So my friends and I read the AVN winners and see Stoya beat front runner Tori Black for Best new startlet. So for him and others here I ask you all how? Tell of the Tape Age: Tori 21 Stoya 22
Height Stoya 5'7 / Tori 5'9 Claim to fame: Stoya- Alt Porn Tori Teen/Fashion Model Porn Magazines on stands Stoya: 6 Tori : 15 including Penthouse Videos released: Stoya:14 Tori:91 Website clips: Tori 63 Stoya 11 Web links: Freeones for example Tori 143 http://www.freeones.com/html/t_links/Tori_Black/ Stoya 27 http://www.freeones.com/html/s_links/Stoya/ AVN was wrong and Karl I've proved my point you now own me 5 dollars! lol
Tori is great, but Stoya has a star quality about her that porn actresses very rarely have (Sasha Grey being another exception). She was one of the most worthy winners at the whole show.
There's always the poles section. I did Missy Stone Vs Tori Black not long ago, Tori won. I didn't want to put her up against Stoya 'cause I thought it would be a no contest, to Stoya. I think Tori's great and would have been a worthy winner, as would Missy or Lexi. However, Stoya is a very special girl, just look at that fleshbot knockout contest, she beat Jenna Haze and Sasha Grey and is probably the most popular starlet in porn and thats the fans point of view!
Look, I like Tori a lot too, but let's be nice. Stoya is a beautiful woman and from the few scenes I've seen, does her job well. Who cares who you thought should have won, we should just congratulate Stoya on her honor. That would be the gracious thing to do and maybe if you check out her stuff, you'll become a fan too.
Stoya is a totally deserving winner, she did some fantastic scenes for Digital in the last year plus, sorry about Tori not winning for her fans but she wasn't robbed of anything. Jeez it's a fucking honor to be nominated do you have any idea how many girls come into the biz each year. Tori still has a few chances to win awards for her work last year as this new one unfolds so don't lost hope but to try and downgrade Stoya's win is bullshit, it's not like she didn't shoot a lot of content for a contract girl, did anal, took great popshots and looked fantastic having sex. Now I can say most of that about Tori too save for the anal part, let's just hope she too has a long career in the biz as I think Stoya will for the next year or so hopefully.
I just have to go for Tori as she is on the box cover and star of the Harmony Jan 09 release Fuck Club. I had the chance to have a chat with her during AVN and what a great person to talk to. Just fantastic.
Guys.. I'm not going to get into a discussion here or reply to anything because I feel like this kind of thread has too much potential to get a little ugly, but no one knows why AVN does what they do, and when the nominations came out it was a fucking honor to even be nominated WITH Tori and the other girls. I've met Tori on set, and she really does look amazing fresh out of bed while she's waiting to get in makeup. She also looks gorgeous after a scene with smeary makeup and cum on her face. Frankly, I'd rather just have her sit on my face and try to express with my tongue how hot she is.
That's a really nice thing to say Stoya. Really gracious. Awards come and go, but you and Tori will still be gorgeous. A zillion debating fans can't be wrong. Stay gold.
thank you! i'm on the same page, i'm proud to have been nominated at all, let alone have so many people pulling for me. stoya is a great performer and there's room for the both of us so this is no cause for argument. thanks for the support but you have to realize it's anyones guess who wins. i'm ok, happy for stoya and just as enthusiastic as i was before. and sexy lady - i'll meet you in the boudoir. ;) xoxo miss b.
I say you are BOTH winners in my book. Thumbs up to both! And love that pic Tori - maybe Miss Stoya will want to post on of her own favorites of herself. hint hint Edited by - heynow on 1/14/2009 1:34:28 AM
As I stated in another thread, in my opinion you should have won Tori. I've been in porn a loooooong time now and a girl like you comes along about once a decade. Then again, it's not like you're hurting for work or anything so who cares that you got shafted. Go forward and make lots of dough.
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Posted - Jan 13 2009 : 10:25PM
Mike, is this your way of getting Tori to finally do ANAL for you? I think both of these girls are truly amazing, and very little between them. Saying Stoya didn't deserve to win, would be very harsh and wrong, because she did deserve to win. She is the best Digital Playground girl to me, at the moment. Very unique and beautiful girl, who commands attention. Tori to, has similar characteristics and always looks as fresh as Jenna Haze. Anal is the only thing that scores points toward Stoya between them, and ultimately, might've made the difference. Like someone else said, there are lots of Awards to come which Tori can win in the future. As long as she stays as enthusiastic and energetic about her work, and add the big A in her resumé of course. I have the winning formula which should make everyone happy. How about a g/g/b anal involving Tori, Stoya and a guy or their choice...directed by Mike Quasar? Wouldn't that make life so beautiful and please everyone? On a personal note, I just hope both of these amazing girls stay in porn for a long time and stay natural! God took extra time to create both of them, and it shows...let's just hope they never think of messing with perfection. Edited by - ExtremeGonzoFan on 1/13/2009 10:30:31 PM
Tori... should have been all yours!You kill it. Stoya? dont really think so... no offense, you haven't done the work. AVN award? Really mean anything anyway. As long as Evan Stone keeps winning award, you know it's all bullshit. X, J
These debates always amuse me. Why do some people always have to believe that somebody got "shafted" in an awards race? Take the 1995 Academy Awards. I loved Forrest Gump. I loved Pulp Fiction even more. Did I feel that Pulp was robbed of the Best Picture Oscar? Hell no. All it meant was that more people voted for Gump than they did for Pulp. That's all. Now, I'm not trying to suggest that the Oscars have a whole lot in common with the AVN's. But Stoya won, and that's that. If you're gonna bitch about Tori losing, why not express the same outrage for the rest of the Best New Starlet nominees? Could it simply be that you just wanted one girl to win, and any other result must be seen as a mistake and injustice?
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Posted - Jan 14 2009 : 7:23AM
bauer024 you need to calm down. It's just a fucking porno Award. Life doesn't end for Tori or Stoya so go get some fresh air, and relax before you have a heart attack.
This topic wasn't made to be mean or hurt the girls feeling. I'm sure many of you like both girls and I know I do. But when it come to BEST New Startlet I dont know what they consider to give the girl the award. I like Stoya's films and her look I just don't thinks she's as good as Tori. I've never seen Stoya perform as good as Tori,ex... do a a blow bang or take complete control over a scene or do IR if your into that. (which will NEVER happen with Stoya as long as she's with DP). Stoya beats Tori in doing anal but hopefully that's just a matter or time. :-) That's the point I was making. Many girls I guess are in this business and stay in it for the love of the work, the money and the support of the fans(IE AWARDS) Look at how many great girls left the business the following year after they lost out on best new starlet. I would hate to see a girl like Tori quit because she dosen't see how much we think she's special.
^ To anyone who'd retire for a reason as lame as that, I say, "Good riddance!" If a girl quits because she didn't win an award after just over a year in the biz, then she got into porn for all the wrong reasons.
Really do the awards mean THAT much in the grand scheme of things? Gianna's been in the industry for years and IMO the best performer on the planet, yet i don't think she's sniffed a single AVN award her entire career. I put the AVN's on par with the Oscars and Grammy's in that its good to win one and show appreciation for your work, but isn't the end all be all of everything in the respected field.
bauer: Um, dude, I wasn't referring to you. Many people have bitched in this thread about Tori getting robbed. When I wanna bash you specifically, I'll be sure to include some anti-Canada insults.
funny thing Anime it's not that they are in for the wrong reasons but these girls put themselves out there then to be disrespected. not saying names but i was told by a huge name she would consider retiring because of the mess that is the awards show. it had nothing to do with tori or Stoya she was just mad about the show and how it is kinda brought off as a joke year after year. when the talent take it serious that's all. the girl i am talking about has been in the industry for more than one year i can say that much. Dan
those Anti-Canada insults would not have anything to do with Lauren Phoenix. god i loved her ass and she was as near perfection as i have seen. loved her lol lmao lol. i have no beef with you Anime were cool man. time for me to move past this drama as gonzo said don't need a heart attack i am going to Erotica LA cant miss that lol lol.
Cool. Bygones. After all, this is "Stoya vs Tori". Not "bauer024 vs Anime Nut".
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Posted - Jan 15 2009 : 12:19PM
You're making a fucking ass of yourself running around the whole board crying Tori got robbed, completely undermining Stoya and her work...and then you say it was a very tough call because both girls are great. Make some sense dude, and get that no one has said Tori is a bad performer. I never said Tori not doing anal was the ONLY reason why she didn't win, I said it was one of the main reasons. Think about it, do some research and you'll know yourself most of these main individual Awards at AVN are given to girls who do anal. You or someone else had mentioned the example of Gianna. Now stop crying all over the place for Tori, because she doesn't seem bothered by it. and think of giving Stoya a bit of credit, which she deserves. This topic is retarded, and bound to start silly arguments like we're having now because of you. Let's drop it now, before some of us make the either girl feel like shit by repeatedly making silly statements which are merely opinions.
i think missy should have got it! she worked her ass(hole) off like none other this year! tori is great too but im partial to missy she's my girl "im the girl your mother warned you about"
I think that both women had outstanding years and were deserving of the win. Stoya won and people who favor her should be happy. Had Tori won, her fans would have been happy and it also would have been a good choice. The fan poll on my site had them separated by a single vote. That shows that both women have great fans and are deserving of the praise they get. Frankly I was hoping for a tie so I could suggest a blowjob contest to determine the winner. Rog Reviews
The fan poll on my site had them separated by a single vote. That shows that both women have great fans and are deserving of the praise they get. ____________________________________________________________ She lost by one vote? wow guess there's always the Xbiz awards. Where can I vote? ( when I'm done watching her video's)
i think missy should have got it! she worked her ass(hole) off like none other this year! tori is great too but im partial to missy she's my girl ______________________________________ if a tree falls in the forest dose it make a sound?? if an average looking girl works her ass(hole) off dose anyone truly care? lol
you really think she is average? you must be blind she is fucking gorgeous!!!!! her eyes and lips are to die for... and she is so damn petite and rocks her socks off in scenes.... "im the girl your mother warned you about"
I'm with you on Missy, she is totally gorgeous. I didn't think she'd win though, she doesn't seem to be in any "high end" porn, pirates helped Stoya win, Missy just makes filth, for us boys to get off to, I love Missy and her work .
Well I think we may have figured out how Stoya won all those awards.... It's her do-anything attitude and willingness to go the extra mile. So Tori.....
lol i'm actually 5'10, i grew since i got into porn, lol. guess thats what happens when you start at 18/19! i'm 5'10 130 lbs size 4/27 and an au natural 34 B. size 7 1/2 - 8 feet (just in case you want to send me some cute new shoes... lol im jp) i guess i am a giant. xoxo miss b.
5'10 is pretty tall, then if you add heels to that bam over 6 feet. I don't think I've been 130 pounds since middle school, lol. So Tori....where should we send stuff to, in case I see some shoes for you.
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Posted - Jan 28 2009 : 9:54AM
surprised fans get so worked up over which girl wins, Both girls are stunning and i sure don't need avn to tell me that. I kinda thought it was just people in the industry who cared about industry awards? Getting in a tizzy over this seems about as important as getting worked up over which celebrity was voted the worlds hottest by maxim.
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Posted - Mar 22 2009 : 4:23AM
Question never starts. You can compare the gorgeous Stoya not only with any girl on the planet, but with any material thing in the whole universe. Stoya should always wins. She is sooo beautiful, so sexy, so attractive! So not only she's perfect like a girl, like a woman, but she's perfect, harmony in built, like a thing. IS PERFECT, FLAWLESS, IS ART... I mean like Partenon in Athens... understand? And it is really a sin she's in porn, because she could easily be a world star like a normal actress... her beauty is too much... no-one couldn't notice that. She could easily put in shadow Charlize Theron, or Nicole Kidman, or Elisha Cuthbert, or Jessica Biel. BECAUSE STOYA IS THE BRIGHTEST STAR OF THE UNIVERSE.
Stoya does have that wonderful blushing but pearlescent skin that so few pale girls have. Only Sasha Grey and Charlotte Stokley come to mind as other examples, and Stoya exceeds them both by a wide margin. She needs to do a scene with Peter North so he can him cum all over her, though. Then fuck Lexington Steele, and a dark rod will be visible through her abdomen when he enters her!
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Posted - Jan 12 2009 : 10:27PM
Thumbs up to both! 
I think both of these girls are truly amazing, and very little between them. Saying Stoya didn't deserve to win, would be very harsh and wrong, because she did deserve to win. She is the best Digital Playground girl to me, at the moment. Very unique and beautiful girl, who commands attention. Tori to, has similar characteristics and always looks as fresh as Jenna Haze. Anal is the only thing that scores points toward Stoya between them, and ultimately, might've made the difference.
