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| pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10 | These days it takes months or years before a performer does anal and often it's in a gonzo title lacking heat. We are all thrilled that said performer has given up her rosebud but other than that the heat and passion is simply not there. |
| Derek117 Senior Member 1605 Posts 1/06 | Ten years later girls coming into the biz have taken more control over career choices like anal, IR, and gangbangs. Even in today's porn production depression, and despite being pushed by agents to take any work available, many performers are choosing not to do anal or IR, and gangbangs are almost extinct. Too bad because I love a good anal scene like Teagan, Careena Collins, or Sunset Thomas could produce. |
| pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10 | I can understand holding out for a bigger paycheck for certain acts like IR, anal, DP, lesbian and so on, but I wonder at what point do you market yourself outside of most studios budget or simply get superseded by the new flavor of the month? I also don't think it's a good idea, from a business standpoint, to withold certain acts for your own site. For one thing you are no longer getting paid for those acts but are banking on people paying to see you do those acts. The cost of starting and maintaining a website is a significant investment. if you aren't computer savy then it means paying someone to take care of it. Then you need a credit card processor so part of your profit goes to them. Now you need someone to film and take pictures so more money. You haven't gotten one penny yet but you have already spent many thousands of dollars. |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | |
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| pat362 Senior Member 10083 Posts 3/10 | Anal has been in porn since at least the 70's and it's getting more popular as time goes by. If your question was meant to say that anal sex would be banned in the US then that would be great news for every other Country that produces porn because they would make a killing. |
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| titguy Member Tits Are The Sustenance of Life 46 Posts 10/11 |
I'm considering switching my avatar to either Alice Goodwin, or Ala Passtel: model faces PLUS world class big tits. (I'll post pics, if I can ever figure out how to upload them onto a post. Help, anyone?) TitGuy Edited by - titguy on 11/1/2011 10:47:07 AM Edited by - titguy on 11/1/2011 11:03:30 AM |
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| budtugley Senior Member One man's trash can be the next man's treasure. 1187 Posts 1/04 | ![]() Edited by - budtugley on 12/7/2011 6:32:53 PM |
| HollywoodBilderbergGroup Deactivated User Undiscovered Genius 361 Posts 7/11 | With that said, they all should be doing it if they wanna be in this industry. |
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| Lone Wolf Senior Member LANA means ANAL :) 9658 Posts 4/11 | |
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| evilpineapples Member ONE TWO THREE, KUUUCKMAAAL! 705 Posts 6/13 | This is different. This is an unfulfilled promise that blatantly exploits the portion of their fanbase that wants to see anal, and I promise you they know exactly what they're doing. The longer they wait, the less likely I am to buy their scenes. I hate that carrot-dangling shit. Either do it or don't, but don't waffle around making promises you don't keep. Edited by - evilpineapples on 4/27/2015 1:32:31 AM |
| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 | I think women in porn should feel free to change their mind any time they want about doing anal and anything else. Because a lot of women in porn initially say that they won't do anal, when they start out. But then over the years, they change their mind and do anal anyway. If these women are made to feel that they have to keep their word forever and ever, as though they are married to their word without any possibility of divorce, then this probably will discourage many women from doing anal porn. The reason why many women in porn don't do anal at first but later change their minds and start doing anal is because the porn industry is so open and non-judgmental about having anal sex. Women, who enter the porn industry, make friends with others in the porn-industry, including guys and gals who do anal porn. When your friends like something and are into it, then this naturally makes you feel predisposed to do it too. But of course, this kind of thing depends on who the ladies make friends with. And if they change their friends, then this can change their minds too. Which is probably what happens for ladies who say that they will do anal, but then later change their mind. Edited by - Dan on 4/27/2015 6:39:03 AM |
| evilpineapples Member ONE TWO THREE, KUUUCKMAAAL! 705 Posts 6/13 |
But there's a difference between changing your mind and waffling back and forth about something on a consistent basis for years. This isn't about some stupid misogynist bullshit like "she deserves to get ass-fucked if she does porn". It's about integrity. It's about not exploiting your fans. Gender doesn't factor into it. |
| BlackSix All-Star Member pornography wasn't sex but fantasies of an impossibly hospitable world 12377 Posts 9/07 | |
| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 |
It's not much of a freedom when you need to do what others tell you, or else they'll have something against you. Real freedom is when people respect your decisions and don't pressure you one way or the other. I think it's okay for guys to ask the lady for anal sex. And if she doesn't tell guys to stop talking to her like that, then eventually guys might persuade her to have anal sex with them. And there is nothing wrong with that. Guys should have a chance to persuade the pretty lady, as long as she is willing to listen. But if you start holding a grudge against the lady, just because she said 'No', then this is sexual harassment according to most definitions of it. Edited by - Dan on 4/28/2015 7:49:07 AM |
| evilpineapples Member ONE TWO THREE, KUUUCKMAAAL! 705 Posts 6/13 | I am NOT saying that porn stars cannot say "No" to anal. I am NOT saying that they cannot change their minds about doing anal after making a public declaration that they will do it. Nor am I saying that they should FEEL like they cannot do those things. To my knowledge - and please correct me if I'm wrong - neither of these women have said "No" to anal. They've simply said "We're going to do anal", on a consistent basis over a period of years, and then completely failed to deliver on that statement. That is manipulative behavior. They are stringing their fans along because they know that a portion of them want to see anal, but they know that the longer they wait, the bigger their brand becomes and - theoretically - the more money and exposure they will get from doing the anal scene. (Or showcase DVD or whatever it turns out to be.) This has happened time and time again in the porn industry, especially with contract girls. It is a marketing tactic. If they're delaying because of personal doubts, that's fine, but they haven't said anything. If they're delaying because they want to be ready for the scene, that's fine too, but they haven't said anything about that either. Of course, they don't have to say anything, but do you not see the pattern of manipulation that underlies that kind of behavior? Why should we respect that? These discussions are always weird because we're combining points about individual sexual rights with points about proper business conduct. That ambiguity comes with the territory when you're talking about porn. So let me make my stance clear, clearly and definitively. * NOBODY "deserves" to do anal (or any sex act) just because they said they would. * NOBODY should be begrudged for declining to do anal (or any sex act), even if they previously said they would. I'm making a point about the mixed signals being sent to the fans, which are, judging from past examples in the industry, very likely an intentional marketing tactic that is employed to exploit fan interest in the idea of anal sex in order to increase brand recognition and potential payouts for the model... at the cost of disrespecting the intelligence and integrity of the fans. They shouldn't feel like they have to do anal. They shouldn't feel like they have to rush doing anal. BUT, they should feel like they need to be more communicative with the people that are supporting their livelihood and growing their brand. Do you understand the distinction? Edited by - evilpineapples on 4/28/2015 6:25:21 PM |
| Dan Senior Member 2056 Posts 6/07 | Being free includes being free to be undecided for as long as you want. The thing about personal rights and freedoms is that people don't lose them, when they get involved in some commercial activity, such making porn for example. These freedoms are guaranteed by the US Constitution for all US citizens equally. Which means that porn-stars have exactly the same Constitutional rights and freedoms as everyone else has. Nobody can come to your home and force you to make a decision about having some kind sex that you might feel good about. And even in public places, nobody is allowed to harass you about making such a decision. And that's the way it is for porn-stars too. Because they have same rights and freedoms as you have. |
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| evilpineapples Member ONE TWO THREE, KUUUCKMAAAL! 705 Posts 6/13 | You're still talking about a different issue. I'm going to cut this off here because it's now clear that you're twisting my words to force a "debate" about personal freedoms that was never raised or suggested in any of my posts. I even went out of my way to delineate exactly what I was trying to say and you still don't get it. They don't have to do anything. They can be undecided for as long as they want. I never debated either of those points. Edited by - evilpineapples on 5/5/2015 1:51:27 AM |
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