Dang, been a long time since I could do that. Feels good.

DenverDon

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Edited by - infimum on 7/21/2005 5:04:02 PM

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I agree with the original poster. I'm glad someone pointed out this annoyance/pet peeve of mine. I just wrote in another thread about how I skipped Big Wet Asses 5 and Big Wet Tits 2 because of their all-Euro casts. The same went for Zero Tolerance last year when I started picking up their boxes and not seeing one single face or name I recognized in nearly any of their titles. When they brought their show back to these shores, I started buying them again (most notably the stellar Wet Dreams Cum True 4 and Double Decker Sandwich 6, I couldn't STOP raving about these two!!!). A few Euros thrown in here and there isn't bad, but to do a solely Euro American-made movie...sorry, it just ain't my thing. I don't find enough of them even memorable or worth watching to fill out an entire five or six scenes.

The only time I intentionally seek out all Euro casts are when I'm looking for big bust titles like Roy Alexandre's Natural Wonders of the World , Evil Angel/Christoph Clark's Big Natural Tits and Zero Tolerance/David Perry's lone volume of Fresh Jugs. That much they've got down cold. But the rest of those non-descript anal waifs with vacant eyes aren't my cup of tea.

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Unless, like I said, they have huge tits. Then I don't care.

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I know that I've come to completely ignore Devils Film ever since they essentially became Devils Film Europe.

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Jacco

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The myth that (Eastern) European porn girls have no distinctive personalities is just that, a myth. The fact that so many of them seem to come across as clock watchers or sex robots, is because a lot of producers/directors allow them to get away with it en even encourage it. And a lot of those producers/directors happen to be American, who are often watching the clock themselves when shooting in Europe because they want to maximize their time spent in Buda or Prague. And then I am not even talking about some of the more assholey type of directors who like to make 'fun' of them or just plainly take advantage of them because of the language problems.

I have said this before and I am not afraid to say it again. How come certain directors are able to coax very personalized performances out of the same European girls who come off as dead fish in other productions? Again, I blame the producers/directors, not the girls.

btw, the vast majority of American talent isn't very distinct or easily identifiable either, unless you have seen the performers in 5+ titles.




cv said:
“Star Trek. When I stopped watching it, I got laid.”

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European all the way!!

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i had to jump in and say i never thought somebody would reference Bourdieu in this forum!!
i guess i need to hang out here a lot more and pay attention to some of your discussions, i may learn something

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Jacco

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If there is a real competition on the horizon for the Hungarian girls...it is Bulgaria.

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Stating a personal preferece is one thing, but when you are starting to 'make meaning' based on just your personal preference, you stop 'making sense'.



Fockwolfe said:
“Porn is the only product in the world made, directed, produced, and distributed by people who are non-consumers of what they sell. And that explains a lot.”

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DenverDon

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I love both European and American porn stars, all of them have got their own charm!

Why should some people always go with statements like "Euro girls are more beautiful" or "Euro girls are cold compared to American babes who really like sex"...as long as we can enjoy hotties from both continents in awesome productions, that's our main concern, isn't it?

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The Ameri/Euro debate might be interminable , and I guess some people find it stale , but I enjoy seeing it . At least it means people are spending some time wondering if there might be something better out there . Even if it's just to plant their own national flag a little more firmly . And , personally , I can't stand English girls as they appear in porn . So fake in their forced coarseness , as if being a gutter mouth is in some way endearing . Or sexy . Thanks for almost always acting up to the worst possible stereotype of the bottom-rung English . Ah , fuck it , it's only porn . Right ?

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i avoid a lot of the euro stuff because it's too filled with circus-acts for my tastes, won't buy rocco or woodman's stuff because of their purported lack of character and clark's stuff more than borders on the homoerotic to me. i repeat-to me.

marti and the other hustler dude are watchable, jules and streams are too and that's about 50/50 for what i think is the better stuff out there. there are plenty of pretty americans too, which should be obvious from the taryn/hillary-itis this place has.

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The fact that some American companies have whole lines devoted to Euro-babes, is definitely budgetary, since shooting can be cheaper by almost half in costs. When I shot in Prague 2 years ago, I shot 7 scenes in 30 days while G.A. and his group from 3rd Degree shot something like 5-7 volumes in 2 blitzkrieg weeks. The mainstream film industry has gone to Eastern Europe for these same reduction in costs. (I went since I was starting my mid-life crisis early.)

Regretfully, it seems, the European market is not attracting as many Michelle Wild's as it has previously (I haven't yet boned-up on the other threads on this topic). The "clock-watching" issues and cold performances of some can be partially attributed to the fact that they can make even better money turning tricks at the local nightclub later that night. Also the economics of this part of the world is changing for the better, and it's harder to entice a gorgeous girl to get in front of the camera; especially since the distribution is wider reaching now, and they are likely to be noticed, even in their own city.

Still, I am a European Lover and hope to find a gig to get me back to Prague and Budapest, as soon as possible. (Have camera, will travel.)

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