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| Morter Forker Member Dallas 86 Posts 11/03 | your thoughts and recommendations? [Link] |
| DVDwishes ComX 1060 Posts 7/04 | |
| oatmeal Meat Popsicle Seeking Beauty 1738 Posts 8/04 | |
| -Kelly- Senior Member 2517 Posts 5/03 | Taylor's hot, probably a AVN Hall of Fame candidate someday. That is just talking about the performance side of things though. This KSEX stuff of the past 2 weeks has opened her up to allegations of being unreliable or a flake. There are a plethora of stories from her past that refute that and there are also stories from her past that do support that. Off to class...more later. Edited by - tscfan317 on 3/3/2005 12:33:54 PM |
| 4theheart Senior Member pornologist 3102 Posts 8/01 | |
| Silent Jay Member Venus De Costello 694 Posts 12/02 | W/ Brandon Iron and Lex Steele Is Definetly Worth a View Silent Jay - Host of the NON-Televised "Silent Jay Show" |
| DVDwishes ComX 1060 Posts 7/04 | it's really a shame too. she's a great performer. |
| -Kelly- Senior Member 2517 Posts 5/03 | "all I'm saying is I've heard of more than just the KSEX stuff going on." I have too, which would indicate that this is a pattern of behavior on her part and thus an indication of her true personality. I also have heard stuff to the contrary. However, I am detached from the industry and my information simply comes through e-mail correspondence or knowing the right places to read. So, all I can say is that Taylor has always been really nice to me. Personally, I think Taylor is a good answer to the old poll question of who should have been a bigger star than they were. A couple of years ago she was popular enough and AVN recognized her repeatedly, but she went in directions most people didn't expect. She just showed up to set, fucked, and went on with her life. But DVDWishes nailed it on the head: she really is a great performer. She was always really into the sex and is just a truly gorgeous woman (with amazing breasts). I am still surprised when people say, and this happens a lot it seems, that they never really knew who Taylor was until The Fashionistas . I believe Stagliano has even said that he didn't know much about her until casting for that film. "her website also seems to be down..." I noticed this too. Her other site, puredomination.com, is still up so I don't know what's going on with taylorstclaire.com. Recommendations: I'd recommend the following... Action Sports Sex 10-scene suffers from horrendous editing, but Taylor is just so clearly into this threesome with Mark Davis and Everhard Edited by - tscfan317 on 3/29/2005 6:35:54 PM |
| Morter Forker Member Dallas 86 Posts 11/03 | |
| Bill All-Star Member 5334 Posts 6/00 | P.S. I know she did a couple of scenes with her boyfriend earlier in her career. But since he couldn't get wood, do they really count? |
| DVDwishes ComX 1060 Posts 7/04 | |
| Lee O Forearm Trainer mmmmmmm........ after-birth 1193 Posts 8/03 | |
| -Kelly- Senior Member 2517 Posts 5/03 | "Was she ever a contract girl , or close to being one ?" She was signed to a contract with Ultimate Pictures alongside her exclusive on-screen boyfriend. However, that didn't last long because her boyfriend was stifling her and they broke up, and she literally starting freelancing as a non-exclusive boy/girl performer the day after the break up. She has said that from that point on she turned down various contract offers. The conundrum here for a lot of girls is the reality that they will make much more money as an independent than a contract star so all they gain is notoriety and the guarantee of a steady job. Taylor never did sign a contract and stayed an indepedent performer, never even being represented by any agency on top of that. Which companies offered her contracts? She's never said, but I could make some educated guesses. In consideration of what DVDwishes said about rumors though, I'll just leave it at that. Bill said: I have sometimes looked at the Taylor from "Infinite Bliss" and wondered what she would have looked like doing all that nasty b/g stuff. Really, the way she looked earlier in her career if she had gone to b/g sooner I think she would have been the heir to Nikki Dial because her body was just as flawless and she was just as gorgeous. However, instead she was more like Tracey Adams than Nikki Dial and gained weight as she went along. I would tend to agree that if she had jumped sooner and not unfortunately chosen to be exclusive to her boyfriend for so long (and before and after that, he was the reason she stayed g/g only-he stalled her career big time) she could have been a bigger star. However, with DVDwishes I must also agree: I never had any problem with her weight (Tracey's weight, on the other hand, did bother me). And if Taylor loooks as good (corset noted) as Tiffany Mynx does today I'd be happy to see her do b/g scenes again. As it stands, she went out on Fashionistas and that's not a bad note to leave on. Edited by - tscfan317 on 3/29/2005 6:37:04 PM |
| MASAMUNE Senior Member 1452 Posts 12/04 | |
| -Kelly- Senior Member 2517 Posts 5/03 | That would be news to me and I highly doubt it. The only porn stars I've heard accused of that are Bianca Trump and Jessica Darlin, with the former accusation apparently being true and the latter coming simply because Jessica doesn't back down from talking about her controversial views. Edited by - tscfan317 on 3/4/2005 12:57:59 PM |
| DVDwishes ComX 1060 Posts 7/04 | |
| Bill All-Star Member 5334 Posts 6/00 | If you want to compare Tiffany Mynx to Taylor St.Claire, you really need to compare her to Taylor of the g/g era, not the b/g era. Otherwise Tiffany wins, hands down. |
| -Kelly- Senior Member 2517 Posts 5/03 | If you listen to pretty much the majority of Taylor's comments on that DVD commentary and you'll see that she is very self-concious about her weight...and you're throwing it right back in her face. Then again, the truth hurts and what you are matter-of-factly saying is pretty much true. Tiffany and Taylor- Ultimately, I think the comparison is fair. However, your opinion of Taylor's appearance is quite clearly that for your tastes the post 95-98 Taylor isn't in the same league as Tiffany, no matter the era. Fair enough. I disagree, but I understand why you say that. Then again, we are founding our opinions on two directly opposed beliefs: she needed the corsets or she didn't need the corests. So, that fundemental difference in thought can undermine us either way. Edited by - tscfan317 on 3/5/2005 6:17:16 PM |
| Bill All-Star Member 5334 Posts 6/00 | BTW, I've always considered myself a fan of Taylors, even after she gained weight. I own the vast majority of DVD's that feature Taylor, moreso the b/g ones because I'm not a big fan of g/g stuff. I just regret that there are very few of the types of scenes that I prefer when she was looking her best. |
| -Kelly- Senior Member 2517 Posts 5/03 | That can be annoying. To go back to an earlier example, by the time Tracey Adams got to Buttman she was already heavy. I would have loved to have seen the Tracey from Pretty Peaches 2 in those Buttman films just as you would have loved to have seen the Taylor from Infinite Bliss in all the gonzo stuff she did from around '01 on. I can relate. Taylor's weight never really bothered me like that for some reason-to the point that I would look back at how she used to look and wish she hadn't changed. Even with the Nikki Dial comparison, I guess the truth is I probably prefer the Taylor in Balls Deep 2 to the one from 95-98 just as I prefer the Avy Scott as of late compared to the Avy from her early RLD films. Maybe it's because I'm such a "big breast" fanatic. Edited by - tscfan317 on 3/5/2005 12:41:42 AM |
| Bill All-Star Member 5334 Posts 6/00 | I like both "versions" of Avy. She too has gotten heavier without appearing to be "fat". On the flip side, I think that Sammie Rhodes looked better early on before she lost some weight. I too am a "big breast fanatic". But for me, to be considered big, breasts have to be large in proportion to the rest of the body. There's a point at which, I stop thinking of someone as being "well endowed" and start thinking about her as being "fat". Tracey and Avy have never hit that line for me. Taylor walked it like it was a tightrope. Edited by - Bill on 3/5/2005 9:52:17 AM |
| -Kelly- Senior Member 2517 Posts 5/03 | I never considered Tracey or Avy or Sammie or Taylor fat. With Tracey, as she got heavier her face seemed to get bigger and that is really what ruined her for me. With Avy, part of the reason I took so long to notice her is because, frankly, I didn't find her especially attractive at first. It wasn't until I saw her on the cover of Where the Sun Don't Shine that I was sold and at that point I looked back at her earlier stuff and liked it because it was Avy but not nearly as much as her later scenes. With Sammie, I lost interest quickly-she went the Mirage route instead of the Tracey or Avy route. And with Taylor I only thought she looked "fat" once-in Lipstick Lesbians 7. Otherwise, those times when she would go it without a corset I thought she looked fine. However, in "Face Sitting Fanatics 5" from mid-last year she was wearing a corset again and it looked like she had added even more weight and that was the first time since "lipstick 7" that it had bothered me. Again, from what I can tell she has been losing weight ever since then. |
| croy Platinum Member Discovry 4574 Posts 3/04 | |
| imak Adult Film Legend 3345 Posts 2/04 | |
| DVDwishes ComX 1060 Posts 7/04 | I haven't seen any of Taylor's other stuff. that being said I thought her scene with Rocco was perfectly matched. she's a tall woman, not even concerning her weight, and Rocco had no problem in dominating her. I do believe that is the real problem that you're having Bill. she's not "fat" just taller than most women in the industry and the same height as most of the guys. now if you put her next to one of these dudes who have to look ripped, and she doesn't have a six-pack or has zero body fat like the Tiffany of old, then you will say she's "not skinny." I thought I made it clear by now that I'm a rabid fan of The Fashionistas and I've watched the film and listened to the commentary several times over. I needed a little inspiration when writing a proposed sequel I've heard Taylor mention not wanting to drink because it goes to her stomach, but I think she looks sensational. that red latex outfit she wore in her scene with Rocco ... I'm still trying to get a friend of mine, who is a fan of the film, to wear that only problem being is she's got a latex allergy. Edited by - DVDwishes on 3/5/2005 9:55:41 AM |
| Bill All-Star Member 5334 Posts 6/00 | I think that Taylor was the first and became the second. The others all stayed within the realm of the well proportioned category. Taylor reminds me a lot of Christy Canyon in this regard. Christy, before and after retirement #1, is my ATF as far as looks go, hands down. When she joined Vivid and gained weight, I lost all attraction for her (no it has nothing to do that she was working for Vivid). She went into that second category. Subsequently, when she lost weight and was thinner than she was at 18, I still wasn't attracted because the first place that she lost weight was in her breasts. What caught my attention in the first place, her great breasts, had become mere shells of their former selves. |
| DVDwishes ComX 1060 Posts 7/04 | Sarenna Lee and Autumn Jade were just like Christy Canyon once. they were both, at least Autumn, natually full breasted women. Sarenna Lee had implants, but both her and Autumn were very thin women with large breasts. at one point they both, I'm guessing, became tired of not eating a full meal and let themselves fill out. I liked out it made Autumn look because she was naturally that large, so it made everything look nice and yummy on her. Sarenna on the other hand had implants, so it didn't look as well to me. on the other hand she had a larger following then Autumn. many thought she was a spitting image of Marylin Monroe only with bigger breasts. she actually did several photoshoots with her in a white dress ala Marylin and it was a big hit. like yourself, Bill, a great many of her fans balked when she put on a few pounds and filled out because to them she was "heavy" and they liked the old Sarenna Lee. which was really sad to me. the same could be said for Linsey Dawn McKenzie who started shooting when she was 16 yrs old. a few years back she was putting on a few pounds, but it still looked good on her. suddenly she disappeared and when she returned to shooting again all the weight was gone and it was a HUGE change. you thought she pulled an Oprah for a minute. |
| -Kelly- Senior Member 2517 Posts 5/03 | Second off, Bill I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this whole matter. It's like each example we throw out the other looks at it and says, "Really? I didn't see it that way at all." Here is my exposure to Christy Canyon: the Alpha Blue Archive compilation of her mid 80s scenes and her Vivid work in the early 90s. I didn't really find Christy attractive beyond her amazing breasts in any of the scenes in the ALpha Blue DVD, but the thicker bodied one with the straight black hair in stuff like Passages 2, Passages 3, In Defense of Savannah, etc. drives me crazy. (hell, I just realized this is kind of a replay of Avy Scott for me). However, I do concur with you on the final comeback Christy from 95-97: she had lost weight and although she looked to be in spectacular shape the hardest hit bodypart was her breasts and as such it ruined her for me. To be honest though, I also didn't like how much make-up she was wearing then and the fact that she seemed to have gone to a red hair color. It was all stacking up against me. I had a similar reaction to the remarkably trimmed down Scotti Andrews that did a handful of scenes last year. And I understand why you had to use the word fat to connotate some distinction, but I think people reading this thread who haven't seen a lot of Taylor St. Claire scenes would probably get a really bad idea of what she must look like. Then again, in your position I probably couldn't have avoided the word either. Edited by - tscfan317 on 3/29/2005 6:40:31 PM |
| croy Platinum Member Discovry 4574 Posts 3/04 | |
| imak Adult Film Legend 3345 Posts 2/04 | |
| DVDwishes ComX 1060 Posts 7/04 | |
| oatmeal Meat Popsicle Seeking Beauty 1738 Posts 8/04 | How many times am I going to dig that photo up? I think that's the third time. |
| imak Adult Film Legend 3345 Posts 2/04 | ya notice the corset! before kinda clear pic after |
| DVDwishes ComX 1060 Posts 7/04 | |
| croy Platinum Member Discovry 4574 Posts 3/04 | The point is that she was not in that 18-20 age group when most porn stars start. As many here will testify, when the years go by the pounds are harder to fight off. |
| oatmeal Meat Popsicle Seeking Beauty 1738 Posts 8/04 | |
| imak Adult Film Legend 3345 Posts 2/04 | |
| imak Adult Film Legend 3345 Posts 2/04 | |
| -Kelly- Senior Member 2517 Posts 5/03 | I saw this boxcover recently and thought you looked amazing. I am confused on one thing though: Heather is now Paris Gables. Jessica Sweet is now Britney Rears. Are you still Kami Andrews or is your stage name officially changed to Salome? On TSC- If Taylor looks as good as Kami or Tiffany do now, it'd be a shame not to see her in b/g again (that is speaking just as a fan of course...even if she is in great shape I realize there are still some serious considerations to deal with before making such a decision). Beside that, there isn't much else to say anymore. For those interested, her website is back up now. Apparently, there had been some problem with registering the name and that is why it was down all last week. Edited by - tscfan317 on 3/7/2005 9:29:53 PM |
| imak Adult Film Legend 3345 Posts 2/04 | |
| -Kelly- Senior Member 2517 Posts 5/03 | |
| Redish Poetic Moderator Long and Cursive road to the Ivory Pagoda in the province of Loraine 4076 Posts 12/03 | |
| Crucifixio_Jones Senior Member Arrogant & Obnoxious Narcissist 4727 Posts 10/03 | I remember my favorite scene being a threeway involving Dillon Day, Justine Romee (who I absolutely adored when this came out) and a brunette whose name I couldn't recall. Turns out it was Taylor St. Claire. Just thought I'd share. For Vivid, this scene was pretty damn smokin'. Dillon, Taylor and Justine? It had NO CHOICE. |
| DVDwishes ComX 1060 Posts 7/04 | |
| -Kelly- Senior Member 2517 Posts 5/03 | I remember that movie. There's a scene toward the end, if memory recalls, where Dillion is talking to Taylor's grave and she is standing there talking back as an angel. It's ever so porno-acting but it's a good example of the fact that Taylor always seemed to enjoy acting in features. Additionally, on Justine Romee's official site she talked about that scene when it was shot and had some quote about Taylor's pussy being the best she ever tasted or something. It was long ago enough that I remember it because I posted it on my old fansite. Croy is correct in pointing out that Taylor started later than most girls. Nikki Dial started when she was still 18 or 19 and so many girls now start when they are still teenagers, but Taylor was already into her 20s when did her first adult video and further along when she did her first boy/girl. Like Kami, Taylor went through her fair share of weight fluctations and since we've been talking about what Taylor looked like from here to there I figured I'd give some links to those of you unfamiliar with her so you don't just have to take my word for it: Glamour Model-G/G Only Taylor- Tan Lines from '94 or '95, barely recognize her, early solo photoshoot (good indication of my Nikki Dial comparison), first boy/girl 1997 Edited by - tscfan317 on 3/7/2005 10:40:51 PM |
| Frank3784 Member 219 Posts 4/03 | |
| Destroyer Deactivated User Quebec 21 Posts 12/04 | End most important, Taylor as play in 2 movie that i really like, Cocktail 2 and Forced Entry from Extreme Associates, she do some of the most extreme thing in normal porn and its a thing that i really apreciate. Thats why i really call "Gonzo". |
| Bill All-Star Member 5334 Posts 6/00 | |
| -Kelly- Senior Member 2517 Posts 5/03 | She never technically left. She stopped doing b/g scenes and just did g/g for lesser companies like Filmco. Then she decided to really focus on getting her websites, taylorstclaire.com and puredomination.com, up which translated into a long break from filming other than the occasional fetish shoot. Before that break, she had started considering a b/g comeback, but has yet to come to a decision. She is currently available for g/g, fetish, appearances, and photoshoots. As for the recent releases, you forgot Irresistable Temptations. Given the fact that Taylor's scene in Temptations is with Nikita Denise, I am unsure of when it was filmed. Hopefully I'll hear something from Taylor on that as wellas Naked Red Lips. And due to Taylor's friendship and meanbitches business relationship with David Christopher, it seems sure that until she officially retires she will occasionally pop up in a Decadent Divas scene like she has with volume 26. I talked more extensively about these 3 new releases in her official forum. Edited by - tscfan317 on 3/12/2005 12:25:26 PM |
| WickedPrincess Member Hollywood, CA 14 Posts 3/05 | Why should it "upset" people that she enjoys being sexually dominant at times? As a friend of Taylor's I find your statement to be absolutely absurd. |
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