We watched Manuel Ferrara's "Ass Attack" the other night and thought the video deserved an A+ for chemistry, videography and romantic anal scenes. However.....
One scene bothered me just a bit and I thought I would bring it up to see how whacked you think I am. Scene 5 was titled "Hurry Up Slut" with Jasmine Byrne and Michael Stefano. The scene opens with Michael slouched down on the couch unshaven, dressed in a tacky looking collarless tee shirt, blue jeans with no belt and bare feet I think. He is asked about Jasmine and says she is hot and he can't wait to fuck her. Then Michael yells out into the other room, "Jasmine!!" like he's calling his dog. That's her cue to enter the scene and she looks great.
Ok my question is what's up with these porn guys that they always come to the set looking like the cat just dragged them in. Meanwhile, if the women ever showed up on set looking all bedraggeled, unkempt and dressed like a slob, they would never get onto another set. Is it my imagination or are there two different dress code standards for porn sets: one for the women and one for the guys?
It kinda makes me think these guys are not only disrespecting the women in porn they work with; they are at the same time disrespecting us porn fans who pay to watch these videos. What do you think, what am I missing here?
I never really pay attention to what the guy is dressed like in a scene. The focus is almost always on the girl: her butt, her boobs, her legs, etc. The main focus on the guy is his penis.
The only time I notice anything about a guy is when the shot isn't tight on the action, and he's got still has his white Reebok shoes and white socks on. I just find that funny.
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Eric381 Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 7 2006 : 7:23PM
Dude, you take it WAAAYYY you seriously!
Was he supposed to arrive suit-n-tie or something? Should he be top-n-bottomed in Versace?
I really dig Mike's look in that scene... he's chilling, saving all his energy for later, Jasmine is quite a handfull...
It's the same thing at any job - women have a vast variety of diffirent styles to chose from, while men are quite limited. I hope never to see male performers wearing sexy lingerie...
Your average porn isn't made for men and women. It's made for men. Your average male porn viewer would rather see as little of the stud as possible, and probably never really looks at the stud when he does get screen time. Ergo, he's not going to complain just because the stud isn't well dressed or groomed. Besides, that would be gay, would it? lol
Of course, there are exceptions.
As for why Stefano couldn't be bothered to dress nicely, you'll have to ask him. My speculations would be just that, speculation.
This is an interesting topic. Consider someone like Michael Jordan who went to games dressed in a suit looking like a professional. That was his attitude, that he was going to work.
Look how well dressed Rocco is in his movies. He looks like he goes to dressed well because he loves his job.
Look now at all the parolee's that populate videos these days. It's like seeing guys trying to make their rent instead of someone who takes pride in his work.
I like hearing about girls who are professional about their make-up and are ready to go. I would hope it would be the same for the guys.
If anything, I'd like to see pride in more of the actors, like they genuinely enjoy what they're doing as opposed to just trying to get through the scene.
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_swede_ Deactivated User
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Posted - Feb 8 2006 : 5:55AM
yeah I agree that there's a big double standard.
I think that the guys should make an effort, I think it's much more turning on if you see that girl is really turned on by they guy. (and that it's realistic.. so the girl isn't super hot and they guy looks like a slob with a beer belly)
I also think that everone in porn should be hairfree, both the guys and the girls. I think pubic hair is gross, and gross to watch..
I thought Michael Stefano was one of the best looking guys in porn... Personally I'd like to see the girls more casual too... I mean, jeans makes the female ass look amazing...
I'd love to see women in jeans and everyday clothes more often. Especially behind the scenes stuff. I saw an interview with Jamie Huxley recently and she sat there answering questions in the buff. Certainly nothing wrong with that, but I'd love to see this gorgeous woman and many others the way they look when they're not working.
One of my favorite girls, who's now out of the biz, is Katin. She did a BTS with jeans and a baseball cap and it was just so out of the norm that it was cool.
Hardware, we like Stefano and think he likes women and they like him. He's one of the better looking gonzo guys. His scenes could be hotter for us if he would shave and the girl could unbutton his shirt or unbuckle his belt and unzip a pair of tailored slacks (they have one helluva time with jeans). Most of his scenes wind up with him with his jeans down around his ankles until he is able to kick them off or there is a cutaway. It's all too sloppy for our tastes and you are right not all directors movies are that way.
I would be interested in Michael's answer, but he's more the norm than the exception. We see lots of tee shirts and tattered jeans with no belt ... I think its gotta be the accepted dress code. I like jeans better than the sweat pants. Sweats are the absolute epitomy of disrespecting the viewer and looking like you just came over for some beer and a pickup basketball game with the guys. Well, let me take that back .... the real pits is when a scene starts with the guy totally nude sticking his cock in the girl's face and immediately grabbing the back of her head for a little skullfucking and gagging. Michael Stefano in jeans slouched down on a couch is a far more romantic lead-in to a sex scene. Oh well, we love the gonzo genre and maybe it comes with the territory. Obviously, based on some comments here our tastes in porn don't fit the standard gonzo viewer profile. I just don't think it would be that hard to satisfy everybody. All it would take is a minor change in directors' dress code standards for the guys (shirts with collars and buttons, pants with cuffs and belts, clean shaven faces, clean combed hair, teeth brushed, fresh breath). It really sounds so simple to us ... kinda like getting ready to go to work every day which most of us have to do???
Gee Flash .... thanks for respecting our right to have an opinion which may be contrary to AztecGold's. Sometimes it seems some members do not respect the right of other members to share their opinions without being subjected to ridicule or insult. Thanks again to the adt etiquette police. dicknjane
I'm sure the female talent would appreciate the fresh breath. I suspect the sloppy look is part of the "I'm a rebel" attitude that's inherent in being a porn performer in the USA. I suspect most guys showing up well-dressed to a wall-to-wall shoot would get razzed by the other males.
In all seriousness, though, I consider Stefano one of the better performers in terms of his interaction with the female talent. I'm sure that goes further with the ladies than a nice suit would.
Does anyone here remember that skit on Saturday Night Live where Chris Farley and Patrick Swayze are competing to become Chippendales?
That's what this topic reminds me of.
I really don't believe in that "I'm a rebel" attitude. Okay, we get it. Being in porn is 'fringe'. However, at what point do we all realize, that it's not 'rebellious' anymore when you have to deal with the day to day business of it all?
Sure, you can be scruffy, unshaven, generally look like you rolled out of bed, but come tax time, you better have your 1099's in order.
Rebellion is for kids who are trying to piss off their parents. It's not for someone who's been in the industry for close to a decade. I'm just not buying that.
To me, showing up and looking like shit means you're too lazy to respect your co-workers inspite of what you're going to do to them.
There's an old scene with Michael Stefano in the Extreme Teen series in which he's playing the part of a detective and he's dressed in a nice suit and tie. He looks really good and he plays the part very convincingly. In the scene, he actually fucks his partner while still in his business attire and it just makes the scene that much more hotter! But for the most part, I don't really care how he and other porn studs are dressed. Afterall, the clothes eventually come off anyway.
Michael Stefano could look better than Nick Manning or Evan Stone and certainly better than Barrett Blade. I just don't get why he wouldn't want to take advantage of his natural good looks. I agree he needs to lose the "rebel without a cause look" and see if he can last as long as Randy Spears or Mark Davis or any of the other guys who also have a reputation of loving women, doing hot scenes and looking pretty good at the same time.
I recently watched a scene he did with Sativa Rose (it was from the "South of the Border" series) and throughout the whole scene he never took his pants off. They just stayed bunched up at his ankles. Even though they went through a number of positions, he never took them off.
After the scene, she just gets up and walks away, and he is left there on the couch…pants around his ankles and breathless (as I think anyone would be after being with Sativa Rose).
What I'm saying is that the whole 'rebellion' thing for someone in the business for close to a decade is redundant. If this is your livelihood, then you should care about your appearance/performance. Making a 'fashion statement' is secondary to being professional.
I think one factor that draws us to certain pornstars, directors, etc. is consistency. For example, if you like the way Jules Jordan sets up his scenarios, you know what you're pretty much in for when you get one of his movies.
The one thing I'm tired of that is consistent is seeing multiple movies all shot in the same house/room.
Wow this brought up something I never realized about myself. I prefer men naked, no clothes. I love watching women in various stages of undress. I guess I'm always in a hurry to see a grown man naked.
Everybody's mind works in different ways .... for me thinking about things, imagining, anticipation is very erotic. It used to be known as the tease or foreplay. A lot of directors today have lost the art of teasing, visually tantalizing and exciting the imagination of the viewer. Before you can start imagining anything, both people are naked and his dick is crammed down her throat and her mascara is running or alternately she is spreading her pussy lips or ass cheeks as wide as possible with both hands so nothing is left to the imagination. Some directors start a scene off and call it a tease when they say to the girl "show us your tits", "show us your pussy", "bend over spread your cheeks and show us your ass". For me that's not leaving much for me to think about or imagine.