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I would love to start shooting more interracial scenes. I need some advice on "strong" black male talent. Please explain your reasoning behind your selections. (I sure know Ramsey can help out here ;)
More interracial scenes? That's like music to my ears :D
Here's my list of best and worst male black performers:
Worst: Lex Steele, Sean Michaels, Mr.Marcus, Julian St.Jox, Jake Steed and Brian Pumper.
I don't like these guys because I've seen them in too many movies already and/or because they have a way too big ego. I try to avoid every movie they're in (especially Mr.Marcus).
Best: Justin Slayer, Boz, J.Monty, Mandingo, Jack Napier, Darren James, Wesley Pipes, Cuntree Pipes, Mark Anthony, Sledge Hammer, Biggz, Byron Long, Franco Roccaforte, Kid Jamaica, Johnny Depth, Silvio and of course Lil'Pimp Hand but he's gone.
I like these guys because they're great performers who always do a great job without acting like some big star.
I can only hope more new black performers will start doing movies, Climax 9 Productions is already doing a great at that using mostly unknown black performers for their Black Attack GangBang serie.
Sean Michaels: He's been around forever, but he still can put out great scenes. Women seem to like him and he remains hard with a huge cock. His only drawback really is weak popshots.
Justin Slayer: Much younger, although not as endowed as Sean. Justin has fucked the girl good every time I've seen him. Justin is often vocal in his scenes which can enhance the action for some or possibly detract from the sex for others. It depends. He has his own company and may be tough to hire.
Darren James: Very consistent. His problem is that he doesn't have a big dick, so there goes the big dick in white chick fantasy. However, he's easier for girls to take anally, which is a big plus if you want to shoot anal scenes.
Mandingo: He's good, except that his videos often have subpar direction. If you could help him out in this aspect, then you have a winner.
Kohl Mynah: I have no idea why this guy does not get more work. On camera, he doesn't really have a flaw. He's big, in shape, and I've seen him deliver big loads to girls. You may wanna look for him also because he is not in as many videos as these other guys.
Franco Roccaforte: Funny guy. Brings good comedic aspect and probably can make most women feel comfortable. That is huge. He's a very solid performer. I also appreciate that he does not mind sucking on a girls toes (Sean Michaels and Justin Slayer have done this in the past as well). I'm not sure if Franco is available for work in the United States.
Mark Anthony: Seems like a nice guy. Women seem to be attracted to him. His cumshots are very weak, unfortunately.
Sledgehammer: He can be good. The minus with him is he isn't in great shape. He's stocky. Also, he is a light skinned black male and thus does not provide the type of color contrast that many IR fans enjoy.
Boz: Skinny guy with a big dick. I haven't seen him get a lot of work, except for being involved in multiple guy scenes with either Justin Slayer or J. Monty. He doesn't provide a great contrast either, but much more of a contrast than Sledgehammer can.
Mason, if I personally had to rank these guys in regards to their value for IR scenes you are interested in shooting it would be:
1. Justin Slayer 2. Sean Michaels 3. Franco Roccaforte 4. Kohl Mynah 5. Mandingo 6. Mark Anthony 7. Darren James 8. Boz 9. Sledgehammer
They all are good, really. Boz & Sledgehammer are at the bottom because neither really provides that sexy contrast of dark black to go with ivory white
-Mandingo -Lexington Steele -Mr. Marcus -Sledgehammer -Brian Pumper -Mr. Bigg (check out his Biggz And The Beauties series released by Digital Sin, really good stuff. Girls go crazy over this guys huge cock). Please avoid guys without big dicks. The last thing I want to see in a movie is a brother with a small cock. I would avoid guys like Darren James, Joachim Kessef etc.
What of RLD's vaulted Max Blacc and Tony T? They don't float your boat, Ramsey?
I agree Slayer is a fine performer, and Mason would be foolish not to use him. Similarly Mandingo is a beast, a huge cock, and his best work is yet to come I think.
I'm not keen on Napier, despite his pound-for-pound superiority. He is fun, but arouses nothing in me as a performer, and for some reason I always end up seeing his asshole in various forms in scenes, and his is not a photogenic asshole.
Byron long is underrated, but if we're going to dig at Pumper for being in a lot of films, so has Long. In fact, I like Pumper. He's often funny, a handsome man and a good performer, although he has had some dubious moments, as in XXX Road Trip 4, which count against him.
Sledgehammer and J.Monty it's certainly worth seeing more of, and I think Mason should target these guys along with Slayer and Mandingo. All are solid looking guys who turn in strong performances in what i've seen.
Kid Jamaica I love, he has the cutest nutsack in the business, and his star is only starting to shine, but he's in Europe, if I'm not mistaken. Similarly, Roccoforte is a star, a charismatic sexual beast who actually provides frissons in his performances, for me and the talent he's fucking. These two are really the two best black male performers in my opinion, because they bring a little sweetness and a lot of sexiness to their work. They're not powerfuckers so much as charismatic and balanced porn stars.
However Mason, you could do worse than to find someone new, someone who is in sync with what you try to bring to porn.
The knock on Mark Anthony has always been the shape of his dick. That's never bugged me, and he does do sleaze very well, but when it comes to the fucking he tends to blend into the crowd a little too much for my liking.
Wesley Pipes irritates me with that stupid "gansta/ghetto" speak, and those two gun tats, but if he would keep his damn mouth shut, he could be good. But anytime I see his name on a boxcover, I know I'd better have the mute button handy.
Sledgehammer, is certainly strong, as well as a strong performer, check out Service Animals 10 if you'd like proof, and I think he's been in other volumes of this series as well.
I will agree with Ramsey on Julian St. Jox being one of the worst performers, just something about him, so I try and avoid his scenes, and have been lucky so far.
Brian Pumper, is a big small guy, relatively short, heck, when I met him, I was expecting him to be bigger, but he does have a tendency to be egotistical, which is my only complaint, never saw a bad scene of his.
Mason, one performer that I would love to see in front of your camera is Brett Rockman. With the right director and screen partner Mr. Marcus can be incredibly hardcore and rough while still maintaining his masculine sexiness. Mr. Bigg Z, the New Sensations contract guy, exudes the "thug" appeal fantasy and has a strong performance style. Domineko can be pretty strong too. One of the hottest men is the Brazilian performer Juliano Ferraz. His sex scenes are wild, with an almost grudge aspect to them. Darren James is really fun to watch. He seems to like to strong sex as does Mandingo. One of my fantasies is to see Lexington Steele in a rough sex scene. Tony T is one of the hardest performers around and cute. He does a lot of work for Red Light District and on Khan Tusion's web site. Happy filming.
I don't consider Tony T black, he looks more Latino or something and I don't like the guy, I saw many scenes with him on Meatholes.com and he tries to hard to be like Max Hardcore but he fails everytime.
I only saw one Max Blacc scene (with Petal Benson) and he could work out just fine because it seems he got all it takes!
I wish F.M. Bradley would make a comeback, I always kind of liked that guy.
As others have pointed out, I'm very impressed with Mr. Biggz and I think he could give some serious competition to other black swordsmen of his caliber. I just got Biggz & Beauties 5 and I was really blown away by his blistering anal scene with my fave dream girl Monica Sweetheart!
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Posted - Feb 7 2004 : 7:35PM
Being that it's Mason asking for "strong" black talent, I don't think that a lot of the suggested guys are a fit. Can you really imagine Jack Napier trying to carry off a Mason scene. Or Mandingo either, for that matter. Wesley Pipes has already worked for her, so she already knows he can talk his way through a scene. J Monty might be a good fit. Mr, Marcus was in the infamous Rough Sex. Mr. Bigg might have that capability, but from what I've seen of him, he doesn't project much personality at all. Slayer is a possibility, but I think he pictures himself as more of a lover. Guys like Byron Long, Mark Anthony and Darren James are sweethearts. It would be a big stretch for any of them. Lex can be very aggressive and might be up to this. Just my 2 cents.
I agree with oprlvr, Julian Ferraz is a fuckin MONSTER, this guy is just like Nacho, he leaves girls a total mess and they dig him for it. Only thing is he looks more latin than black. He's got that typical Brazilian look to him.
I would love to start shooting more interracial scenes. I need some advice on "strong" black male talent. Please explain your reasoning behind your selections.
1. Justin Slayer---he has the best chance of all male talent black or white, to be the next big superstar male talent. Like Rocco, Sean Michael and Lexington Steele did in their day. I think he needs some seasoning working with a great production team director, camera man, and editor. Yes I am still referring to infront of the camera.
Mandingo----have potential ---however he needs assertive female to literally demands that he fuck her hard and deep....ie Judy Star in Mandingo volume something ??, or Mandy Bright in Sex Shooter II
Boz---J.Monty---their best stuff seems to be when they work together or in the trio including Slayer. give these guys---Great director, camera and editor...then a solid scene is in the bag.
Wesley Pipes,----Yes Pipes doesn't project a very negative image of black men to white america....However more times than not the females he works with respond to him...especially the new girls who need more verbal direction--personally I would rather hear him and the director speaking in a scene.
Biggz----See Mandingo selection...assertive female...a greater chance of a boiling scene.
Lastly, I tend to agree with picman's reply to this post. However given the right director and prep work before the scene...i.e. chemistry and comfortably between the "strong" black male talent and the "I like my sex aggressive" white female. I am willing to bet that mason could get the best of that "strong" black male talent.
Yeah, the brother's like the Philadelphia Eagles' receiving corp. He needs to have General Tommy Franks sit down with him and put some fire back into him. We all know Mandingo has balls, but the brother needs to get nasty!
For assertive female, get Ann Coulter to spend a day with him.
Pumper's funny - see that extra on CUM DRIPPERS 2 where he's got the BRIAN PUMPER shirt and cap on? He can't take himself seriously. He's just a more subtle ham than Wesley, but he brings the kielbasa, you know what I mean? Plus, he does a great sleaze thang, although nobody does that better than Roccoforte, but then he can't talk like Pumper can.
Ah yes, I love interacial porn, nothing like seeing a black dude with a huge dick banging the shit out of a cute little white girls ass :)
Anyways I would like to see you guys go out there and get some new guy. Why dont you find some big ass basketball player or something, some guy like 6-6, super fit and packing one huge dick. There must be some guy out there that is absolutely massive, like bigger than Mandingo, I would love to see some anal with a guy around 13 inches or something,that would be awesome! Also, I would like to see the exact opposite as well, find a little ass black dude, could be fat or whatever, but happens to have a huge dick, that would be awesome seeing the girls expression when he pulls it out. Another thing, I would love to see a series focusing on hung black guys and white girls with big asses, similar to the west coast series Phat ass white girls. I know Ramsey and me would love to see this lol
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Posted - Feb 8 2004 : 3:28AM
I think there are so many talented black performers right now but we should consider what would work with mason's style. I think monty and justin would be great choices, you should see the new slayer unleashed, rough fetishy scenes! (I wore vinyl chaps and a collar in my scene and justin destroyed my ass)I love sledge and I think he is one strong performer with a great body and a thick cock, but he is a lover not a fucker I would recomend him for any other project!
Tony is not black
wesley can give a rough scene I heard, but I held a girl as she cried after her scene cause she said he has said terrible things in her ear during the scene, terrible as in calling her a bad performer and such, I am not sure if it was wesley pipes or some other newcomer.
Mason's scenes are very very intense, I love jack but his style is a shy giggly kinda feel, masons movies are more an experience in levels of submission. I can't see jack slapping hundreds on a whores ass or dunking a chicks head in the toilet. I think it's good that there are diffrent types of performers, that gives us the variety we need!
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Posted - Feb 8 2004 : 12:38PM
Ramsey, we are talking about Mason's films. Unless she is changing her direction, I think you should take the word strong seriously. This is Brandon Iron, Rocco, Nacho territory. Have you ever seen Jack or Mandingo ride a girl like that? The only time their scenes become intense is when the woman demands and goes for it. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe they can unleash the abusive animals within under Mason's direction. I would fear for the safety of the poor woman they work with if that happened.
Mason or not, I'm sure guys like Mandingo and Jack Napier can fuck on direction I mean it's not like they have to split the atom but the question is; can a girl handle a rough Mandingo and Jack Napier in her ass without being ripped apart?
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Posted - Feb 8 2004 : 3:12PM
Have you ever viewed a Mason title? This isn't about fucking on direction. I personally don't even like her brand of porn and am not likely to even rent this video no matter who is in it (well maybe if she somehow gets Lex to assfuck Taylor Rain). I'm being as objective as I can be on this. Not all performers are up to this on both sides of the ball. I'm sure Brandon Iron has similar problems casting his films. When he tells you things didn't click, it doesn't mean that people weren't willing. They're just not able. Rough sex is more than physical. There is a very strong psychological component to the whole dom/sub dynamic. Mandingo and Jack et al are reticent to even bury their whole dicks in their partners. How are they going to negotiate forced throatfucking and gagging along with hard relentless pussy and assfucking? I maintain that this is too out of character for some of your favorites. I don't see this as a negative for them, either. The male performers that I prefer are the ones that care for and visibly enjoy their partners. Basically, I want to see a woman cum, not cry.
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Posted - Feb 8 2004 : 3:56PM
I only saw Internally Yours 3 and I was not really impressed. Only the Judy Starr scene was pretty good. [/quote] And that wasn't even completely hers. She shared the direction with William H. Nutsack.
Lexington Steele is good-looking and I know some women who like him. He has a nice ass too, but he doesn't really do it for me as a complete package. The fact that he has pretty much admitted that he doesn't like to eat pussy much is also a turn off.
Mr. Marcus is good looking and I can tell that some of his partners like having sex with him because they seem genuinely turned on and well lubricated from the scenes I have seen. He is o.k. at eating pussy too so he is not too bad overall.
I would give the top spot here to Franco Roccoforte. This guy seems to be the best overall at sex and is perhaps not as good looking as the other two here, but despite being big and strong, he has a respectful and sensitive side at times which can be a turn on.
I would like to see more scenes featuring African Americans with nice sized, but not overly large penises. As an African American, I get tried of seeing the Monster Cocks in every IR themed release.
My favorite performers are Mr.Marcus and Brian Pumper at the moment
Mason, see if you can convince Wendel Sailor if he'll do a scene for you.
I know he comes off as a softie, but put a girl in front of him and dress her in England colours and I'm sure he'll fuck her like a demon. I imagine he's hung, and he's black enough for you.
RoccoForte is the man! I don't know, though, about a goodly number of the black guys. Not playa-hating by any means here, but it often seems like the huge cocks take the place of really energetic performances. Like, I was just watching Sledge Hammer in a Joey Silvera movie, and I really like the guy --- he seems like someone the girls like --- but he's so mellow. Guys like Lex and Sean Michaels and Pumper clearly earned their dough, and I doubt they have any true competition on these shores, but I'd much rather see some new and different talents. Silvera certainly seems able to recruit these fellas, because his movies feature so much interracial, and he pulls it off to a "tee." So, Mason, I would advise you to check out the last 5 or 6 Silvera "hetero" titles, and see who you like!
I love his hot round ass globes, you just want to spread those muscular cheeks & chow down! nasty talker, gorgeous face, a body you want to grab hold of, & thick rich spurts of protein!
Kid Jamaica! This guy is impressive and he don't talk a whole bunch of crap when he's nailing some white pussy or ass. Don't believe me! Check how he made Mandy Bright screamed "enough" in Hardball 20 (I think). It was great to see such a hot porn lady like Mandy asking for a break cause she was about to explode from a really good fucking.
Apart from Lex who's pretty good and the ladies all seems to wants to impale themself on his cock, the rest are pretty much stereotyped except for maybe Brian Pumper.
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Posted - Feb 15 2004 : 5:41PM
Not a fan of that guy. I think he makes black men look bad. It's janky stuff like that, that lets me know why some females refuse IR.
But why judge Wesley by the color of his skin? I mean some girls say they have been treated very badly by Max Hardcore yet you don't see them refusing to work with all white guys. Wesley is just another performer, he doesn't represent ALL black performers.
I would also like to know who is the best performers I am gettin ready for my interracial debut and hope to be doing alotof it very soon as I always have a craving for a guy with a big dick that will cum all over my face I would like to work with mandingo one day hehe
XoXo Trinity James
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Posted - Feb 15 2004 : 7:28PM
All people represent somebody, some group, or some people. When that kid went to singapore 10 years back and spraypinted cars, he made the US look bad. Had he been black, he would have made the US look bad especially black people. People may continue to work with Max, but in general people know what he is about. When black people hold such a small market share in porn antics like Wesley's reflect poorly on IR porn.
I live miles from the microsoft campus, and housing prices are crazy. Million dollar homes that are worth about a third thier price on a national scale. When I meet people that live say 2-3 counties away (60+ Miles) they imediately think I'm a snob. It's unfortunate that some people in my zipcode act a certain way, but I'm guilty by proxy.
Wesley is a second stringer at best, but he's getting more attention than better lookin, better behaved, and from his on screen persona, better educated black performers. I don't want Wesley to represent me, the same way I am going to assume you don't want Max to represent you.
Then again I would say that there are 5 times as many A level white stars than blacks, so let's say there were 5 other guys walking around action like Max, or Wesley...? Get my point?
You know I had a film on yesterday with Lex in it and my gf commented on how large he was. Now, I could use the excuse, 'well he would be, he's black' but I suppose that line of excuse isn't open to you!!
SNP. BTW slightly off-topic although Mason did stress 'strong' black males: Brain Pumpers pectorals are almost unbelievable his nipples virtually point straight down, most professional bodybuilders don't have tits like him. Now, black, white, rich or poor I find it hard to envisage someone getting pecs quite that full without more than a little chemical assistance and whilst that kind of stuff is supposed to damage your performance BP never seems to be lacking for wood when the occasion demands. My point? I don't know really, just thought I'd mention it.
the new kid to look out for is 'Tee Reel'. not the biggest guy as far as physique, but always stepped up delivered a solid scene for me when I was still over at gangbangsquad.com. also, it's good to see people have mentioned 'Sledgehammer' too, he also can bring it. his burly size might sometimes keep him from being cast since the girls get lost underneath him. for whgat it's worth,... Von S
Sorry I got to this discussion a little late. I am a long time porn afficiando who primarily digs interracial and big-butt women themed stuff.
I guess that makes me and Ramsey twin sons of different mothers. Smile.
Anyway, I guess in my opinion the most verstatile black male performer over the years has probably been Byron Long. He is equally at home doing the "thug" type brother, (without going into Wesley Pipe's annoyance zone), or the silly, just kinda happy to be here, Jack Napier style. About the only thing that would be a stretch for him would be the dapper, elegeant brother, ala Sean Michaels, Lexington steele or Brian Pumper.
And sometimes Long has trouble keeping wood.
But he has been an outstanding performer over the years and has been in all kinds of theatrical situations. He might work for what Mason wants.
If you gotta have a younger guy, I would probably go with Justin Slayer. He seems to me to be the heir apparent to Sean Michaels.
Mr. Marcus had a good career, but he's just mailing it in now. And as big a star as Steele is, I just have never been able to get into him. Franco is a good all around performer, however he's too identified with his goofy kinda comedic T.T. Boy act. Mandingo? Please. He just seems to be a massive tool with a body attached for life support. The next time he actually acts, or even looks interested, let me know.
I like all the other brothers out there working, but most are just supporting guys and not really star quality types. Like Darren James. I like him, he's a hard working, good looking actor, but he just doesn't seem cut out for star status.
Anybody who casts Julian St. Jox again, should be barred from the industry. There are too many young and hungry guys out there with talent and energy, that are willing to work for Happy Meals, for that guy to get ANY more screen time. St Jox actually achieved what I thought was impossible. He made a one on one scene with Katja Kassin, uninteresting. I'd pay money to watch Katja just stand there, and this guy actually messed it up. Brutal, just brutal.
Johnny Keys! Now thats a name I haven't heard in a while. I remember many of his scenes when I first got into porn in the early 80's. He is definitely missed, may he rest in peace. Speaking of the past, I also fondly remember Ray Victory and F.M. Bradley when they were tearing up some fine white babes with the best of them!
I still have several 8mm loops with Johnny Keys doing cute white girls with full bushes. Most of them are from '77-79. Anyone know when and why he left the biz?