decided (as was pointed out earlier) to just install this with the original build (as opposed to a "remove-clean-replace" operation later on). The price was right, so why dick-around about it :) ASUS ENGTX550 TI DC TOP/DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card This has the ports I want, is reviewed well by everybody, is moderately priced and seems to be all the GPU that non-gamer Goldstein needs (although the gamers seem to love this card). SAMSUNG B550 Series S23B550V ToC 23" 2ms GTG HDMI*2 Widescreen LED Monitor 250 cd/m2 1000:1 I have a slightly earlier version of this monitor and absolutely love it. For $189.99 I decided to snap one up. [Link] |
| BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Jul 24 2012 : 1:30PM Also, thermal compound and mounting heatsink can be tricky or suboptimal sometimes. I recommend you go to Youtube and watch videos on how to apply compound and seat HS. There are many good videos, you can just search. Good luck. If you have any build questions later, feel free to ask and I'll try and help. Don't forget to stress test too. PC can be fine at low loads, but crash during highs and this will allow you to fix so your system can handle lows, but especially high loads. [Link] |
| BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Jul 24 2012 : 1:32PM [Link] |
| Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Jul 24 2012 : 2:40PM [Link] |
| Bill All-Star Member 5334 Posts 6/00 | Posted - Jul 24 2012 : 9:49PM [Link] |
| BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Jul 25 2012 : 10:16PM [Link] |
| Bob All-Star Member 5516 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Jul 26 2012 : 1:10AM The Samsung monitor Goldstein purchased only has D-Sub and HDMI inputs. I didn't notice the issue until Bill pointed it out. The EVGA graphics card I suggested has no VGA output; it does have a mini-HDMI output in addition to the DVI output. To Goldstein: Use the HDMI connection between your graphics card and monitor. It's superior to the D-Sub/VGA connection. [Link] |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Jul 26 2012 : 8:44AM As it turns out, my current 23" Samsung SyncMaster P2370 monitor -- which I love -- has one input (which I was mistakenly thinking was VGA). In fact, it is a DVI input that is connected to the VGA output of my current XP SP3 system via the DVI-to-VGA cable that came included with the monitor. It's been three years since I hooked it up and Goldstein is getting senile, so I was mis-remembering it as a "VGA input." Goldstein will be using this existing 23" Samsung SyncMaster P2370 monitor on the new build system, and connecting it via DVI. I will also me moving my existing excellent Altec-Lansing sound system over to the new build system. The HDMI output on the new build system will be used for connecting directly to the HDMI input on a new large-screen TV system -- which is the next project for Goldstein's man-cave rehabilitation. ----------------------------- The new SAMSUNG B550 Series S23B550V ToC 23" 2ms GTG HDMI*2 Widescreen LED Monitor will be connected to my existing XP SP3 system. Although not obvious, nor readily apparent, the new monitor has built-in stereo speakers (probably on par with a decent laptop speaker system). There is no way that this built-in speaker system would be suitable for my new build system (which will be my primary audio and video workplace), but it will be perfect for maintaining my XP SP3 system -- and allowing me to transfer my better monitor and sound system over to the new build. The new monitor will also aestheticly match my existing monitor (both Samsung 23" ToC cabinets that match -- if not virtually identical in appearance). AND, the new monitor already has the inputs to be both backwardly compatible (VGA) and ready for the future (HDMI x2). Will this be OK with you, BYOB_Kenobi? It is a done deal  [Link] |
| BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Jul 26 2012 : 8:57AM I"ve used VGA and DVI side by side and DVI blows VGA away. Just hate to see you spend some much to use a VGA. Goldstein must have memory blanks.  [Link] |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Jul 26 2012 : 9:04AM I trust my full explanation sets your mind and heart at ease. [Link] |
| Bill All-Star Member 5334 Posts 6/00 | Posted - Jul 26 2012 : 8:57PM [Link] |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Jul 26 2012 : 9:33PM When I buy the new TV, it will be a Samsung of some flavor that has full-size HDMI ports.I've been down the new Samsung 42" TV route a few months ago with buying a new TV for my mother, and it has full-size HDMI ports. I'm not sure I want (or need) a 42" screen in my spare-bedroom man-cave, but whatever I buy will be a Samsung, and it will have full-size HDMI ports :) [Link] |
| Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Jul 26 2012 : 9:51PM [Link] |
| Bill All-Star Member 5334 Posts 6/00 | Posted - Jul 26 2012 : 10:11PM [Link] |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Jul 29 2012 : 1:36PM In the realm of "ooops, did I really overlook that," Goldstein has rectified two oversights. First, you can't plug a 1,050-watt PSU into the garden-variety UPS surge/battery-backup units the local BestBuy sells. (I always knew this, really.) So, as building day approaches (and Goldstein actually thinks about safely protecting the fucking thing when he goes to plug it in), let's spend another couple hundred dollars (it could easily be $500 for a large-wattage UPS). The AC-input side of my 1,050-watt output PSU requires 10-amp support -- and that's 1200-watts (10-amps x 120-volts = 1200-watts). Hopefully, I lucked-out with this: Ultra Xfinity 2000VA 1200w UPS w/ AVR & Digital Display - 6 Outlets, 120V, Voltage Boost, 1065 Joules, 4 Battery Backup/Surge & 2 Surge Only Outlets, 3 Year Warranty with Registration Reviews are all over the place. But, when you really start reading the negative reviews, you realize that most of them are written by morons who don't know what they're writing (whining) about. Second, my motherboard does not have IEEE 1394 (Firewire) outputs, or motherboard support for the IEEE 1394 port that my case provides on the front-panel port package. I don't use them frequently, but do on occasion (besides, I hate having "dead" ports). Hopefully, this little PCI card will work out. Again, reviews were all over the place, but not about what matters (i.e. it gets recognized and works). One thing that caught my attention are the pins on the board behind the internal port connections. I'm hoping that these are pins that will accept "MoBo-style" connections to the front-panel IEEE 1394 port (in addition to the actual "port"). If it doesn't, it only cost me $14.96 to find out (and I can still buy the <brIEEE 1394 CABLE 1' - 6 PIN M TO 2X5 M adapter cable, should I need it). Ultra ULT40109 8-Port USB 2.0/Firewire Combo PCI Card - 4 External USB 2.0, 1 Internal USB 2.0, 2 External Firewire, 1 Internal Firewire Port  [Link] |
| BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Jul 29 2012 : 8:36PM As for IEEE1394, you're behind the times man, it's all about Thunderbolt (just kidding). I've had to help mnay people at work add this functionaly/port to their PCs. It's not a big deal. Almost any major brand $20 FireWire card will do. Just plug into PCI card and you'll be fine. Most modern mobos have 1 firewire port, but no big deal. I would recommend investing in a USB 3.0 card if you don't have on motherboard. USB 3.0 (I have 3.0 external drives and other peripherals) run much faster/transfers than USB 2.0. Definitely worth it, if you don't have it on mobo. Edited by - BYOB_Kenobi on 7/30/2012 9:32:34 AM [Link] |
| BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Jul 29 2012 : 8:38PM [Link] |
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| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Jul 30 2012 : 1:57PM I'm not looking for "help" with these items; I already bought them before I posted here (just to keep you all up-to-date with the whole project). Help with UPS surge/battery backup products is something I don't need. I know what I want, what I need and how to use them. Only a fool in Florida -- especially living on the coasts -- flies bareback without BOTH surge suppression AND battery backup. Here's a comment I recently shared privately (regarding lightning strikes and the limits of what an UPS can do as far as protection): A nearby lightning strike (like on your street or property) can fry anything that is plugged-in. I, too, have everything connected with UPS power supplies, but I have still had equipment damaged in the past. The main source of damage occurs through cable and telephone connections. And, fortunately, my computers (as will the new build) are connected to the Internet via wireless. But, we had our cable modem and router fried last year -- despite UPS protection. Living in Florida, our lightning strikes are far more frequent and powerful than people living elsewhere realize -- and we are less than five miles from the Atlantic Ocean (so, we do get the direct strikes on our street multiple times during the course of a year). When the "big ones" come rolling into the neighborhood, the only safe thing to do is shut-down and unplug -- and that's exactly what I do. The real reason UPS surge/battery backup protection is so critical -- here in Florida -- is the constant momentary power blips and minor surges taking place all day long. It fucks with electronics and computers big-time. Much better to have protection keeping the power clean and running through momentary outages, than to have the expensive equipment taking the numerous little hits -- and endlessly re-setting and re-booting all the time. Trust me on this one. And, I'm not going to spend $500 on a large-wattage APC unit -- it's just too expensive (and, frankly, unnecessary). The unit I purchased will handle this task just fine (and, I'm far from skimping on it). The right deal at the right time. Edited by - Goldstein on 7/30/2012 2:30:05 PM [Link] |
| Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Sep 25 2012 : 11:27PM [Link] |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Sep 26 2012 : 11:06AM Two issues first... I need to clean-out and organize the man-cave, so that I can set everything up. Right now, I have no where to put it once I build it (hell, I don't even have the open space to work on building it). I got sick. Developed cellulitis in my right leg after a visit to Universal Studios. Way too much walking over there, made worse by the insanely long walk, both in and out, just to go back-and-forth to the parking structure. Several rounds of antibiotics, over the past month, and it's still not done with (but much better, and no longer a serious threat). Fortunately, a culture showed that, there was no staph or strep involved. [Link] |
| BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Sep 26 2012 : 6:46PM Edited by - BYOB_Kenobi on 9/26/2012 6:47:24 PM [Link] |
| Harri Patel Senior Member #SDNY he's all yours. -- Michael Steele 5110 Posts 3/03 | Posted - Sep 26 2012 : 9:59PM [Link] |
| BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Sep 29 2012 : 5:51PM [Link] |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Mar 25 2013 : 12:07PM [Link] |
| BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Mar 26 2013 : 3:38AM Have to say Samsung Pro 840 is a monster and blows Crucial M4 or intel's 510 away. Got i7-2600K 16GB RAM (4x4GB) at 2133 Z68 Asus GTX680 GPU 1050W PSU !!!!!! [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Mar 27 2013 : 5:52AM [Link] |
| BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Mar 27 2013 : 7:42PM   [Link] |
| BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Mar 27 2013 : 7:47PM I got your PM, but can't find the reply button. So basically if you are doing video editing, CAD and other crazy stuff, you want to do this. SSD (at least 128GB): put Windows or OS on this, video editing software and CAD software (anything programs that benefit from speed) traditional rotation (get a 7200RPM drive) large capacity (like 1TB at least) to store all your files and minor programs. [Link] |
| Keith_1 Member 66 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Mar 27 2013 : 8:53PM Nice setup you have there! So far I have chosen the Corsair Carbide Series 400R and the Corsair HX_Series_HX650_650_Watt_ATX. Hopefully that will be enough power. Many of you involved with multiplayer games online with your cool rigs? adt team?! [Link] |
| BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Mar 27 2013 : 9:08PM [Link] |
| Keith_1 Member 66 Posts 3/05 | Posted - Mar 27 2013 : 9:30PM I'm not heavy into games. Heck, since I had the lower rig in the past, I've offered to be that sacrificial k**l so the team could gain ground. Haha. It's all in fun. But like you said, I'll have my list written down and add up all of the power ratings for everything. [Link] |
| BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Mar 27 2013 : 10:51PM Calc [Link] |
| trout bum Deactivated User "I'm Not Here To Suck My Own Cock!" 2145 Posts 5/10 | Posted - Mar 27 2013 : 11:04PM [Link] |
| BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Mar 27 2013 : 11:08PM Edited by - BYOB_Kenobi on 3/27/2013 11:09:41 PM [Link] |
| RandomPrecision Senior Member Enjoy! 8175 Posts 3/06 | Posted - Mar 28 2013 : 5:04AM How many of them are full of porn?The case reminds me a little bit of the NZXT case I grabbed to throw my stuff in. Mine's nothing special but I like the case for $40. Got it because my hard drives were getting too hot in the storebought case. [Link] |
| BYOB_Kenobi Senior Member “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard 2684 Posts 8/09 | Posted - Mar 28 2013 : 8:14AM No, only 1 for porn. 1 drive - music & TV 1 drive - movies (backedup) 1 drive - programs, archived shareware/freeware, and games 1 drive - porn [Link] |
| Goldstein All-Star Member "You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10 | Posted - Mar 28 2013 : 3:50PM Pffft... All I can say is that, your one porn drive better be -- and I mean better be -- at least 1 TB capacity! Of course, I'll cut you some slack if you tell us you have terabytes of porn on external drives [Link] |
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