I don't know if he used the name Talon in the gay stuff, but I'm sure with a little research you can discover some of the gay titles he starred in. Happy hunting.

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He's good eye candy, but I never found him to be that compelling to watch. If he's in the scene, I'll watch him, but I don't go out of my way to rent his stuff.

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I'm sure if Talon was either getting it from a guy, or giving it to a guy, he was having a good time doing it.

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The number one nightmare of any director/producer is that talent will contract HIV on your set. So we do think twice, or more than twice, about hiring a male actor who's done gay work in the past.

For me the logic is simple, if he's done gay in the past, the guy is gay or bi. Which means that he may only have done girls for the past 10 years on film, but who knows what he's doing in his personal time? Last night he could've been banging a couple of porn starlets, or taking it in the ass in a West Hollywood glory hole. It's a big risk to take.

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and who cares if the guy is gay, bi, straight, asexual? the girls are usually bi or gay as well. whats the difference?

i love the people think most porn people are going out and fucking all kinds of chicks/dudes whatever the night before a scene. i would bet that most guys the night before a scene dont have sex at all.

the number one nightmare on a set isnt the hiv scare. its whether the girl shows up, whether she looks good, whether her test is good.......out of the millions of scenes produced over the years, HIV has shown up how many times? like 5 maybe?

so if a director is really worried about a male talent's past, then he is obviously not a very good director. and you can quote me on that.

i love it when porn people get moral. nice. nothing like a double standard.

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And HIV is the number one nightmare, probably because it is so rare. Girls fail to show up all the time. We're used to it, and often make contingency plans if we're using a girl that's known to be flaky. Are you seriously telling me that someone not showing up for a scene would scare you more than someone catching a life-threatening, incurable disease on your set? I can't believe you're in the biz, even though you imply it.

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And your statements are dangerously reminiscent of blind political correctness if the face of scientifically accrued knowledge. I will particularly take issue with your statement, "...is that gay men are more likely to contract HIV/AIDS than female performers, a view not necessarily supported by facts...".

Take a look at this: http://www.avert.org/usastatg.htm. These statistics show at least a five to one higher risk for all gay males versus hetero- (and presumably homo-) sexual females for contracting HIV. That's a big difference. Are you willing to take that kind of risk just to be politically correct?

I'm not willing to take that risk, and that's all I was trying to say.

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On the other hand, according to the UK Government Office of National Statistics:

"The biggest component in the rapid rise in the numbers of new HIV diagnoses has been in heterosexually acquired infections. Since 1999 the number of new HIV diagnoses in heterosexual men and women have outnumbered those in homosexual and bisexual men.

The 3,801 new HIV infections diagnosed in 2003 that were heterosexually acquired is an increase of more than four times the number in 1996, when less than 900 such infections were diagnosed annually."

Though I of course appreciate that this data relates to the UK population as a whole, and patterns of behaviour amongst porn professionals in particular might arguably skew the data in a variety of ways.

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If you want talon recomendations avoid anything where he is paired with a feminine "curvy" girl. The only scenes I have seen him enjoy are ones with Melissa Laurens body type.

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So, rest assured, you can't catch anything from a gay/bi man with a clean bill of health.

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I like your movies, think you have a great body, and you stay hard all the time. Have you done anything more recently that might be coming out soon?

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But hey, as they say, 87% of people know that statistics can be used to prove anything. C'est la vie.

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I know you mentioned you don't like him in gonzo, but he has worked a bit for Bryan Xin. You can find him in a super hot scene with Roxy in ANAL4, and I believe that he was also in Truly Nice Ass 7 with Renee Pornero. Hope this helps.

"Okay....go. And...go. Go."

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ps : Kami, I read in an online interview that you've had issues with Talon in the past, kudos to you for putting those issues aside for this thread. That's a very classy thing to do.

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And VT, the choking in ANAL4 wasn't the kind of choking where you feel like the girl will pass out or have her windpipe broken any moment. It was more sexual and definitely enjoyed by the girls in the scenes.

"Okay....go. And...go. Go."

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https://www.adultdvdtalk.com/forum/topic.dlt/topic_id=55046/forum_id=5/cat_id=1/55046.htm

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Also, I really do not understand if someone was actually gay, why they would do straight porn. Isn't the pay for males in gay porn a great deal more than straight porn? I am pretty sure that's the reason you get a lot of straight guys going over to gay porn. And you probably wouldn't hire a gay guy for a straight film because I'm guessing he wouldn't perform very well. I remember hearing about how long Casey Donovan's scene in The Opening in Misty Beethoven took to shoot, and right there I could understand why wouldn't want to.

Also, with the AIDS thing. If they guy has done gay porn in recent years than he was required to wear a condom, unless he did a bareback vid. If he has done a bareback vid, then the he will become a pariah in the gay industry. A good number of companies will not hire guys who have done bareback vids. Pretty much all the major studios are condom only, unlike straight porn. If he is having uprotected sex, gay or straight, in his private life, then you are taking a risk with him contracting an STD either way. The AIDS risk also increases if he is using needle drugs in his private life.

The same goes for the girls. If they are having unprotected sex in their private lives then they are still at risk. If it isn't AIDS then it's some other STD.

Yes, AIDS is a nightmare, but the thing is, if everyone is playing it safe (getting tested, being responsible, ect.) then you shouldn't have to worry. If you go out and have unprotected, annymous sex, man or woman, straight or gay, then you are putting yourself at a risk, and you are putting everyone you work with at a risk. It's that simple. And not all gay men go out and get their asses reamed at a glory hole.

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Edited by - threesomebody on 5/21/2006 7:13:15 AM

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Edited by - myadultgroups2 on 5/21/2006 9:01:31 AM

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Where oh where is Hardware when we need him?

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Edited by - jamesnadt on 5/21/2006 4:18:54 PM

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AIM and AVN rode the coat-tails of his work some time afterwards, do you consider them real sources?

if it's bullshit, he would have taken it down by now.

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Pax Jamesn

Edited by - AztecGold11 on 5/21/2006 4:39:30 PM

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pax aztek.

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If Talon has unprotected oral or anal sex with an HIV positive person and then jumps on a non-condom set the next day, that is indeed irresponsible, but the rest of this industry is just as irresponsible as he is. Honestly, I'm furious not because of this story, whether it is true or not, it goes beyond. All these guys that started in the gay side of the industry, they're stigmatized for the rest of their career. Every time there's a thread about Peter North, there's an asshole breaking news that he did 2 gay movies in 1935 under the pseudonym Matt Ramsey. Julian was on Wankus'show recently and all he could ask him about was these 2 movies he did one thousand years ago. Everytime somebody mentions Kurt Lockwood, there's a strap-on joke waiting to happen. I ask for Talon recommendations and 3 answers down the line, newsbreak, Lex Baldwin ! Does anybody question the sex lives of girls in this industry ? Because they never give blow-jobs to unknowns on the side, of course.

These guys are scrutinized because they've had a gay past and GAY = AIDS, as brilliantly demonstrated earlier in this thread. Well, no, unprotected sex = AIDS and everybody who doesn't wear a condom should feel concerned, which is 100% of this industry, and not only former gay performers. Talon was ostracized way before this story and I remember a story (another one) of a contract girl on a JKP set refusing to have sex with him because he used to do gay videos. He had tested like everybody else and the scene was condom-only. But are you kidding ? He used to do guys ! He MUST have AIDS ! And if I take it personally, a decade of hearing that AIDS is a gay disease will do this to a gay man. You may not hear this in Talon's story but that's all I can hear. If he did what Hillary said he did, yes he should be quarantined until his next test and maybe beyond, but there's much more to this story than a potential HIV crisis and that's called ignorance.

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the issue at hand is whether talon got head from someone absolutely infected.

i happily watch julian scenes. my wife thinks he's beautiful, he doesn't talk so he's a personal favorite. should i learn he recieved oral sex from an hiv+ person, girl or boy, it wouldn't be that way.

Edited by - jamesnadt on 5/21/2006 6:02:49 PM

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I was only pointing out that if a girl KNOWINGLY had sexual contact with someone who was KNOWN to have HIV then it would be a fair comparison. Having unprotected sex, even with AIM tests every two weeks, is indeed still risky and irresponsible but not half as irresponsible as taking head from someone you KNOW to be infected and then having unprotected sex with others afterwards. Trying to compare the everyday goings on of the performers in this business and what Talon allegedly did is ludicrous.

In fact, this is the last I'm saying about the subject because it was never my intention to get into some sort of argument about the situation. What I brought to the discussion was obviously already very well known and my thread is closed/locked. I have nothing more to add.

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Who knows if he even did blow him? That's just what he told me. It's of course considered gossip because I wasn't present during the alleged homo loving.

ALSO, AIM's HIV testing is the most advanced screening that exists because it can detect the virus within 2 WEEKS of exposure!! Talon works often and tests every 30 days just like all of us. SO, there is no need for him to be quarantined for fucks sake.

These types of concerns are for us performers to deal with, not for you guys to discuss on the internet!! In the future, realize that lukeisback.com, adultfyi.com etc are GOSSIP websites and "serious" stories like this are TYPICALLY exaggerated or taken out of context (such as this one).

Soooooooo end of story!

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Now - End of story.

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