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Pontus Maximus
Senior Member


Man of Steel, meet your match.
1346 Posts
9/02
Posted - Oct 6 2003 : 7:42PM
The answer is "yes" according to Scott Fayner of Luke Ford:
Pontus
SyberScott
Senior Member

1462 Posts
1/03
Posted - Oct 7 2003 : 5:34AM
Bad news for us TR fans! Life goes on!
matt92
Member

19 Posts
12/02
Posted - Oct 7 2003 : 11:08AM
In all probabilty, it was probably never going to happen. Maybe it was all just a huge publicity stint for both Taylor and Red Light District? It was on, then off, then on again with Taylor supposed to have part ownership and now its off. The wheels had already started rolling on the Legend thing since late June, so to assume she was going to sign on for a gangbang when she seemed to have a contract already about to happen would hardly have been expected.

I buy a lot of Red Light District material. Obviously I wouldnt buy it of I didnt like it. Dion has the porn fans that post here eating out of his hand. RLD get an absolute brilliant run of publicity out of Adult DVD Talk. Personally, although I like some of the product, and will continue to purchase, I get jack of the contined ass-kissing and raving about RLD titles.

In my opinion, if the company owner gets online and broadcasts to the public that he has done a deal to have Taylor Rain in gangbang and that it will be shot in October, and he doesnt fulfill that promise, then he has to be held accountable. Maybe it isnt Dions fault - quite possibly Taylor screwed him and made him look like an idiot on this, but then Dion, as a man with industry experience, should have kept his mouth shut till the scene was in the can.

I would have loved to have purchased the title, but life goes on! Taylor is hot but I feel her star is fading a little. Since the spotlight has been really turned up on her the added publicity has made her come across as not the brightest crayon in the box. Or maybe that is just the way Scott Fayner likes to portray her? Who knows? The girl is a total babe. Her body is awesome. She fucks great. Just the more I learn about her personality the more turned off I get.

Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Oct 7 2003 : 11:36AM
I'm personally glad this gangbang got cancelled otherwise it would just have been another victory for people who only want to see white-on-white action. I consider this a victory for us interracial fans.
DenverDon
Benevolent

Firmly Embedded in Depravity
5914 Posts
7/02
Posted - Oct 7 2003 : 12:51PM
Huh?

A victory either way it went for one side or the other?

I think there is plenty of room for both.

DenverDon

 
Black Morris
Member

Tustin
8 Posts
9/03
Posted - Oct 7 2003 : 1:09PM
news sucks for you taylor rain fans...did she sign a contract with RLD to do the gangbang or her and the company were still going over the details of the film? dont want to sound like an ass im just curious...is anyone else here indifferent to the news of her gangbang being cancelled?
Black Morris
Member

Tustin
8 Posts
9/03
Posted - Oct 7 2003 : 1:13PM
missed your reply the first time around, true that... now that i know she dodges black dick i will never rent a movie with her in it even if theres 6 other hot chicks in it.
Pontus Maximus
Senior Member

Man of Steel, meet your match.
1346 Posts
9/02
Posted - Oct 7 2003 : 1:57PM
Matt92, judging by the number of your posts, you haven't been around here long. The reason that Dion Giarrusso is held in such high esteem at ADT is because he's earned it. The reason that he's earned that respect is that Dion has repeatedly gone all out of his way to listen to the suggestions and criticisms of ADTers, and then make changes in RLD's movies that reflect those suggestions/criticisms. For example (and there are many different types of examples), I've read several threads where an ADT member has come up with an idea for a new RLD line, and Dion immediately posted saying he agreed, promised that such a line would be created, and then a short time later, that new series got launched! Do you realize how rare it is that a company head (in or outside of porn) will actually listen to their consumers and immediately adopt the changes that they suggest?

Regarding that thread that Dion started where he (and Taylor Rain) asked for feedback about what fans would most like to see Taylor do in her gangbang movie, the fact that he even thought enough of ADTers to ask speaks volumes about Dion. Most studio heads would NEVER do that. They're not even open to such feedback (or at the very most, they don't solicit it). In that Taylor Rain thread when Dion noticed that several people were wanting to see her work with black guys, Dion went out of his way to try to persuade Taylor to include some black guys in her gangbang, even offering her a "sick" amount of money (presumably meaning a great deal of money). True, Taylor declined the offer and the whole thing was subsequently cancelled, but Dion did try his best on behalf of the fans. Dion is obsessed with giving porn fans what they want. The reason that he's so obsessed with it is that he realizes that it is the key to the great success of RLD (and the accompanying wealth and quality of life that he has achieved for himself and his family).

Dion has stated over and over again that at RLD, the customer is king (and then he continually backs it up). He has repeatedly credited the success of RLD with his willingness to listen to fans and then adopt their recommendations. ADTers are aware of this, and naturally show their appreciation. You see that as ass-kissing. Whatever. If you want to engage in trolling, fine.

Pontus

ricorocco
Member

212 Posts
4/03
Posted - Oct 7 2003 : 2:16PM
Was this all staged? Who knows except for the powers that be. All I know is that it's pretty disappointing to me since Taylor Rain was one of my favs. Life goes on and I have a new fav now and that is Arianna Jollee with GB35 and 23 guys!! Woohoo!

Cal, keep up the good work and looking forward to your next GB gal.

Dion, it's a shame but I'm still a fan of RDL and am wondering now with Taylor out of the picture who the lucky girl is. I suggest to go with Katsumi. She's another recent fav of mine now and she takes on Erik and Lex in one of your movies with no problems at all.

SyberScott
Senior Member

1462 Posts
1/03
Posted - Oct 7 2003 : 4:46PM
No big deal folks. Taylor's signed on exclusively
with Legend Video. There will be more new Taylor
Rain clones cumming on the Porn Scene soon!

Dion is the Man!

matt92
Member

19 Posts
12/02
Posted - Oct 8 2003 : 2:48AM
Pontus, dont be misled by merely the number of posts a person posts, as to whether they have any credibility or knowledge of what they are talking about. I read this board usually twice a day, and have done so for the past 3 years. Prior to that I scanned rame for years and used to hang in the old pst on the irc network. I have been involved in this industry for over 9 years, and seen RLD evolve from their first release.

So dont tell me i havnt been around here long, simply cause i dont bother to actually post much!

If Dion wants to take contructive critisism on board like you say, then I offer my original thoughts in that he shouldnt be telling the porn world something is happening if it doesnt happen. Simple as that. and if you re-read my post, I also mention that it may not be his fault it got cancelled.

IF people want to take all the accolades and positive media then they should also be prepared to accept the negative reports and critisism when it all turns south.

BUt I knew when I posted what I did that surely someone would rush to the defense of poor old RLD.

Like I said - they make great porn. I buy their stuff. But the main man shouldnt get everyone excited by announcing deals and projects that never happen

Jules_Jordan_Saviour
Member

Adelaide,Australia
81 Posts
8/03
Posted - Oct 8 2003 : 5:55AM
I agree with pontus maximus. The whole idea of the taylor rain thread was not too get people hyped up about the film. It was about finding out what the consumer wanted, and trying to create a final product that included what everyone wanted to see.
lsb4203
Deactivated User

92 Posts
10/03
Posted - Oct 8 2003 : 6:42AM
Jules Jordan already shot her for a gangbang. Check out Flesh Hunter 5 it she gets gangbanged by the mechanics and get tools stuffed in her ass.
DELLPORN
Deactivated User

16 Posts
8/03
Posted - Oct 8 2003 : 7:18AM
I am glad this movie was cancelled. Dion needs to be more careful about who he selects to star and any hight profile project. C'mon he had to know Taylor was famous for IR dodging!
Pontus Maximus
Senior Member

Man of Steel, meet your match.
1346 Posts
9/02
Posted - Oct 8 2003 : 9:16AM
matt92,

Pontus, dont be misled by merely the number of posts a person posts, as to whether they have any credibility...

I didn't attack your 'credibility.'

...or knowledge of what they are talking about.

It was your low number of posts combined with your seeming ignorance of some of the things that I pointed out in my post that made it seem to me that you hadn't been around at ADT long. Even then, I wasn't attacking you for it (I merely made an observation that turned out not to be true). My apologies for that wrong assumption.

I read this board usually twice a day, and have done so for the past 3 years. Prior to that I scanned rame for years and used to hang in the old pst on the irc network. I have been involved in this industry for over 9 years, and seen RLD evolve from their first release.

See above.

So dont tell me i havnt been around here long, simply cause i dont bother to actually post much!

You seem to be awfully sensitive for a person who heaps so much criticism on others.

If Dion wants to take contructive critisism on board like you say, then I offer my original thoughts in that he shouldnt be telling the porn world something is happening if it doesnt happen. Simple as that. and if you re-read my post, I also mention that it may not be his fault it got cancelled.

Dion announced what at the time he thought was a done deal. It later blew up in his face. Haven't you ever made a mistake? Attacking him for that is hardly what I think constitutes "constructive criticism." Plus, if Dion had followed your advice and "kept his mouth shut till the scene was in the can," then how could he have solicited suggestions from the fans on what they wanted to see in Taylor's gangbang, and then incorporate those suggestions into the scene as best he could?

IF people want to take all the accolades and positive media then they should also be prepared to accept the negative reports and critisism when it all turns south.

I never said otherwise. Ever since Dion has been posting here, I've observed that he takes negative feedback as well as he takes positive feedback. There's only one time I recall him not taking negative feedback well. That was when someone criticized him for not casting "fresh girls" in RLD movies. In fact, RLD goes all out of their way to get and use fresh girls in their movies on a regular basis. Dion responded and chastised the person who expressed that criticism only because that criticism was not true at all. After reading Dion's reply, the person who expressed that criticism realized that he was mistakened, and apologized to Dion. As far as I can tell, Dion takes criticism much better than most people do. In fact, he welcomes all constructive feedback, negative or positive.

BUt I knew when I posted what I did that surely someone would rush to the defense of poor old RLD.

There's a big difference between expressing constructive criticism and trolling. In my opinion, you were engaging in trolling (the whole point of which is to spark a reaction). Hence, you should have known in advance that you would likely get one. At least you weren't disappointed.

Like I said - they make great porn. I buy their stuff. But the main man shouldnt get everyone excited by announcing deals and projects that never happen

Again, that's not constructive criticism for the reasons that I pointed out above. That is my opinion. You're perfectly free to disagree.

Pontus

 
pronggod
Member

17 Posts
8/03
Posted - Oct 9 2003 : 3:40PM
Man there is a whole lot of whining in these forums. I agree criticisms both positive and negative can be constructive. But taking things personally no matter the amount of threads or experience in "this industry" is really counter-productive and maybe would be better handled if the 2 parties or more emailed among themselves and spare all us others the drama. Everybody is entitled to an opinion no matter how ridculous it seems or if they appear to be "trolling". Just ignore the post and stick to the discussion on hand.
Pontus Maximus
Senior Member

Man of Steel, meet your match.
1346 Posts
9/02
Posted - Oct 9 2003 : 4:01PM
Then why didn't you e-mail the parties yourself, pronggod? It would have spared us more 'drama.' Plus, this thread had run out of steam until you revived it.
Then why didn't you ignore the posts and stick to the discussion? If you're not going to follow your own advice, pronggod, then why should anyone else (especially when your advice was not solicited in the first place).

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MLyons
Senior Member

1617 Posts
8/02
Posted - Oct 9 2003 : 4:16PM
Here we go again with the noise... :)

So--does anyone have anything more to say in the general vicinity of the original topic, or shall we just let this thread make its way downward.....?

Mike L.

skronker
Notable Legendary Icon

Scopophiliac
9780 Posts
9/02
Posted - Oct 9 2003 : 4:34PM
Sheesh guys, go out to the parking lot and roll up yer sleeves.

Everything is an "if" until the shoot is done, always. I'm betting Taylor got a great deal with Legend, and why compromise that? Truth is, and we all know it, that the way porn careers go she could work at Legend for six months or a year and decide she's threw with the business -- or maybe she'll become a megastar, who knows? If she holds that gang bang in reserve, the scale could jump thru the roof by the time she decides to stage a "retirement party." Get my drift? I think she's just doing smart business.

Pontus Maximus
Senior Member

Man of Steel, meet your match.
1346 Posts
9/02
Posted - Oct 9 2003 : 4:37PM
Haha. Mike, the Taylor Rain/RLD gangbang issue is dead. If you decided to just lock this thread to preclude it from deteriorating into another needless flame war, it wouldn't hurt my feelings. Whatever you decide is cool, Mike. You're as great a moderator as you are a reviewer.

Pontus




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