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Drew Black
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Posted - Apr 1 2005 : 1:57PM
I was just looking at the daily stats for our spam filter package and can't believe how much spam we're getting. Yesterday's stats:

92939 emails received
92458 were spam
87004 were to non-existant email addresses
4371 were from forged senders

I hope one of the newer anti-spam sender verification schemes start to take off and become a standard. We're just a small outfit. I can't imagine how much large companies spend each year dealing with this shit.

GaySatyr
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Half dirty ol' man; half horny ol' goat!
1684 Posts
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Posted - Apr 1 2005 : 2:09PM
A law firm in DC for whom I used to work is regularly getting a million a day (approximately 250 employees). I've just revamped my email addresses because I was/am getting well over 2000 a day.

~ GaySatyr (ABB)

VirginSurgeon
Member

LA, CA
23 Posts
3/05
Posted - Apr 1 2005 : 2:23PM
This is why I am a big fan of SPEWS, http://www.spews.org/ simply put, its a list of spammers, ip ranges and the ISP's that provide for them.

ISP gives spammer ip-
Spammer spams -
People upload spam with headers to spam newsgroup -
news.admin.net-abuse.blocklisting
SPEWS updates.

If ISP continues to host spammer, more and more blocks of their address's are added to SPEWS.

The key here is to hit the ISP that are allowing spammers
to use their resources to harass us.

It's funny to read the admins emails to spews asking to be removed because half of their email clients cant sent mail to certain domains, SPEWS people hit back with, "when you get rid of these spammers" then we will talk!

Down side is yes, people who join an ISP who is blocked will not be able to send mail to certain people, TOO BAD
deal with it, or stop putting money in the pockets of ISP's who host spammers!!

squirtfan1
Member

Flower
435 Posts
8/04
Posted - Apr 1 2005 : 2:24PM
I hate Spam, but it helps my stock EMC.
Kperv
The Cuddler

*struck
(She slipped)

1818 Posts
1/04
Posted - Apr 1 2005 : 2:27PM
How do you determine this?
By non-existing sender domains?
 
Drew Black
broken crankshaft

8009 Posts
9/99
Posted - Apr 1 2005 : 2:37PM
Sender Policy Framework. The 4371 determined to be forged are for domains that have SPF DNS records. If a domain doesn't use SPF then the spam filter doesn't do this check. (It can be configured to take various actions though based on SPF.)

Kperv
The Cuddler

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(She slipped)

1818 Posts
1/04
Posted - Apr 1 2005 : 2:54PM
Jacco All-Star Supporter
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2673 Posts
5/04
Posted - Apr 1 2005 : 3:23PM
My ISP has a nice page with some numbers:
Actual spam and virus load
The text is in Dutch so a quick translation:
gescand=scanned
onderschept=intercepted
in laatste minuut=in last minute
afgelopen uur=last hour

Depressing numbers indeed...

Jacco (Your Choice BV)

Redish All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 1 2005 : 3:43PM
My home address has been inundated in the last week. I just deleted three pages worth. Last week, I deleted one email instead of pages. I don't remember giving it out to any one either except friends.

Of course, I have some evil friends, so....

Valentino
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448 Posts
8/04
Posted - Apr 1 2005 : 5:05PM
I've got several email adresses, none of them are spammed. I only had it when I got my first hotmail account, when I was suddenly informed of naked chicks who wanted to have sex with me.

I closed that one after a while, and never got spammed since.

''Nature never deceives us; it is we who deceive ourselves. ''

The Wanderer All-Star Supporter
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192 Posts
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Posted - Apr 1 2005 : 9:18PM
My AOL account used to be inundated with spam, I mean absolutely swamped with the stuff. I continued to report this crap to AOL by forwarding the original e-mails to them over a long period of time, without any noticeable reduction in volume. Eventually I admitted defeat and pretty much abandoned several of my e-mail addresses. Then, almost overnight, the spam slowed to a trickle, and continued to decrease over several months until it became almost non-existent. The few spam messages I do receive are mostly caught by my spam trap and genuine messages get through without a problem.

The latest version of AOL's e-mail client has a 'Report Spam' button. No idea if it does anything useful, but I click on it anyway for the odd strays that evade capture. I'm not sure if AOL deserve credit for this dramatic change of events, or perhaps something went wrong at Spam Central and my e-mail addresses disappeared from their lists? Whatever the reason it appears that spam is a thing of the past, for me at least.

The Gemologist
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Isn't she cute?
217 Posts
2/05
Posted - Apr 1 2005 : 9:25PM
I get about no spam. On the occasion I do, I never open the email. I just keep ignoring the one source of spam and it will go away if you don't acknowledge it.
DenverDon
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7/02
Posted - Apr 1 2005 : 9:45PM
I am flabbergasted at the numbers you guys are quoting. I have three email accounts, and only one gets any amount of spam at all, and that is maybe 5 per day.

DenverDon <<<<[[[[

Drew Black
broken crankshaft

8009 Posts
9/99
Posted - Apr 1 2005 : 11:10PM
I updated our spam filter recently and it's a helluva lot better than the old version. 1,000 - 1,500 spam emails used to make it through to the various mailboxes I have here. Now it's less than 100 a day and 90% of them are automatically routed to the junk email folder.
Jacco All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 1 2005 : 11:43PM
Try having the webmaster account for a pornsite, for some reason spammers seem to think we want to buy porn from them in stead of selling it...

My main personal account I have had for over 10 years and it is just jacco@ and I refuse to give up such a nice address because of those spamming assholes. All that advice about not giving anybody your email is nice for newbies, but I started out on the net when using your real email address on usenet or websites was normal and there was no spam. So now my address is probably on every spamlist around, but I won't give in. I have a chain of different spamfilters on all my addresses and so far this year 77 spams managed to get through (less than 1 a day) and many, many thousands have been blocked. I stopped keeping exact stats when spam became more than 90% of my mail some time ago.
(I do have some 20 addresses I regularly use, but eventually almost all of them end up on my homecomputer, through various routes)

For addresses to use for website registration I strongly advise Spamgourmet, the best way to get disposable addresses without hassle.

Jacco (Your Choice BV)

 
Ramsey
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10/02
Posted - Apr 2 2005 : 4:30PM
I wonder if we will ever get rid of spam. I personally get like around 200 spam messages each day. I used Mailwasher in the past to filter my e-mail and to block adresses but the spam was too much for Mailwasher to handle, meaning it took to much time to work with it to handle all the spam.
Drew Black
broken crankshaft

8009 Posts
9/99
Posted - Apr 2 2005 : 6:35PM
I recently read Dan Brown's Digital Fortress which deals with a lot of NSA encryption/snooping stuff.

There's a lot of stuff out there that seems to corroborate the claims in the book (it is fiction after all) that the NSA is capable of snooping all email transmissions in the US and most of them around the world looking for word partterns.

This makes me wonder if the increase in spam isn't just because more people are trying to sell snake oil via email. I wonder if the drastic increase in email volume is an effort to make it more difficult for governments to snoop on its citizens? I know, consipracy theories, etc.

astroknight All-Star Supporter
Questionable Moderator

Tastes so good...
4187 Posts
11/99
Posted - Apr 2 2005 : 7:02PM
I'm assuming that works for the my.adultdvdtalk.com addresses too? If so, thank you! That would explain why my spam numbers have dropped off drastically recently. I normally get at least 200 a day, and I think recently it dropped to under 50. Heck, today there were only 17 waiting for me rather than the 40 - 50 I'd normally expect overnight.

"Vegetarianism for me is about saying ‘yes’ to things - even meat." - Coupling

jamesn
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Cambridge, MA
750 Posts
1/04
Posted - Apr 2 2005 : 7:34PM
i've noticed less of it from china and i'm not alone. apparently the government decided it wasn't good for commerce overall and well, you just don't want to fuck with the chinese government. the former soviet union and korea are hopeless though.

here's a really good explanation of how spammers find you and what to avoid doing to make things easy for them from the center for democracy and technology, sorry about pasting-does anyone have a decent macro so i don't punch my monitor in when hyperlinking here?


http://www.cdt.org/speech/spam/030319spamreport.shtml

Bornyo
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803 Posts
12/04
Posted - Apr 2 2005 : 7:37PM
On the other hand, the comforting thing about this is, it's the federal government doing the snooping. I have no faith in the government to patch a pothole much less to read every email that gets tossed around. When they sign a big contract with Microsoft or Sun Microsystems or Google to monitor email then I might get worried.

What was the system that just leaked out as a failure? Carnivore or something like that.

I'd love to see the list of keywords they programmed - car-bomb, bureau, allah, max hardcore, muslim, incendiary, agency, brandon irons, police, jihad, osama, wankus, iraq, saddam, ayatollah. The list, I'm sure, goes on and on.

Bill All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 2 2005 : 11:13PM
What browser are you running? If Firefox, I love the BBCode Extension
Hurrab
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Denmark, EU
256 Posts
3/03
Posted - Apr 3 2005 : 8:00AM
So what you're saying is that we should be grateful for spam because it may help us protect our privacy?

- - -

I used to receive an ever-increasing amount of spam in my Hotmail box, but now most of it is automatically filtered and placed in the junk mail folder. There's also a built in function that allows the user to report junk mail to MSN/Microsoft, but they do afterwards - if anything at all - I don't know.

I agree with Bill that the ISPs should be held responsible if they allow spammers to use their servers and/or Internet connections.

Edited by - Hurrab on 4/3/2005 8:00:44 AM

The Wanderer All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Apr 3 2005 : 7:40PM
The last time I checked my Adult DVD Talk address, it was full of spam messages with titles like 'Your Viagra Prescription Is Waiting For You Astroknight' and 'You Need This Astroknight'. Which is strange, considering the fact that my name isn't AstroKnight!! Maybe they sent all your spam to me by mistake?

You'd think the spammers would at least make the effort to get my name right!

astroknight All-Star Supporter
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Tastes so good...
4187 Posts
11/99
Posted - Apr 4 2005 : 1:07PM
That's okay. You can have my spam.

"Vegetarianism for me is about saying ‘yes’ to things - even meat." - Coupling




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