and vice versa (gets by almost purely based on their performances and not looks) looks not perf. hannah hilton. such beauty and perfect tits make up for her "vanilla" performances. now dont get me wrong, i find most pornstar perfromaces "vanilla", only those that get down right dirty and nasty impress me (the only somewhat vanilla performer that i really enjoy watching is rachel starr, because of her "fuck -me-back" move and amazing cock riding second only to naomi) perf. not looks gia paloma, ashley blue on the other hand, i didn't find too attractive but their performances were always top notch. they always went all out. what say you ADTers?
i always liked gia paloma but just cuz she looked like a girl who went to high school with me . traditionally i wouldnt say she was a beauty but her attitude and body were pretty sexy. i ll controversially add alexis texas to that list. she has a great ass and a lot of fans but she never has seemed exceptionally dirty or all that into the sex in her scenes. also shyla stylez seems to just be there in her scenes. and basically any girl who has done a lot of work for brazzers. i know a lot of hardcore performers do work there but that website is full of a lot of girls with very few movie credits but a lot of web work. although that may be telling more of the tamer style of web sites in general compared to dvd companies like evil angel who are pretty hardcore and limit pushing.
I thought about that thread too when I noticed this more recent creation, and so far not many posters have done the 'vice versa' thing, which I suspect is somewhat predictable really (though this is a new thread, so I should give it time). A pretty much forgotten ex-performer, who I loved specifically for her 'down home looks' (compared to her contemporaries, the uber-babelicious Chasey Lains, Stacey Valentines, Jill Kellys etc.) in combination with her sexual intensity and enthusiasm was Nicole London. The fact she seemed like a normal chick doing porn (and more than just vanilla) I found incredibly hot. (#555) Edited by - Sexy Sadie on 1/31/2012 4:11:29 AM
It's always interesting to me to see some of the names that come up when people start talking about who they think are and aren't good performers. Some of the names that come up as not good performers from some people makes me wonder what they base a performance on. For me looks are always the most important thing. If I find a girl hot she can get away with a low energy "vanilla" performance and I'll still like her. There are plenty of pornstars I'm into just for their looks and those looks make up for their less than exciting performance. With me if I don't find the girl attractive/sexy in some way I don't care how great/wild her performance is I have no interest. But then I have to admit there are also some girls I think are goodlooking but I have no interest in them for some reason. For example, I think Tori Black is really goodlooking and solid performer but I have no interest in her I couldn't explain why. Yet there are lots of girls I'm big fans of that aren't as goodlooking or as good a performer as Tori and I can't get enough of them.
^ I'm a huge Tera fan but her scenes are rather vanilla. But I always girls like her the benefit of doubt because VIVID makes a certain type of movie with a certain type of performance. If Tera made a movie for Jules Jordan I'm sure her performance would be different. Tera's earlier performances with TT Boy were hotter than her VIVID stuff for example.
I've never understood Tera Patrick's detractors. Maybe their thinking is colored by the perception that anyone that beautiful can't be any good in bed. (I've heard first-hand comments from people who've had the opportunity to spend some quality time with Playboy Playmates, who say that many suffer from "golden pussy syndrome".) The Tera Patrick who's wasted many of my potential offspring gives head attentively, fucks with a style that, while somewhat subdued, nonetheless conveys passion and eroticism, and has enough facials on her resume that she can't be considered a dodger. I lost interest when she got the boobjob, but, thankfully, there's plenty of earlier naterial to keep me happy, though I wish she'd done a least a blowbang. On the other side of the coin, I don't wish to publicly characterize a woman as not pretty. I think we can agree that we all like different things. But two women whom I never watched because I didn't find them attractive and who, in my opinion, became big more because of their performances than their looks: Belladonna and Mila.
i agree. in fact it's her performances that made me attracted to her and not her features (she is so good she became very fapable). BUT she actually does look pretty scrumptious nowadays with her shorter brown hair. shame she has cut back so much. i actually think belladonna is the true modern-day (90s to now) queen of porn with sandra romain pretty close behind. oddly enough though she has neever won an avn for female performer of the year and neither have jenna jameson or tera patrick. as for vanilla, completely agree with alexis texas and jayden jaymes. both are very hot but they are so boring/vanilla that i don't even watch them. it's the reverse effect (of the belladonna situation earlier). their vanilla scenes have made them "un-fapable" to me. can't eve watch them anymore really. http://www.change.org/petitions/brazzers-produce-porn-with-average-thin-cocks-that-doesnt-involve-sph
definitely agree with the last paragraph. tori black especially is pretty scrumptious but doesn't do much for me. can't explain. another classic case lanny barby. our dicks like what our dicks like, eh :D http://www.change.org/petitions/brazzers-produce-porn-with-average-thin-cocks-that-doesnt-involve-sph
ye rachel starr is possibly the sexiest (along with cherokee d'ass, kelly divine, claire dames & lisa ann) in the biz now and she actually delivers pretty decent scenes because of her skills though her scenes are typically vanilla. meaning she performs in vanilla scenes and is in many cases "safe"/doesn't push any boundaries but because of her cock riding and doggy skills she makes up for it. to me, though, i can tell she basically does porn JUST for the money and will get the hell out of dodge (retire) as soon as she thinks she's juiced it for all it's worth. heard a radio interview and she basically confirmed my suspicions. it's always good to see or feel your favorites plan to stick around (eg. setting up their own sites and shooting their own content) and actually love porn for more than just the quick money. http://www.change.org/petitions/brazzers-produce-porn-with-average-thin-cocks-that-doesnt-involve-sph
Give me time and I could think of half-a-hundred performers that 99% of the guys on this board go gaga over, and whom I have to confess that I just don't get. It's not them -- I'd be all over them in a heartbeat if I had the chance to do so in person -- it's me. I never got Jenna Jameson, even before the boobjob. I want so much to like Audrey Bitoni, but those tits just drive me away. I want to like Faye Reagan, but ... I don't know. Some I don't get and may or may not would like to like: Amy Reid, Veronica Vanoza, Sandra Romain, Anette Schwartz ... plenty more. Like I said, it's not them, it's me, and, like Draxxx, I can't really explain it.
Here's another I just thought of: Ashlyn Rae. This young woman has gone from really pretty girl to f'n gorgeous as she's matured. I'd pay good money to sit across the table from her and watch her drink a glass of water. Yet her performances always underwhelm me. She seems to be removed from the sex, as if she's merely allowing her partners to fuck her, and her determination not to let any semen past her lips makes her facials lukewarm.
^ strange I had a different view of her scenes for example in a bed smiling to the stud while going all fours then protruding her back to the man , watching him in his eyes smiling even more than before and waving her ass in the process. I can say anything about that scene bur surely she was more than asking to get fucked in there without saying a word , if I recall well was a parody. also this alone is more than enough to get me aroused. I got this pic captured from my copy of Friends and Family , was my desktop image for a while:
Edited by - Laurie Cameron Fan on 2/2/2012 11:15:18 AM
Not quite the same thing but I kinda feel this way about Kelly Stafford from the Rocco movies although I find it interesting watching her. To me she kinda has the vibe of "Here I am, do whatever you want to me..." and she does some crazy stuff sometimes but I don't get the feeling she's horny for any of it. She even seems to be having fun with it but she never seems to be have the attitude of "Wow! This is so good! Don't stop!". I can't even say she looks like she doesn't like it and at times she even seems to be having fun. But to me she doesn't seem like she's turned on by it. She just seems like having a good time letting guys/girls do stuff to her but it's not making her hot. But I do like watching her although it's a different vibe.
After thinking about it I realize I never got into Jenna or girls like Stormy Daniels, Jessica Drake and other some other girls who I think are very goodlooking because even though I think they are pretty I don't find them sexy. That's not to say they aren't sexy but I don't personally find them sexy even though they are goodlooking. I have the same thing with some Hollywood women. For example, I think Nicole Kidman and Jessica Alba are both very pretty but they don't have much sex appeal to me. On the other hand I don't think Christina Ricci is as goodlooking as either but I find her to be much sexier for whatever reason.Different girls have different appeals for me. I think Amy Reid is pretty and a good performer but I don't find her sexy even though I think she has a killer body, I'm indifferent about her. Not a turn off but not a girl I go out of my way to watch. I find Sandra Romain so sexy it elevates her looks (not that she's bad looking but her sex appeal makes her even better looking). Annette Schwarz to me is sexy because of her performances. Annette is a nice looking girl but not all that special... but when the scene starts her sex appeal goes waaaay up.
(Category 1 - performance elevates looks): Ashley Blue Amber Rayne (does have a killer body) Belladonna Annette Schwarz Naudia Nyce (Category 2 - looks make up for performance. I wouldn't say they "get by on their looks", more that they are frustratingly inconsistent): Jayden Jaymes Amia Miley Alanah Rae Brooke Haven Jenni Lee Faye Reagan (I've seen her phone it in a few times.) - Note: Since they've started doing anal Jayden and Alanah's stock has gone way up for me. (extra category - looks better when they're not having sex): Lauren Phoenix Tori Black (sorry...) (extra category - deceptively great performers whose style is softer and less extreme): Lexi Belle Kagney Linn Karter (got more hardcore recently)
People tell lies my friend. Some people like publicity. I don't like publicity. 674 Posts 5/11
Posted - Feb 3 2012 : 4:43PM
As someone else mentioned, the one person who fits this thread is Allie Sin. What a turn on she is. I first saw her dressed as a cheerleader in Young Cheerleaders Swap N' Swallow 2 (2004). The girl is beautiful. The reason why the performance is not that hot is because there is little to no chemistry between the people they are paired with. It is only natural if you don't really want to be there. [Link]
People tell lies my friend. Some people like publicity. I don't like publicity. 674 Posts 5/11
Posted - Feb 3 2012 : 7:23PM
Pure speculation on my part but if you do not enjoy your work you will not show much enthusiasm while at work. In contrast, if you like what you are doing it will show.
"Allie Sin" grew up under rather awful circumstances, including almost literally falling through the cracks of the child protective system of her home state. The case is frankly notorious in the social services field.
Oh come on, Lauren Phoenix is a goddess. She is my ultimate favorite...so I just felt compelled to respond. :) But of course this is an opinion thread, and everyone has their own views.
It is precisely the disconnected feeling resulting from anger against her dad that makes watching Stephanie Draheim's aloof performances true pieces of art. She brings reality into porn...real life reality.
"You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10
Posted - Feb 14 2012 : 7:20PM
Thankfully, Brooke has had a few facials (very few). I think I've seen three, maybe four. Here's one. The pics don't show it, but the initial spurts do hit her mouth and lips Brooke has had some scenes I've really enjoyed. Alas, many just don't get all that interesting -- which is insane given how physically attractive she has been (I'm not loving the boob-job and all the ink she's added). And, I'm not talking about anal or more extreme/harder sex. I prefer "vanilla" sex -- BJs, facials, handjobs, vaginal sex -- so, in theory, a pretty girl like Brooke should really have rocked my world. No doubt, her cum-dodging and lack of facials really colored my enjoyment of her work :( I've always had the feeling that, Brooke didn't want to do facials, and because of "getting by on her looks" managed to get lots of work anyway. Almost as if she was "too good" to take facial cumshots (and I mean the way it came across -- as I know nothing about her, her personality, her terms/conditions for shooting scenes, or, for that matter, what was asked of her by the studios and directors). On the other hand, take classic cum-dodger August. Even though she usually kept her lips zipped-shut, and "carefully" received facials, I found her incredibly appealing. The first time I saw August, with her original short dark hair, I was hooked! more August
Agree with both Brooke Banner and August, Goldtrein. For different reasons though. I'd add Alexa Rae from the late 90's/early 2000's. Hot as hell, bad attitude. Don't see Rachel Starr, Alanah Rae, and most certainly don't see Shyla Stylez though. Different strokes, for different folks.
"You have sacrificed nothing and no one." 3689 Posts 8/10
Posted - Feb 15 2012 : 8:11AM
^ If I left you with the impression that I thought August "{got} by on looks and not performance," I didn't mean to suggest that at all. What I was trying to do was contrast two cum-dodgers: One (Brooke) who never really delivered, versus August, who managed to be very good despite her fear of cum
Paige Turner, does anyone remember her? Incredible cute and innocent looking, but never looked like she was enjoying herself. That might have been part of her gig for all I know, in that case, its the wrong thread, but I couldn't help thinking about her. When I first saw her my jaw dropped, it was like discovering Jessica Alba in porn.
I don't agree with the Tori Black criticism at all. She's a very good performer. If I had to grade her performance on a scale from 1 to Kristina Rose (or 10 if you want), she's a 9. It's not Tori's fault that she's so gorgeous that people are distracted from the sex. Edited by - JohnW on 2/15/2012 2:34:22 PM
Adding Karlie Montana to the list. She is a cutie, great ass and a lovely pair of tits, but she seems absent in her scenes...
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Posted - Feb 15 2012 : 7:50PM
Look at her scenes where she interacts with dudes, role-plays or just toys with a huge life-like dildo, she's a lot more lively there than on her carpet munching scenes.
Two come immediately to mind (not sure if that is a good thing)-Brooke Haven, Shy Love and (a third), Carmella Bing...one more Dillan Lauren. They each, I felt , had that double-take type of effect, but seem to consistently be below my expectations (my top ratings)...To be fair, Dillan and Brooke have had their moments (scenes or moments within a scene) that delivered. Perhaps, being the gonzo guy that I am, and their respective active years-others without question raised their game, while my seeming growing list did not. I will further state, that it is not all on them, some credit must be given to production, management, boy friends, etc...
wow^^^^^^^^^^ totally surprised with that response all 3 brooke haven carmella bing and shy love do anal and do it well i see them in a dvd and i buy it! dont really see how you can name them, they are 3 of my fav ( i dont consider any of those 3 HOT by any means so there is no way they would get by on looks) i think they are awesome performers who always have great scenes
The aforementioned performers, I felt were for lack of a better word-DRY, However, anal scenes are almost a prerequisite with my choices and each did or have done quite a few scenes within that genre (mostly insufficient to me). Bare in mind 'beauty is in the eye...', so I would like to mention a couple of performers who grew on me, but were mostly overlooked for a reasonable period of time and again two come to mind (certainly there are more, I'm sure): Aline and Mia Banggg-man did each of them become SUPER hot to me- I would contribute that to their performances-their willingness to give all that was demanded and seemingly enjoyed each 'fuckN' moment. A more recent performer for me is Kelly Devine- there was a period for me, i thought, her ass is too big, over performing (fake), etc...and I was missing out. I have come to appreciate her work. Anyway, It is good Brooke and the others are some of your favs, continue to enjoy.