Really, it's super annoying. I don't have a problem with the fact that there persons right there who like things that I don't like at all, I simply skip what I don't like. But why I have to see my favorite genre (milfs and mature women) ruined by companies who clearly don't even like the genre they are producing and think that calling a young girl "milf" or "cougar" would make it an improvement? That's not what who's into milfs and mature women wants to see! If one likes interracial doesn't enter a site who promises that to find a white guy and a white girl because that's a "better interracial". Seriously, terms like "milfs" or "cougar" should be forbidden for women who are under 40. Edited by - maturelover on Jan 3 2018
1.There are not enough over-40 women to meet the production requirements. 2.Every porn woman has to be labeled/categorized/bracketed. There is no age bracket between "teen" and "MILF", so she becomes a MILF as soon as she can no longer be considered a teen.
My definition of a MILF is 35 or up. I'm okay with any woman between 30 and 34 being labeled as "MILF" but I don't prefer it. Any girl in her 20's should NOT be labeled as a "MILF" whatsoever. Edited by - drdd75 on 1/3/2018 8:24:38 PM
you would be surprised. There are actually a lot of hot over 40 women in the industry. Often very underused, because there are studios who don't even understand the fantasies they are producing and hire young girls to be labeled as "milfs" as it was an improvement of the genre.actually the word "milf" was popularized on the movie American pie, where young men were attracted by the mother of one of their friends. That means that if you're eighteen and your friend have the same age, his mother has usually at least 20 year (but today many woman made children when they are 30, 35). So milf means a woman who should be 40, 50 year old. And that's what milf genre is about. Mature women. Not every girl over 19. Because If there's no fetish involved about the age, and one does not want to see a "teen" or a "milf" it does not have any sense to use a term, that is used because there's a niche for people who like to see mature women.
^That's the trouble with the term MILF. An eighteen year old can have a mother who's 34; and if it's any mother, she can be pretty much 15 or over. I prefer 'mature women' althouigh that is also ambiguous.
^^I have no idea how old you are but I can assure you that the term MILF precedes American Pie but decades. Everybody as already pretty much said what I would have said so I can't add much except to say that it's porn. Things don't always make sense but the best thing you can do is look for the stuff you like and skip over the stuff you don't.
In fact I've said "popularized", but that's the meaning. Anyway I already skip obviously the stuff I don't like, but if the genre itself is ruined this way it's annoying. A lot of milf genre today is basically what once was normal straigh vanilla porn: young girls fucking young guys of a similar age (or younger of two or three years, using the "step-mom" trick, because if it's "step-" she could have any age). I don't know if you have a favorite genre, or you have a fetish, but think if it producers would start to transform it in something completely different from what you like but still calling it the same way.
Why has nobody provided an example of a performer who is labeled a MILF who shouldn't be?
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Posted - Jan 4 2018 : 5:44PM
i don't undersdtand this thread.why "young" girls can't be called milfs? goldie glock,elsa jean and so many young pornstars are mothers and hot,so they are milfs.
I don't think that the friends of those kids want to fuck those teenagers. Even because usually little children who maybe can't even walk or talk are not thinking to that already.
because milf does not revolves only to the woman, but it's fantasy where a young man wants to fuck an older woman. Those into milfs don't care if a woman has really children or not. Or am I wrong? Is there anybody here who wants milfs because he thinks about her children while watching her? I can't care less. It's about the age of the performer. That's why there are memes like this (sorry for that unnecessary "bitch"): [MOD: No images with children!] Edited by - maturelover on 1/4/2018 6:55:06 PM Edited by - Flash on 1/5/2018 6:30:35 PM
I don't care how old a woman is, she has to look like a mature woman you wouldn't be surprised has kids. The type who looks like a housewife who has been married awhile and her husband hasn't satisfied her in years. So sub-30's women who may have had kids relatively young don't count to me. I though it was crazy no matter how long she has been around to see Celeste Star in a 'Mom Knows Best' scene. Celeste hasn't aged a day in years.
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Posted - Jan 5 2018 : 6:24PM
The acronym is: Mother I'd Like to Fuck Nothing about age is talked about. Ergo: if a woman is a mother and you'd like to fuck her then that makes her a MILF. Case closed.
^ It is a fantasy, just like the rest of porn. While the "MILF" class has generally been older women, as has been noted, motherhood is not restricted to older women, so any adult female can play that role. The salient point is not the terminology, but whether or not we, the audience, can accept the fantasy.
It's just like with Interracial. Technically it means any combination of partners who are of different races, but what it really means when referred to in porn is Black Men with White Women. So While Milf technically means any attractive women who has kids, in reality, it actually means older mature women who have that stereotypical hot soccer mom look.
two questions: 1. do you like milfs? 2. if so, are you thinking of her children when you watch her? Already said why it's called "mother I'd like to fuck". You're just choosing to ignore that. Case closed.
but the point of the fantasy is: "a younger man who likes to fuck an older woman". Not to the fact that a woman is actually a mother. A 48 woman without children is a milf. A 27 year old girl with three children it's not a milf.
The point is that that M stays for "mothers" non matures , this is a tunneled vision about it , it means any kind of fantasy involving a mom you can meet at a supermarket ot at some park while jogging , someone you find attractive and would like to fuck even knowing she's already taken and even knowing that an affair with her might disrupt a family which raises to another level the "cheating housewife" schenario. Could also refer to a young woman who has been knocked up and then deserted by her boyfriend but still smitten with dicks to the point she doesn't care and continues fucking some barely known guy or even a complete stranger , which raises the "lewd girl next door" scenario That may also refer to a mom old enough to have grown up children and yet still very attractive or even so lewd she doesn't care and always on the hunt , a cougar with children you only like one of those scenarios , but it's only a part of what's implied with "milf"
but this is so generic that it does not need a word to describe it. It could be literally everything (even because "mother" does not mean "taken", there are tons of mothers without husbands or boyfriends) so what would be the need to invent a category for it? The category is there because there are people looking for a specific thing: mature women. If it was a fantasy involving women of any age or any kind tell me what's the point of inventing a niche. When I'm looking for milfs I'm looking for a very specific fantasy, and the term should help me to find what I want. I wonder why you would use the term in the first place, if you're the first to expect that you will find all kinds of women and all kinds of age. And if I wanted to find a woman into a relationship cheating on her husband or boyfriend I would search for something else, not for a word like "milf" that (in your opinion) something means that, something means other things. Edited by - maturelover on 1/6/2018 9:26:18 AM
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Posted - Jan 6 2018 : 9:58AM
Maybe porn should establish another synonyme for mature female talent. Milf means "Mother...", but if you think of a Milf, you think of a hot older woman. Nobody gives a shit if she is a mother or not. So technically Tori Black is a Milf...but is is not a Milf in the proper sense IMO.
If the term was intended to be taken literally then an 18 year old mother would be a MILF, and India Summer wouldn't. But it is not a literal term; in porn it's an older woman, actual age debatable. Case closed.
To be precise, that's the point of your fantasy. It isn't necessarily the point for others, as demonstrated by this thread. I'm not going to tell you that you can't have your interpretation of "MILF" catered to, but it is absurd to suppose that porn producers are only going to cater to you. They are going to explore the variations and the limits of every fantasy in order to maximize their profits.
it'my fantasy, but there's a reason if there are memes like the one above. And the reason is that those who like milfs (meaning mature women) are annoyed to find the term used for young girls. But let me explain it to you again: "actually the word "milf" was popularized on the movie American pie, where young men were attracted by the mother of one of their friends. That means that if you're eighteen and your friend have the same age, his mother has usually at least 20 year (but today many woman made children when they are 30, 35). So milf means a woman who should be 40, 50 year old. And that's what milf genre is about. Mature women. Not every girl over 19. Because If there's no fetish involved about the age, and one does not want to see a "teen" or a "milf" it does not have any sense to use a term, that is used because there's a niche for people who like to see mature women." and if producers want to explore variations,more power to them. But use other terms, since words and genres are there to help findind what one wants, not to add confusion and frustration. I don't know what are your preferences but I bet that when you're looking for something you want to find what you're looking for, and not something completely different.
yes. to make you happy, it seems it works! I thought you were so annoyed by the quote that I've though "hey, why not, I'll give him what he wants since it's so easy". And voilà!
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Posted - Jan 6 2018 : 10:13PM
A woman who has a child, no matter her age, can be called a MILF. Any woman over the age of 35, with a child, may also be called a Cougar. Voilà! I have solved the problem for all time. Case closed. Would a Mod please lock this thread since the matter is now resolved. Thank you.
I'm definitely not in my teens anymore, but in porn was branded a "teen", I've seen a woman in her 30s play teens as well. Veronica Vain was cast as a MILF when she was in porn and she was my age. Definitions don't really matter all that much in porn. They put in as many labels as they can to sell the product or get someone to click. I think the whole divide of teen vs MILF comes to image (usually weight, facial features, tattoos, and plastic surgery). If you are more on the curvier side you tend to be MILF, if you're plastic surgery is obvious you become a MILF, if you have a bunch of tattoos that take away from the innocence of youth you become a MILF, if you're facial features don't indicate youthfulness or childlike wonder but is instead "mature looking" you're a MILF. meh it is what is it.
the thing is that for instance "teen" is the most popular genre, and every year I see threads asking for girls born in 1998 two years ago, born in 1999 last year and in 2000 few days ago. I'm saying this because, even if some producers don't realize it, the real age of the performer is part of the fantasy. It could seems weird to some but it's important to them to see a real 18, 19 year old. Hey, I will never understand why at a lot of people have a fetish for feet but who cares. It's like those having a feet fetish would find pictures and videos of elbows, it does not have any sense. So even if you look very young, I think producers weren't doing a good thing casting you as a "teen" if you're not. Labels are there to be useful, not to be confusing. Just for curiosity (I hope you don't mind the question) what what is/was your stage name if I can ask?
In Red Dwarf XII, MILFs are robotic members of the Mechanoid Intergalactic Liberation Front; proving beyond any doubt that a MILF doesn't even have to be a woman. Now the thread can be locked.
Sorry in advance if this comes off harsh. I don't mean to come off as a jerk but this type of thing bothers me..... This yet another case of people making up definitions in their heads and wanting the rest of the world to adhere to it. The term MILF clearly spells out what it is Mother I'd Like to Fuck . But still some want to ignore that and but their own spin on the clearly defined term. Now it's "I don't care that she's an actual mother, she can't be young." or "I don't care if she has kids or not as long as she's older than the made up age I've decided on." If someone wants to watch "older" women that's fine and not a problem but why do you need the rest of the world to follow a set of rules you've made up in your head that the rest of the world never agreed to? The "M" in MILF stands for "mother". While you might not think a 22 year old mom is worth your viewing time a 21 year old porn viewing might disagree. What some people have defined in their mind as a "MILF" is actually a "mature" or "Cougar". "Mature" is self explanatory. "Cougar" is defined as an older woman who seeks out younger men. In porn for the most part MILFs are much more about body type than actual age. The more curvy women are usually cast as MILFs and age isn't that important as long as she isn't considered a "teen". The reason the whole MILF genre exploded in porn to begin with is because they started casting hotter "younger" (30s to 40s) as "older" women where as before with the "mature" genre, age (40 plus) was more important than looks. Most of the top MILFs back then in porn mostly had one thing in common...they were mostly all "curvier" women with fuller figures. And as time went on the body type became more important than age and MILFs began to get younger. Most fans didn't mind. It's all fantasy. The women are playing roles. They didn't have to be actual mothers and they didn't have to be the age some people decided they had to be. For me personally, I don't care if the woman playing a MILF is a mom or not. In fact I'd rather not know. Fantasy-wise, if I'm going to apply the "MILF" idea...in my mind a woman with a teen-aged kid can be sexy just as a younger woman with a 1 year old can be also. In a movie or real life setting the men and the boys in a neighborhood could have the hots for the neighborhood mom regardless of her age. She'd be considered a MILF. I totally get a person wanting to see specific things in their porn. But I'll never understand why people want all porn to bend to their expectations. With all the porn out there is it so bad that a person might have to skip a scene or two and not everything is what they want?
More than harsh you seems you haven't read the discussion, because I've already replied to this. I could make cut and paste but I'll answer again: the fact that "MILF stands for Mother I'd Like to Fuck" does not mean that there should be a real mother. Because with this logic the genre Interracial would mean that there are different races. Milf and Interracial are just labels used to adress a particular fetish, not definitions on a encyclopedia, so to consider the terms strictly is absurd in both cases: there are no races (there are no racial differences between white and black men), and milf is not a terms that implies a real mother. As I've said two times before in this discussion, the label Milf was made popular on the movie "American pie", where a group of young guys wanted to have sex with the mother of one of them. So it's about young guys and mature women (because the mother of a guy who's eighteen, nineteen year old can't obviously be in her 20s... if a woman is extremely young when she has a child she could be in her mid thirties when the guy is a teenager, but she's usually older or even much older than that). Cougar is about the same thing, with the only difference being that in this case it's the woman looking for a young man, that implies a more aggressive female and a more passive young man. Curvy... well that's not written anywhere. There are tons of skinny milfs. For curvy women, there are other labels, like "curvy", bbw and stuff like that. Separate things. Then sure, there are curvy milfs obviously, but that doesn't mean that milfs implies a type of body, because there are literally tons of lean, skinny or athletic milfs that I could list.
I definitely don't pretend porn should be made to accomodate just my tastes. And I would not even care if someone would decide that the word "milf" means "curvy" and every company would use it for that. If there's another definition for mature women with young guys? I would not care at all, I would be super ok with that. The problem is the confusion. I look for mature women, and I see women in their 20s defined as milfs, cougar or matures. That's what annoys me. The other day Naughty america released a scene with a guy who was like 24 with a girl who is younger than him, and the scene was released in the site "seduced by a cougar". And she isn't curvy by the way. That's what I don't like. If you pay for a site that promises a certain thing that should be very specific and sometimes it's there sometimes not I wonder what would you thing. "Hey, I like anal, let's try this site that promises anal in every scene". And then they produce ten scenes and just one includes anal, and the other stuff is generic vanilla porn. I don't think you would like that.
for YOUR fantasy you don't need a "mother", mature would suffice But MILF means MOTHER a cheating woman is not necessarily a mother , a mother cheating implies much more a woman so smitten with sex to be willing to risk everything including her children custody for a dick , it's not the same as a "cheating woman" plus I described but a couple of possible fantasies related to a "mom" there are more , including the resemplance of one of those "moms" to an actual mom in someone's neighborhood he likes to fuck, the "mom " in the definition changes it all I put another question why they differitiate between "doctor" "nurse" and even "nun" in a hospital/ER scenario? Because the definition of the job changes the fantasy through the character portrayed by the performers. same goes with a "mom" to the point that in this very board someone just recently asked about what actresses are actual moms or were moms while performing , this goes beyond the fantasy , they're real moms he didn't limit his request to mature moms Tori Black has been mentioned there so he's not looking for "mature" women just moms I see his reasons he wants to extend the number of scenes with moms available to him by choosing actual moms so that whatever scene they do they'll be moms still . pretty much the same as you, you want to extend the scenes available by narrowing the definition of MILF so that it would match your fantasy and you will have at least three different lines of productions to choose from Mature, Cougar and Milfs and you're just pissed that the latter doesn't always do that Edited by - LCF on 1/7/2018 12:05:25 PM