spesedy Member
Germany 238 Posts 8/00
| Posted - Dec 2 2000 : 4:35AMHi ADT-people, After having ordered quite a bunch of DVDs, but not being a coinesseur of the porn-industry, I started wondering why I see the same video on different stores categorized in different studios so often. One example : One store carries some titles from a studio called EDEN, but the same DVDs can be found in another store from FUTURE ENT. There are lots and lots of other examples, so I think Empire and Leisure time have some kind of connection, and some vids that are available from JM Productions, like American Bukkake I think, that are available in one store, seem to be from Legend when looking in another store. I've even come across lots more of these examples, and I really wonder why this is and what it means :) I'm sure you people out there know the answer, so please enlighten me ;) [Link] |
Bill  All-Star Member
5334 Posts 6/00
| Posted - Dec 2 2000 : 7:16AM
In the case of Leisure Time/Empire - Yes they are the same company. Titles released under Leisure Time tend to be compilation titles, and Empire titles tend to be new footage (however this is not an absolute rule). Leisure Time uses MANY names for video tapes. They market many of their compilations in boxes that make them look like new release titles. Then people get pissed off to find out that they got a Comp. When people started to figure this out (and bypassing Leisure Time titles), Leisure Time began using other Company names to do the same thing. So far with DVD, they haven't gone to the same extremes.With JM/Legend, JM is the company that produces the videos, and Legend is the company that markets and distributes the videos. In some other cases, a company will have different names to designate what type of title a movie is. Vivid titles are more of couples type titles with plots, costumes, etc... While Vivid Raw are their "Gonzo" style titles, where there is no story and the sex is a little more extreme. Other times a company may have gone out of business, but has sold it's catalog to another company. In the early days of DVD, some of the companies had other companies produce their DVD's for them until they could get up to speed and do them themselves (Wicked is an example of this).  [Link] |
VCArules inactive user
Shit town, IL, USA 53 Posts 8/00
| Posted - Dec 2 2000 : 7:52AM
Hey Spesedy, Who CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If the movie looks fuckin' hot but it and if it doesn't then don't. I am interested in studios, but not which catagories they go into. I can tell you're really not a porn coinesseur. The way I see it if you start worrying about porn studios it basically means you have alot of time on your hands. -VCArules  [Link] |
HoustonDon Member
Houston 561 Posts 11/99
| Posted - Dec 2 2000 : 8:34AM
VCA, if that's the case, why does your name reflect a particular company? [Link] |
JKRULL Jill Kelly Productions
beverly hills California 99 Posts 7/00
| Posted - Dec 2 2000 : 8:52AM
Way to help out a new member VCARULES, extend that hand of freindship, well done. If YOU were an expert as you claim you would know how deceptive labeling hurts consumers. Currently there is a company in Las Vegas selling 67 titles under the ULTIMATE PICTURES banner, and XXXEZONE is marketing these as ULTIMATE for streaming video, to some of the adult sites out there So what your saying if the box says ULTIMATE but is really a PRECIOUS title, it is OK, if the box is hot? Gee, I guess when the consumer puts the tape in a finds a 10 year old fat chick compilation instread of an Ultimate quality title, it is ok with you? This is one example of 100's. out there. Also many titles are coming in from Europe and the Far East (where VCA does their replication) that are bootlegged, with small changes in studio names, things like VCO Pictures, Adam Productions, Sunlight Productions to name a few.It SHOULD be a concern. Deceptive sales practices deceive the consumer and hurts the integrity of the business. It was a fair question and Bill gave a quality answer. JK  [Link] |
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spesedy Member
Germany 238 Posts 8/00
| Posted - Dec 2 2000 : 9:09AM
Bill Broderick:Thanks a lot... your answer sheds some light on the weird connections between the different studios. When I found the first videos which obviously belonged to another studio instead of the one shown on the store webpage, I thought, it might have been a typo, but with increasing examples I thought it couldn't be that simple. I still wonder why one store lists a title under another studio than another store, since this renders the studios' ideas to use several names useless. VCArules: Hi VCArules, since I never got a reply less friendly than yours I thought I'd take some short time to answer it. Well... I guess if I got the time to care about studios, I can also spend some time to answer an unfriendly reply. First of all : Being able to read helps a lot. Of course I know that I'm no coinesseur of the Porn-biz. I never talked about the porn itself. I guess I have seen enough over the last few years, from every studio I can think of. I saw films hard and soft, young and old, kinky and romantic, black and white, yellow and green, thin and fat, cheap and expensive, and I don't care if I make the impression of being a porn coinesseur or not. The way I see it if you start writing negative replies without any constructive information in it, it basically means you have more time on your hands than me. JKRULL: Thanks for your support. This was definitely an important question for me because in the past it happened more than once that I ordered some title which I thought was released by a certein studio known to me as a quality studio, and when I received it, I saw that this wasn't the original studio to create the film and the quality was lacking. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one interested in this topic. Edited by - spesedy on Dec 2 2000
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astroknight  Questionable Moderator
Tastes so good... 4187 Posts 11/99
| Posted - Dec 2 2000 : 1:34PM
Putting my two cents in on the alightly off topic topic, yes the individula companies matter. Since JKRULL's paying attention here, I'll use Adam & Eve as an example (so in case I make any mistakes he can correct me). A year or so ago, Adam & Eve had several different names on their videos (Adam & Eve, Ultimate, and I can't think of the other one or two). Adam & Eve is one of the best companies out there for couples friendly porn. If I was a consumer looking for couples porn, I'd want to know about the other names as the quality would probably be comparable.The company name matters because you know what to expect somewhat. If you want to see the copmlete original feature, you know to avoid Vivid, as they frequently edit their movies to fit extras on. You also know that if it's a classic VCA release, editing might happen so VCA can protect its butt legally. With some companies you know that the transfer will be lousy, etc. Anyway, good question, spesedy. Hope we can all help you out here.  [Link] |
HoustonDon Member
Houston 561 Posts 11/99
| Posted - Dec 2 2000 : 2:58PM
Spe, Bill was right on. Look at how many companies produce similar looking packaging in a weak attempt to imitate (or confuse consumers) better companies work. Hold up a few of the boxes to those look-a-like companies and you will see some of them go so far as to use the same color case in an effort to gain sales. Others just slightly change their names. The bottomline is buyer beware.One of the benefits to using this site-aside from the usually friendly atmosphere-is that the reviews are a product of consumers and not paid off professionals. Even Gene Ross, a 14 year former employee of AVN, now readily admits to some of the shenanigans that went on there...  [Link] |