While the last thread about this subject devolved into a yelling match about Taylor and IR, I still believe positive comments on how to best record this gang bang can be made.
Fortunately, a moderator has given permission to broach the subject again. HOWEVER, LET ME BE THE FIRST TO SAY, (AND YES, I KNOW I'M YELLING), DO NOT SUGGEST OR DISCUSS IR!
For all intents and purposes, the answer to this question was clearly answered by Dion in the initial thread. IF YOU FEEL YOU MUST COMMENT ON THIS ISSUE, PLEASE START YOUR OWN TOPIC!
Considering that most readers of ADT consider Taylor a lock for Best New Starlet, this will easily be a big-seller. So tearing a page out of Letterman's book, here's my Top Ten list of what I would like to see:
10. Good house location (as opposed to a fake, crappy set) 9. Lot of foreplay and oral leading to dick hardening (of the guys and the viewer) 8. Nice all-over body tan (as in FH5 and SA13) 7. Sexy schoolgirl uniform or a wrap dress for Taylor 6. NO second star (even though no one thinks Lucy Lee is more worthy than me) 5. Lots of behind-the-scenes and before-after footage 4. Taylor starts with her hair done up so you can see how tangled and mussed up it becomes at the conclusion 3. Dirty talk and verbal abuse (of the guys, not by the guys) instead of just moaning 2. True Multi-Angle with two or three cameras (like Digital Playground's All-Star) 1. Money shot split between a facial/swallowing scene.
As for what should be avoided, the list is much shorter:
1. Mark Davis 2. Weak pops (see #1) 3. Verbal abuse of Taylor (by the guys) 4. Circle jerks (make sure the guys stand off to the side) 5. Bad editing
i agree with everything you say traderhtc. I hope the comments in this thread are positive and held create a better taylor rain gangbang video. In the last thread about 90% of the comments were just pointless in terms of the whole idea of the thread in the first place. It was created so fans could give feedback, and comments not complaints and degradation. ok include traderhtc's top things to see as mine as well. I think good good camera work is essential, costume and presenation of taylor essential, either way she will look good, and plenty of extra features such as behind the scenes footage, before and after the shoot, and interviews would be tops
Include lots of deep throating, gagging, spitting, hair-pulling, slapping, spanking, Balls Deep fucking her pussy & ass (none of this one inch deep fucking I see too much of these days), toe & feet sucking, nipple pinching, 4-finger fingering her tight pussy & ass, hard & rough anal sex, dps, dpps, daps, loads of facials & swallowing, & multiple positions: Missionary, CG, RCG, Standing up, Doggy, Spoon, etc. All shot in every possible camera angles. We wanna see Ms. Rain from all corners! Also include tons of bonus footage & behind the scenes for this most Gorgeous Girl in Porn.
The Nastier & Rougher the Sex, the better for her fans!
Dion, I would only feature Taylor for this movie. If you have to break it up into 2 separate Taylor scenes for the movie, that would be good.
Two or (even!) three cameras? Come on dude, this is Taylor Fucking Rain shoot. This isn't just another gang-bang video. This is the Super Bowl (tm) of gangbang videos! You should shoot less no less than six (6!) cameras. I would suggest you deploy them as follows:
1) Close up on Taylor's face
2) Close up on Taylor's ass/pussy
3) Medium shot on Taylor from her navel to the top of her head
4) Medium shot on Taylor from her breasts to her thighs
5) Close up moving from face to face of the guys fucking her
6) Master
That's the bare minimum. Right off the top of my head I can think of 3 more camera placements/assignments I'd want if I was shooting someone like Taylor Rain. After all, if something's worth doing, it's worth doing right!
I'm hesitant to post this, considering how ugly the last thread got, but it's important that all views be heard, and my view is that creampies are not nasty enough.
I'll simply point out that Anabolic's GBG is probably the most popular GB series in America, and the whole theme is based around cum swallowing.
Lately I have noticed posters becoming fairly hard headed about their views, and I'm probably falling into that category as well, but I'm convinced now that adult movies should become more specialized in their content.
If RLD wants to make a GB series with cream pies, there's certainly a market for that, and we know based on Anabolic's success with their GBG series that there is a market for cum swallowing.
I just don't think a series that tries to appeal to both kinks at once is going to sell as well.
PS: My greatest fear is that after all these years a US company like RLD will finally shoot a series in Japan, and then shoot creampies. God what a waste.
Nothing says I love you so much as a tongue in the ass. 2884 Posts 1/03
Posted - Sep 27 2003 : 8:57AM
I think that the scene should be less formal and formulaic than recent gangbangs. Let Taylor put her sexuality on full display. Get rid of the Chinese Fire Drill aspect with 30 seconds of stroking and a tap on the shoulder. If some alpha dog has her going, let it run. Make her cum. Several times. Once she's pliable and submissive, use her up. Throat fuck her. Let her choose most of the guys in the video, but bring in a couple of new ones for her to get a fresh experience.
i would love to see something like an "double gangbang".
I explain: Taylor have lots of fun with 10 or 12 guys, with all the nice things like dp, dpp, dap, deep throat et cetera, and finally Taylor swallow as much as possible.
Then the guys leaving the location, and Taylor (still lying and spreading) cleans a bit with a towel, then the next group of horny guys come in, and it begins round 2. At the second round Taylor becomes many cream pies and maybe facials.
I would love to see Taylor taking every load right in the mouth, just like she did in Feeding Frenzy 2. If she could hold 3-5 loads in her mouth before swallowing, that would be perfect. I cannot wait to see this DVD!
DIRTY TALKING BY TAYLOR ONLY! HAVE HER BEGGING THE GUYS TO DO THE DEEDS WITH HER SWEET INNOCENT VOICE)
GUYS ZIP THEIR TRAPS SHUT.
FINGERS AND TOYS FOR FOREPLAY.
DEEP THROATING.
DPP AND DAP'S.
ATM'S
CREATIVE POSITIONING. (IE...COUPLE OF GUYS HOLDING HER UP IN THE AIR AND THE GUYS TAKE TURNS FUCKING HER DOGGIE/MISH/DP WHILE THE GUYS ARE HOLDING LEGS SPREAD)
ALL FACIAL/SWALLOWING ENDINGS. MULTIPLE LOAD SWALLOWING. CUPS, BOWLS, STRAWS OR JUST STRAIGHT TO THE GULLET. CREAMPIES ARE A WASTE IN MY EYES.
GOOD/CREATIVE EDITING.
LOTS OF BONUS/BEHIND THE SCENES ACTION. (IE...INTERVIEW, SHOWERING, PEEING, SHAVING, SQUIRTING, OUTFIT SWITCHING(HAVE HER BRING LOTS OF HOT OUTFITS AND TAPE HER IN ALL OF THEM USING THE TEASE TYPE FOOTAGE)(IE...WALKING AROUND, UP THE STAIRS, BENDING OVER, ECT...))
I suggest pouring oil all over her hot body (kind of like they do at the bars with two or three guys soaking her). She'll get all nice and slippery and shiny!
I'd have to second the notion of seeing taylor swallow some loads, to make up for ff2
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Posted - Oct 2 2003 : 6:16AM
This is an excellent and very positive (as opposed to last tread) suggestion, Thommy!!!
Let me just add, that Taylor should rather not wipe too much spunk of her first <assailants> away. A nice idea would be to stage the 2nd gangbang as fake-gangrape (which Taylor of course clearly enjoys, too!) fellowing a first volontary gangbang. Please, RLD, make also sure that Taylor Rain really gets pounded hard, with LOTS of anal, DAP etc, as many have pointed out already. watch Anabolics masterpieces GBG18, 19 and 34 and make them just look like vanilla! Lots of verbal abuse on both sides. Also, please dont stage this on bed or cheap sofa - better take an industrial setting. Finally: I dream of Taylors stockings torn into pieces at the end.
I believe this is the second time that Dion has reached an agreement with Taylor regarding a gangbang only to have it fall through. The first time was in the Hey Dion thread.
While I generally have a great deal of respect for his participation in Adult DVD Talk, I have to frankly say that I am a little disappointed in him right now. At least he knows what we want if this scene ever does get filmed. Hopefully, he'll stay quiet about it until it's in the can!
We all know how flaky talent can be, but he's got a lot of egg on his face by not addressing the issue completely. I can understand not wanting to be a gentleman about the whole debacle, but I would like more definitive closure beyond
I don't think the Legend deal is going to benefit Taylor significantly in terms of finances or public awareness. Hannah Harper signed with them and is now back as a freelancer (doing much better work, by the way). My guess is that the gang bang may still be recorded in six months if Legend saturates the market with her work and then drops her like a hot potato like they did with Hannah.
I do have one more suggestion if this is ever does get recorded. While TonyC did make an interesting suggestion, I don't think it would be practical in such a confined space. However, I would love it if Dion was to tear a page from Wicked's Space Nuts and have a picture-in-picture commentary with Taylor pleasuring herself to her own video. It would be a major coup in terms of upping the technological standards for gonzo porn.
I also find it somewhat ironic that Taylor also made a brief cameo in Casting Calls bonus feature of Space Nuts where director Jonathan Morgan was looking for future stars, but did not put her in the actual movie itself.
Here's the latest from Luke Ford.comThis looks like good news on multiple fronts. This probably prohibits the possibility of Taylor signing with any company in the near future as well as a return to hardcore actions.Considering how crazy this girl is in real life, it's going to be interesting to see how she would perform in a gangbang, but..I was incredibly jealous of Faynor until I read that next to last paragraph. However, I agree that she will be back in the biz before too long.
It'll be interesting if Dion actually films the scene. Hopefully, he can get some leverage on Taylor to actually show acts with performers that we really want to see. He's been extremely tight-lipped considering how the deal fell through twice, but I would still like real closure as to what really took place.
I agree with the most number of cameras requested. The actors should be almost 10 for the final cumshots. It’s not necessary that all the ten cocks fuck her, only the bigger (four or five with a couple of big black cocks)! The smaller are good for blowjob and cumshot! The presence of another girl can make the scene more nasty and juicy. She can take in her mouth some loads of cum form Taylor’s asshole and exchange them with miss Rain! She can use humiliating words towards Taylor: “came on guys! open her ass!”.... I think that the second girl must have a small body like taylor but not the same sweet and innocence face, so I think that she could be venus. What do you think? Can I post my plot?
What exactly is the deal involving the making of this film? There's so many unconfirmed rumours regarding Taylor out there.
If it's a go, this would be the biggest coup since Anabolic signed Shyla to Gangbang Girl #34 as her farewell to hardcore. This would be doubly memorable if Dion was able to execute the act before Taylor became a contract girl or gets married.
According to one message board, she's back in the biz! This isn't much of a surprise (if you read my previous post).
The real question is Scott Faynor. He is continually putting up conflicting messages on his website:
Shortly before Christmas, he posts this wonderful little present :
Then later on, he writes :I guess we'll know for sure on January 11th. Feel free to post your opinions or any conjecture here, but I'm also interested in hard facts from industry source if possible!
well we can probably hear it straight from the horses mouth since he posted here before. Who will prevail in this struggle, Dion and his 12 noble jedi knights forom the gangbang cast or the evil Darth Fayner. Lol j/k
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Edited by - 4theheart on 1/3/2004 12:24:51 AM
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1921 Posts 7/03
Posted - Jan 3 2004 : 12:11PM
I'm not Taylor Rain fan. She's okay, but just not my taste. Any mature adult knows that being 18 does not make you the most intelligent person on earth. I really don't care who does IR, but for you to put (No IR Comments) on your post is nothing less than racist! The fact that moderators allow that in the title makes me question the legitimacy of the board. Don't do me any favors, if you decide to post about Ariana Jollie, or whoatever her name is, why don't you make the title (No Niggaz Aloowed)
This is muc too much. Porn supporters talk about free speach, but in a forum where the discussion is nothing but porn, you censor topics, and routinely edit post of an interacial nature.
It's a damn shame. I love porn, and good sex is good sex regardless if it's IR or not. I agree, no one should be bashing a star for thier beliefs or prefferences, but who are you to dictate who responds to your post and the manor in which that happens. Leave it up to a moderator, and if they decide to play the race card, so be it.
I don't see a problem with anyone starting a topic and asking that others stay on topic. As a moderator, I'll allow some leeway in where a thread goes, but I also respect the author's desire to keep the discussion on topic. I agree that the title is questionable when taken out of context, but a little research would have shown you that racism was not the point. As traderhtc said, 'While the last thread about this subject devolved into a yelling match about Taylor and IR, I still believe positive comments on how to best record this gang bang can be made.'
Insofar as your comment re' free speech goes, there's no speech when everybody starts shouting and nobody's listening. That's why the Forum Etiquette exists, to set boundaries within which civilized discussions can take place. The fact that the discussions revolve around porn isn't a free pass for people to climb on their hobby horses and start yelling about free speech when taken to task. So, yes, we routinely ride herd on topics like IR that generate a lot of heat without much light. That's what we're here for. If you have any issues with that, feel free to email me or another moderator about it.
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Firmly Embedded in Depravity 5914 Posts 7/02
Posted - Jan 3 2004 : 2:47PM
Pocketcomb_Pimp,
In addition to the Forum Etiquette that Hardware referred to, there is the FAQ page. A link is at the top right of this page.
A quote from the FAQ page:
"If you have an issue with how something has been moderated send a polite email to the moderator or me (webmaster@adultdvdtalk.com). Posting a bunch of crazed nonsense about democracy and free speech will only lead to the deactivation of your account."
Edited by - DenverDon on 1/3/2004 2:47:48 PM
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51 Posts 11/03
Posted - Jan 3 2004 : 3:42PM
Phew... Just read all of the previous replies. What a cropload of words! Since i wanted to react to the title of this thread "Taylor Rain Gang Bang Suggestions" i'll leave it at just one suggestion: use the option of 'multiple angle view' that's available within the DVD standard. Film the whole gang bang with a wide variety of cams, including dildo mounted cams and finger cams, for instance. It'll give all of us plenty of options to click thru a scene, simply by pushing on the 'angle' button on our DVD remote control. I gues that all the other info like good make up, enough guys, nice outfit etc, etc, is simply more than obvious.
Edited by - Baby Grandpa on 1/3/2004 3:43:32 PM
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1921 Posts 7/03
Posted - Jan 3 2004 : 4:26PM
I agree. It's nice when you start a thread to have all subsequent replies be on topic. At the same time, I have seen some topics locked and deleted faster than you can say Interracial!
Steph is no stranger, we have chatted, and I have no doubt that the originator wants this to be a fun and open place to discuss. One of the topics we have discussed is the moderation of the forum, and I am nothing less than shocked that you didn't delete my post. People tend to get scared here when IR is brought up.
I'm not here for drama, but I'm not here to be censored either. Fan or not, Taylor is free to do what she wants, but how welcome would my thread be if I said "What's Lex's next move (No White Comments)" I bet the filth would fly, and people would be ready to call a "Spade a spade"
All I'm saying is let's be fair. I have talked to many industry people, and I know many moderators have as well. When I have a compliment or comment, they always tell me to post on ADT.
So it's obvious to me that the IR community looks at you as an industry leader. I there voice can't be heard here, you are restricting a larger part of your audiance than you might ever know.
The reason it says "No IR Comments" is because the topic of Taylor Rain and IR had been discussed in previous posts months ago. They ended up in arguments that never really went anywhere. The poster who posted this wanted to avoid such fighting by making sure the fights wouldn't stray his Gang Bang Suggestion post too far off topic.
To clarify and reiterate, please see how the original topic degenerated away from the initial subject. I'm in no way a racist (being a minority) and cleared the subject matter with a mod. I'm a big fan of Lex Steele (among others) and would love to see him to do a scene with Taylor, but please respect the wishes of my initial post and either let the issue drop or address it elsewhere.
To Sanders:
I have nothing personal against Mark Davis. Frankly, a LOT of new girls to industry seem want him as their partner and he brings a sense of comfort to his initial scenes as well as doing some nice strength moves. However, he seems overexposed (read as overworked) because his pop shots are incredibly weak, and I enjoy watching really good money shots.
To Dion:
What's the story here? Is Taylor going back into retirement? Is she only doing the nasty for Skeeter Kerkove? Is multi-angle possible? Don't leave us out of the loop, man!
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DenverDon Benevolent
Firmly Embedded in Depravity 5914 Posts 7/02
Posted - Jan 3 2004 : 11:08PM
Mod Note:
This thread is quickly veering wildly off topic. Bring it back on topic or it will be locked also.
Moderation discussion, take to email.
Other topics that don't belong here, start a different thread but keep it civil.
Poor Turkey running for her life with Christmas Hat 3713 Posts 9/01
Posted - Jan 4 2004 : 2:40PM
What I want to see is what Taylor said she would do, namely a double everything gangbang. If RLD can catch it, good; but Skeet will do just fine. If RLD does a Taylor Rain gangbang, I would like to see Erik direct and Mike be the cameraman.
Poor Turkey running for her life with Christmas Hat 3713 Posts 9/01
Posted - Jan 5 2004 : 11:34AM
Absolutely agree with BF,
Skeet should be the man that captures the Taylor Rain gangbang and pop her double everything cherry. Run her through her paces and make her do what she agreed to many moons ago.