I haven't seen it, but according to IAFD they are.
Edit:
One of the SE four hour comp dvd's has a scene with Tom Byron and Tracey Adams. This scene also has Nikki Charm and Shone Taylor (I think that's who they are). Based on the premise I think this was taken from the video "Campus Cuties". According to IAFD these four performers also happen to appear in Swedish Erotica 67, Swedish Erotica Hard 3 and Taste Of Nicki Charm, all comps.
If I were a betting man, without seeing any of these videos I'd bet these all used the same scene. But this is entirely speculation.
Diagonally parked in a parallel universe 576 Posts 5/03
Posted - Mar 24 2007 : 2:12PM
I don't know specificallythe answer to your question but, between Caballero's 4-hour comps and Oddyssey's 2-hour re-releases, it's damn difficult to pin down the scenes and pairings generally.
The box art is not adequate to inform you fer sure. IAFD is great, but some of their info on these series is, sadly, inaccurate.
I don't think that you can blame IAFD for their info being inaccurate as Caballero is reediting the Swedish Erotica releases so the numbers and scenes don't correlate with the original releases, which is not IAFD's fault. I don't know if Odyssey is doing the same thing.
My past is a foreign country. Most things are different there, including word usage. 503 Posts 12/06
Posted - Mar 24 2007 : 10:22PM
I think Son of Dad has it right.
I became interested in identifying this scene (suspected it was from Swedish Erotica 67) when I noted that Tracey Adams was listed in AdultFilmsDataBase.com as having started in the film business in 1985 at 27 years old.
Here are some stills from the scene I recalled which was in a high school locker room with two teenage couples. Tracey sure doesn't look 27 in this scene.
That shot is probably unique and a 'no doubt' confirmation of the scene (and it's source).
Based on the cover art of 'Campus Cuties' my guess is that it did NOT come from that video. Nikki Charm's blonde hair is long on the cover art and short in this scene (if that is Nikki, the other female in this scene).
How about confirmation of Tracey Adam's age? Did she really start in the business at age 27 (1985)?
Diagonally parked in a parallel universe 576 Posts 5/03
Posted - Mar 26 2007 : 2:15PM
No, it is 2 separate BGs (Tracey Adams/Tom Byron, Nikki Charm/?). Of course this brings into play one of my pet peeves: just when it's going good they cut away to the other couple.
Anyway, I do promise to get that disc ID for you soon.
Tracey Adams really looks young in those pics! I always saw her as kind of mid-thirties when I did see her in the videos. I did not know it until almost at the end of her career; that she was a lesbian! It kind of shocked me! I know that she appear in alot of bisexual scenes; but a straight lesbian?
Sheesh. Took a while as I have a half-dozen discs in this series, and the chapter menu doesn't show every scene. (And, of course, it was on the last one I checked.)
It's scene #1. If you don't have an Xrent account, you might be able to match it up on IAFD to scope other renters/sellers.
Diagonally parked in a parallel universe 576 Posts 5/03
Posted - Apr 3 2007 : 2:52PM
Very weird, Robert. The disc I have is one I rented (and kept) from Xrent. I can't say with authority (too lazy to check) that it is Scene #1, but it shows up first when you go to the chapter menu (on my disc).
I am aware of the re-issue/re-editing situation (yellow-box 2-hour vs. red-box 4-hour), but the link I entered above shows exactly the one I have.
My past is a foreign country. Most things are different there, including word usage. 503 Posts 12/06
Posted - Apr 5 2007 : 4:21PM
I don't want to beat this thing to death, but I'd like to correct my mistake of saying the 'scene' was not scene #1. I wasn't paying attention to the 'label' on the DVD I received from XRent. It was Swedish Erotica #2 (Cabellero).
I just got Swedish Erotica #7 (Cabellero) from XRent and it in fact does have the 'scene' as #1.
BTW, the 'scene' on Swedish Erotica #7 (Cabellero) is longer than the one on Swedish Erotica #2 (Cabellero) (22:16 vs 21:10)
Caballero just released a slew of Swedish Eroticas. The later numbers like 70 through 90. There are all star based comps. Nina Hartley, Erica Boyer, Debi Diamond, Ginger Lynn, Amber Lynn, Tracey Adams, Tami Monroe etc. But the factory that pressed the Ginger and Amber Lynn discs fucked up. They mistakenly labelled the Ginger Lynn disc with the Amber Lynn art work and vice versa. If you rent or buy the Amber Lynn volume, the Ginger Lynn movie is on the disc and if you watch the Ginger Lynn movie, the Amber Lynn movie is on the disc. The factory fucked up and mixed up the Lynn girls discs.
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Posted - Apr 6 2007 : 1:49PM
Ha, no problem, Robert. I do enjoy any comments on these series, though. I have a kind of love/hate feeling about them. I guess the originals were all 60-minute editions and the current duelling 2- and 4-hour reissues are a challenge for scene ID before renting/buying. The box art is not necessarily deceptive, but usually inadequate.
In addition to the stars M.B. mentioned, I'm a big fan of Blondi Bee (the beach bunny-type blonde who did BG only with Tony Montana), many of whose scenes are scattered in these series. IDing them from the box art is a crapshoot at best.
The other aspect of the love/hate thing is that, among all that short-attention span, quickcut to the guy's face every 3 seconds-type editing (scourge of Classic Era porn, IMO), there are mixed in some wonderful scenes from the era.
I wish there were a site where I could find definitive scene breakdowns for these reissues. (Can't find much on Caballero's site.)
My past is a foreign country. Most things are different there, including word usage. 503 Posts 12/06
Posted - Apr 6 2007 : 4:00PM
I rented (Excalibur Exchange program actually) many of the VHS originals (typically 4 scenes) that had very acurate synopsis of each scene (with still shot) on the back cover.
I don't recall that they ever indicated the source, but my memory isn't what it used to be, which was damn poor on my good days.
Anyway, according to my records, I viewed (and enjoyed) titles #3, #6, #7, #9 and then #12 - #18, #20, #22, #28, & #24. For some reason the 'missing' releases had already faded into 'Out of Print.'
Then I started viewing the series titled 'Swedish Erotica Classic Collections' which were longer. My memory, being what it was (and is), I can't recall how many of the scenes that were in the 'original' series appeared in the new series. I viewed numbers #3 - #22, #25, #28, #30, #44. A lot of repeats.
Today, even if Caballero listed the scenes in the new DVD versions it wouldn't help me much. I can't remember (until I see it again) what scenes I have already viewed.
They were great though, which is more than I can say for the current stuff (Gonzo & Compilations). And that is not because of my poor memory. I'm comparing the scenes from 'Swedish' that I've viewed in the past two years with the 'other' stuff.
4 hours of Seka beats all of the 210 Zero Tolerance DVDs currently listed by XRent (IMHO), although I must admit I have only viewed about 3 Zero Tolerance DVDs. The titles were different, but the content seemed the same. Maybe they are trying to save money by using the same scripts.
BTW, that brings up a thought I had while reading an article (BusinessWeek) on the current Virtual Reality technology. Going off topic here... it would be a boon to the production of Zero Tolerance's material. They could just film the face of each of their models and then 'paste' the face into one of their productions to create a 'new' one. Talk about getting the cost of production down.
Diagonally parked in a parallel universe 576 Posts 5/03
Posted - Apr 14 2007 : 2:27PM
Robert, it seems we agree as to the classics in comparison to the modern Jackass-the-Porn-Movie genres and studios. Try as I might, though, I'm finding it next to impossible to keep track of the various reissues of the S.E. editions (some of which are identically numbered).
Anyway, I rented one of the latest (yellow box) editions coming out in Xrent, #85 starring Tami Monroe. They don't put a length on the box cover, but this one was 7 scenes lasting 131 minutes. There were 4 BG and 3 lez scenes, all of which are available on DVD from either the older (red box 4-hour) series or from early 90s Caballero features.
I tell you all this merely to point out that they have also Tracey Adams - #73 available, as I know you are a fan.
All this latest batch (featuring only one star) appear to be similar, so I guess you can expect about the same 4-BG-3-lez scene setup. I can only recommend that you inspect closely the box art to see whether you already own those scenes. I can tell you that I couldn't recognize some of the Tami Monroe scenes on the box, but later found that I had all but one scene already in my possession.
I hope you will comment further on any of these disks. It's too expensive and time-consuming to find out everything on my own.