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All Forums > Tech Talk > Tech Talk Forum Page 55 > SP2 & P2P
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Spew
Deactivated User

Bend over for the rod and staff of Jesus!
334 Posts
7/04
Posted - Aug 27 2004 : 6:30AM
After installing SP2 I've noticed that P2P programs don't work as well. The search results are smaller, and many of the files never seem to download. And if they do, despite the bandwith, it's always around .5kb/sec. Does anyone have this problem?
Saki
At-Large

2087 Posts
11/99
Posted - Aug 27 2004 : 9:43AM
SP2 has Windows Firewall enabled by default. This breaks a lot of programs that have any sort of network communication. You should check the Windows Firewall settings - http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/security/internet/sp2_wfintro.mspx

You can also check annoyances.org for a list of known problems with SP2.

- Saki

Spew
Deactivated User

Bend over for the rod and staff of Jesus!
334 Posts
7/04
Posted - Aug 27 2004 : 3:49PM
I disabled the firewall and it still won't let me connect to a P2P network.

(and McAFee isn't too happy either, it has random burts of v.scanning activity and false warnings).

JayBird
IVD / Pleasure Productions

NJ
23 Posts
8/04
Posted - Aug 27 2004 : 5:42PM
personal opinion, dump mcaffee. ive had nothing but problems with anything they have aver released, as far as other programs working correctly with mcaffee running in the background. grab a copy of NAV and it will definately help you in the longrun.
joeblow69
Member

946 Posts
2/00
Posted - Aug 27 2004 : 7:45PM
Apparently, SP2 changed some deep TCP settings to keep worms from going buck wild, and that can might slow down p2p programs as well. Check here for details.

Edited by - joeblow69 on 8/27/2004 7:45:36 PM

 
jamesn
Senior Member

Cambridge, MA
750 Posts
1/04
Posted - Aug 28 2004 : 5:24AM
Definetly consider NOD32 if you're in the antivirus market. It's got a better track record than NAV in detection failures over the last few years and lacks the bloat and doesn't interefere with your privacy like symantec's products do. It's a whopping 7mb download and doesn't hog system resources and slow you down like NAV.

You can't go wrong ditching the SP2 firewall in favor of the 4.xx zonealarms and my favorite kerio 2.15 since the built-in one lacks some important program-management features that come into play with many trojans

Evil_Rip
Senior Member

Power overwhelming
1117 Posts
12/99
Posted - Aug 29 2004 : 1:08AM
Can you provide a link to the NOD32 website.

as a person that has used Norton over the years it has been great until there 2004 release. There is some damn problem that it never updates successfully. I've done everything listed on their website an it still doesn't update the program. The virus definitons of couse will download correctly. but all the program updates from symantec do not.

IMHO Norton system works 2004, thumbs down!

DIAMOND DOG
Deactivated User

"Puff Daddy is crap." - Keith Richards
320 Posts
7/04
Posted - Aug 29 2004 : 4:16AM
My computer has been slightly less efficient since I downloaded my SP2 too. Everything is running a lot slower. I thought I had a virus or something, so I scanned my comp, but everything came up clean. Now after reading this, I see that the service pack may be the problem.

Question:

On the link that joeblow provided, there is another page on how to uninstall the service pack. I'm computer challenged, so here's my question: If I uninstall the SP2, will my comp just revert back to how it was before? Or will I have to reinstall what was replaced by the SP2?

P.S. Evil Rip - I've had the same problem updating my Norton Anti-Virus just like you. Still can't figure out what's wrong.

Spew
Deactivated User

Bend over for the rod and staff of Jesus!
334 Posts
7/04
Posted - Aug 29 2004 : 8:33PM
your computer will not be any worse off than SP1. security wise it wont be as good as SP2 obviously. but SP2 is overated. in just a few weeks there will be hundreds of published holes. soon, we'll need SP3 and the cycle will continue
jamesn
Senior Member

Cambridge, MA
750 Posts
1/04
Posted - Aug 29 2004 : 11:13PM
http://www.nod32.com
it's icsa-certified and beats out everything else over the last few years on the virus bulletin monthlies(virusbtn.com). the entire package is less than 10mb and might not be as oriented towards total computing neophytes, but it's pretty damn easy. The marketing team at esset should be fired, but I get the sense the company is more into licensing it's technology to larger companies rather than selling stuff to home users.

some hype to save you time....

Virus Bulletin August 2004

NOD32 wins its record 28th Virus Bulletin 100% Award!
08/18/2004 (San Diego)

NOD32 expands its record of being the only antivirus system in the world that has not missed a single “In The Wild” virus, in the comprehensive testing conducted by the industry’s leading authority, the Virus Bulletin. This record is over six years old and growing!

NOD32 for NetWare retains the distinction of functioning as two NLM’s, a module for the on-access scanner and one for the on-demand scanner. On-demand scans are performed via a command-line interface. NOD32 has had this configuration for a long while and it serves very well as a local solution on NetWare.

Of the ten (10) products tested, NOD32 was only one of two with all samples detected on both on access and on demand scanning, with no false positives. In addition, NOD32's scanning rate of the executable files was almost twice as fast of the other product with 100% detection and up to six times faster than some of the other products tested.
pc-magazine didn't include it in their latest comparison, but had this to say about it last year "Eset has done an excellent job balancing performance and outstanding protection, as proved by NOD32's continued VB100 success. Like Panda Antivirus, NOD32's real-time scanner works on a subset of file types and skips compressed files until the contents are extracted. By the time you read this, IMON will add FTP and HTTP support to POP3 for better download protection.

To help organize its myriad settings, NOD32 supports scanning profiles with different scan environments. You can easily recall profiles or use them with a robust scheduler that lets you schedule updates, scans, log maintenance, or the execution of external programs, or trigger tasks based on events, such as the first start-up of the day. NOD32's scanning logs, like those of McAfee VirusScan, contain details about scans and detected viruses, and you can specify log size and when to purge old log entries.

You can customize detection actions, but as in McAfee VirusScan, the default action is a prompt asking what to do. Like PC-cillin, NOD32 has free phone support from each of the support centers in at least 19 countries, but the calls are not toll-free. Geared more for do-it-yourselfers, Eset's Web-based support doesn't equal that of NAV or PC-cillin, but you can still get basic program help and details for repairing virus damage.

Available on many platforms, including DOS, Linux, and NetWare, NOD32 offers blazing speed and rock-solid virus protection that make it best for experts but not an ideal choice for beginners."

Spew
Deactivated User

Bend over for the rod and staff of Jesus!
334 Posts
7/04
Posted - Aug 29 2004 : 11:33PM
thanks for all the information, i'm going to end up changing some software soon. after my paid subscription expires w/ mcafee (in 2 weeks)
VStampede
Member

82 Posts
3/04
Posted - Sep 1 2004 : 7:31PM
well I wouldn't know, I don't even consider the idea of installing SP2 unless it really became necessary.

As for the other stuff, I use McAfee and never had a problem with it... in fact I have a problem with all the others. No other brand of anti-virus can run decently on my machine, who knows why. Same goes for firewalls. Either they don't have what I'm looking for or do a lousy job, reducing the speed of anything. I prefered the one I have on my old machine still running win95, Tiny Personal Firewall, version 2 something. Worked great. Recent version for winxp, hate it.

jamesn
Senior Member

Cambridge, MA
750 Posts
1/04
Posted - Sep 2 2004 : 8:36PM
the mcaffee scanning engine is actually one of the best. it's had some issues at times and has a heavy gui. i'd subjectively say kapersky, NOD32 and (painfully) are probably the real elite, but you're realistically very safe with mccaffee, panda and trend micro's offerings.



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