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| Walter Burns Legendary Quoter  IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no. 7564 Posts 11/02 |  Posted - Jul 25 2008 : 2:20PMI am revising [ invalid url ] and I need some help in identifying some performers. Before I add them as unknown performers, I am trying my luck here to see if any of you can ID some of them. I will make a distinction between perfs who actually perform sex and NonSex perfs. All the NonSex perfs have speaking parts. Sex performers 1) blonde from current scene 8  2) black guy from current scene 9 3) white guy from current scene 9 NonSex performers4) Madam of the male brothel  5) girlfriend of Lyn Malone's character, a schoolgirl 6) customer of the male brothel 7) teacher of Lyn Malone's character 8) guy at the male brothel (if I wouldn't know any better, I would say he is mainstream actor John Astin) 9) mechanic 1 of Sandi Pinney's race car 10) mechanic 2 of Sandi Pinney's race car 11) police officer at the end And finally, I knew all about the controversy with regards to the fact that Lyn Malone's character is only 15 years old. But this was an even bigger surprise. de Renzy used an actual underaged boy in a speaking part. He plays the son of the blonde from scene 8.  And no, he won't be added to the IAFD. [Link] |
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| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Jul 25 2008 : 2:44PM Damned if I know her name, but #6 looks a lot like the casting agent in Hollywood She-Wolves who auditions John Boland (their scene is cut on the current Alpha Blue Archives release). As for the boy, I believe he might actually be DeRenzy's real life son. Can't remember his name off hand. Use of underage actors in 70s X rated films was rare but not unheard of. Although most underage actors would only be cast in small roles as is the case here, Laura Nicholson who plays Jennifer in Jonas Middleton's masterpiece Through the Looking Glass was only 16 at the time (people have also stated that she was 14) and she has a reasonably large part and Andrea True's son in Both Ways is played by a kid who couldn't have been older than 7 or 8, and he has a fairly large role in the film. Al Poe is also attacked twice by a group of elementary school age girls in Tongue, and there's a real life baby briefly seen in the hospital sequence in Wanda Whips Wall Street. Again, because these films were REAL FILMS, it wasn't unlikely that a screenplay could call for kids to act as characters. [Link] |
| sdc Member 236 Posts 4/03 | Posted - Jul 25 2008 : 3:06PM [Link] |
| Walter Burns Legendary Quoter IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no. 7564 Posts 11/02 | Posted - Jul 25 2008 : 3:27PM The caps look good because I did a lot work on them. Most importantly, the NTSC to PAL conversion had once again fucked up the colors. The image had a yellowish-green tint. But I agree that the caps turned out reasonably well. I was lucky (and quite surprised) that the tape was in fairly good condition, especially considering it must be at least 15 years old. I have been a lot less fortunate with many other old tapes I have inherited together with this one. [Link] |
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| Walter Burns Legendary Quoter IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no. 7564 Posts 11/02 | Posted - Jul 25 2008 : 3:45PM The real reason why this was possible in the 70's and not possible any more as early as 1990 seems to have nothing to do with aesthetics. My guess is that it has all to do with ethics and economics. The 1970s are in many ways the wildest, least regulated period of film making -- not just porn, but also in mainstream. Whether it is child porn being still legal in places like Denmark, or actors dissecting a live turtle in Cannibal Holocaust, all kinds of shit can be seen in all kinds of films from the 70s that would be at least be frawned upon in these more PC-minded times. If not downright outlawed. [Link] |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Jul 25 2008 : 5:57PM I definately agree that the 70s saw the creation of some of the most amazingly fucked up movies ever made. At the same time, this lawlessness opened up limitless possibilities for filmmakers to do whatever they wanted in their films. Today, thanks mostly to silly PC restrictions, filmmakers feel burdened to make their films as un-controversial as possible. In today's world, Alex DeRenzy couldn't have made Babyface the way he did, Jonas Middleton couldn't have made Through the Looking Glass the way he did, etc. I don't think casting minors in non-sex character roles had to do anything with "ethics and economics." If the script calls for a character who is say 10, choosing someone who looks like a 10 year old is simply good casting. Again, in these wonderful PC times we live in, no screenwriter creating a script for an X rated film would dare create a character who is supposed to be a prepubescent minor (except Max Hardcore of course), but that's neither here nor there. Not at all similar content wise, but another thing which has been lost thanks to PC are realistic rape scenes in X rated films. Although the 70s definately had their fair share of "she protests at first" style scenes, so many films with good integrity depicted rape as violent and brutal rather than something a woman will just start enjoying after a while. Nevertheless, films like (Anna)Obsessed, Expensive Tastes, The Taking of Christina, etc. have had their realistic and therefore violent rape scenes heavily cut. It just doesn't make sense to me... [Link] |
| Walter Burns Legendary Quoter IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no. 7564 Posts 11/02 | Posted - Jul 25 2008 : 6:17PM [Link] |
| Walter Burns Legendary Quoter IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no. 7564 Posts 11/02 | Posted - Jul 25 2008 : 8:25PM 10 to go. [Link] |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Jul 25 2008 : 10:15PM Look no further than Larry Clark's Ken Park which features both hardcore sex and many minors in supporting roles. As a consequence, the film has almost never been played in the states nor released on video or DVD here. Why? Fear of legal problems. [Link] |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Jul 25 2008 : 10:16PM |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | Posted - Jul 25 2008 : 11:51PM A really creepy exception would be the kid used in Do Me Evil, in that movie a young boy watches his brother have sex with the babysitter, but even though it is clear that the boy isn't really 'watching' the scene the suggestion is disturbing. Interestingly enough, Rocco's Ass Collector has a similar scene but he avoids having to shoot a young boy by shooting it with a floating POV camera shot. [Link] |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Jul 26 2008 : 12:01AM Edited by - john lyons on 7/26/2008 12:03:47 AM [Link] |
| Walter Burns Legendary Quoter IAFD, supporters of beastiality. Just say no. 7564 Posts 11/02 | Posted - Jul 26 2008 : 8:36AM [Link] |
| john lyons Senior Member Co-founder of Vinegar Syndrome 1188 Posts 1/08 | Posted - Jul 26 2008 : 10:00AM [Link] |
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