That sort of info gets bandied about all the time ...

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It must be burried in there. It's also mixed in the general forum and others. I just thought it would be nice to have a subforum just for adult film makers to discuss making adult films.

Seems like the general forum is more for talking about DVD releases which is cool. And tech is more for technology stuff like Vista/non porn stuff.

I feel like I'm posting out of place in either really. A separate forum for it would make sense I think because people who are asking about their Vista/Apple pc don't want to hear about what wide angle lens someone else is using. And I'm sure someone talking about the hottest DVD to just be released in the porn pool doesn't want to hear about tripods. ha

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Right now anyone who wants to ask more of a film making related question could post it in the Porn Pool but it would get lost in the mix because people there don't really want to talk about it.

Just imagine an "Ask Jules Jordan about directing" thread or some other thread where an industry professional chimes in to answer questions. That won't happen in the porn pool because it would get bumped back and the incentive to create that thread is lost. Whereas having a dedicated subforum professionals might be more open to sharing their expertise or experience to upandcoming adult film makers.

And so could fans who buy their DVDs. Just a suggestion.

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But seriously, vision is not transferrable. I will never direct like Jules Jordan. I will never be as smooth as Mike Quasar. Or as gritty/edgy as some of the other directors out there. But I can still learn a lot from them.

Regarding how to light a porn set, how to shoot certain angles, how to prepare for some of the BS that is coming my way.

The vision and overall ideas is what will make it all different. The inbetween is what I'd like to talk about. Just is such a waste that there is no subforum for it given there are so many here apparently that think 90% is crap. I would think that feedback to upandcoming directors would be valuable. I personally would listen to what fans thought. My plan is to direct based on my views as a fan, what's missing, what I would change, what I like, etc.

Just such a waste that there isn't a subforum for it. All these professionals login here and create accounts to post messages and could stop by and share a few suggestions in that subforum based on their experiences. Fans could post in there with there ideas and then even see the finished products afterwards. Do you think Steph would create one? Or am I wasting my time suggesting it. :)

Thanks...

Edited by - danceswithporn on 4/7/2007 7:01:14 PM

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Industry people generally search their name if they don't participate regularly. So if you mention the name of the person you're hoping will answer your question chances are they'll see the thread and answer if they feel like it.

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Thanks for the reply. But let me quote this:

"DVD compatibility, DVD authoring, computer stuff, digital devices, all things techie (including adult film making)"

Just isn't the same as a dedicated film maker subforum. I hate to say it but I think posting film making stuff in there would be a waste of time and would be really out of place. This could be verified by looking through the first 3-5 pages which are all related to DVD/PC stuff.

Also I think a film making subforum would be a big hit here given the fact that so many people that post here have been on an adult film set before. Where else can you really say that? It's just such a waste to not have one here.

If I found 50-100 existing threads on ADT regarding adult film making that could be moved there to start it..would you consider a test run? :)

If anything by attracting wannabe film makers to your forums you'd be increasing the overall quality and influence of these forums on the products created. And increase traffic and reviews. Plus it gives well known adult professionals more of an outlet to reply to posts. Encouraging more pornstars, directors to register and join the discussions.

Would be huge for the forums I think as a resource in the long run too.

People that make indie adult films would flock here for feedback and tips and ideas. Possibly adding more reviews and it increases your overall content, expanding out your marketshare. :)

Edited by - danceswithporn on 4/7/2007 10:54:43 PM

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I do think the concept of the sub-forum is OK, but I doubt it would be very busy. If we see more discussions of this type over time we could certainly add a sub-forum. It only takes me 15 minutes or so to poke the values into the database.

If you found 50 - 100 posts from over 1 million made since 1999 that could be moved into the sub-forum I don't think that's enough volume. It would be better left in tech talk or right here in the porn pool.

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The reality is who wants to help anyone. Everytime you help someone you could be helping yourself instead. But the reality is people do help each other. Even their competitors because at the end of the day vision conquers all and vision isn't transferrable.

But whatever, you're the boss. I guess we'll never know..maybe in the future I guess...or I could always create my own forum..who knows..

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Steph: I dont get why it should be in tech talk? Kind of sounds on you that it is really hard creating a subforum. I believe it would be worth the effort though.

Drew Black: That is a very tiresome and dull opinion. I think that the forum has already proved you wrong on this. I think the forum is quite open for sharing buisness information.

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I would think it would be a great way for professionals to advertise their work by talking about how they filmed it.

"When I was working on XYZ, we had this and this problem, we did this to resolve it, you will notice here that this happened. This is why..etc. etc."

I personally would go out and rent or buy DVDs just on hearing about stuff like that just to see what they are talking about. If they said they used this lens on this scene, this lens on the next, this on the next, I would watch their movie to see the difference.

It's like currently when someone brings up a star and a scene, people get the background on it and after they get the background it makes them want to see it even more.

Anyways I have rambled on this for some time now. It's apparent they don't want the subforum here. I've had like 5 mods including the owner of the site say no. :)

So I don't want to keep pushing something they don't want. That's why I tried to drop it.

Edited by - danceswithporn on 4/26/2007 6:42:46 PM

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I think the amount of work that goes into a book is just too much. Then getting good distribution for it is tough. And then getting bookstores to stock it considering it's adult film related is tough! The few that are out there are never instock in any bookstores. They just don't keep them out.

So that's why I think a forum would be a better viable alternative. Quick answers on a few topics. The threads would all get archived and be searchable across the web. The professional that provides "insider" feedback and info on adult film making would be greatly praised. Would receive some recognition for certain films. It would almost be like a graduate level forum on adult film. Lighting, cameras, etc.

They don't cover that in film school either. There is no adult film 101. So there is a huge market out there for a forum about it. Many would agree there are tons of film makers out there doing porn, too many in fact! Yet there is no forum for them???

I have thought about creating my own forum and I've been seriously thinking about it. For $85 a year I can get a vbulletin software package. For $60 a year I can get hosting. For $10 I can get a domain. I could have it up and running for around $155. I could always upgrade hosting and sell advertising in each subforum.

I have ideas on marketing it and making it a premiere forum. I think I would have to branch it out though and in many ways it would be a competitor to this site.

Is it worth it? Time will tell. :)

And could you imagine if someone registered on my forum some newbie film maker..and learned from the forum and came out with a top selling adult dvd. Suddenly they are blowing up and all those newb film makers that are the future of adult films that are posting on my forum are attracting talent. And that talent (famous pornstars) will want to talk with them on my forum and network. Then that talent attracts posters who want to talk about adult dvds with talent in the other subforums!

Suddenly AdultDVDtalk is out of business! j/k LOL

Edited by - danceswithporn on 4/26/2007 6:59:58 PM

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People that want to give feedback on the making of adult films do it all the time right here in the porn pool.

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Trying it out can't hurt.

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it would always be cool to hear some filmer/director's opinions on everything. it would also be benefitial because they could say "don't use [insert product] here to shoot because is sucks for [this reason]". that's just my opinion, though. no disrespect to Steph and Drew.

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I agree that we already have a forum for technical stuff. Anyone who wants to discuss lighting, cameras and stuff already has a forum for that.

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As for suggestions, yes, they are all over the forums, and they are also all over the map. However, people tend to make them in threads according to subject, or because an industry person they wish to make the suggestion to has already posted in that thread. This seems logical enough to me.

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