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woody d
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38 Posts
10/05
Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 1:35AM
I was browsing adultfilmdatabase.com, and found a list entitled, "Growing master list, totally shaved scenes". It focuses on ladies who normally are not shaved, but who have been in one or more titles where they are fully shaved. Some very nice info there (I didn't know Jenna Jameson, Jassie, and half a dozen others had done fully shaved scenes, and I plan to check them out).
It also had an interesting essay, where a guy answered the question about just what it is, about fully-shaved beavers, that he likes.
The compiled list of titles takes about 30 postings. Would it be appropriate for me to spend 15 mintues, editing it, and post it here? If so, let me know, and I will. If not, go check it out there.
And, I would recommend that essay, not just for DVD watchers, but for any ladies in adult films who have pondered whether they should or shouldn't.
Gman
Member

144 Posts
7/05
Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 1:49AM
I would read it. As I've said in earlier posts, I prefer 'em smooth.
VincentVanGauge
Former Fucking Virgin

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1412 Posts
12/04
Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 1:19PM
http://www.funkyfridge.com/shop/images/EP-8395.jpg

I'm not fat. I just wrap my cock around my waist.

PL
Senior Member

God hates us all, you know it's true, God hates this place. - Slayer
1726 Posts
10/03
Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 1:37PM
I'm not fond of totally shaved. A nice trim bush is nice, but most I see is the landing strip kinda thing, which again is better than bald in my eyes.
KatjaKassin
Senior Member

1257 Posts
5/03
Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 3:34PM
Fully shaven is not a beaver anymore...
 
PL
Senior Member

God hates us all, you know it's true, God hates this place. - Slayer
1726 Posts
10/03
Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 3:46PM
Damn good point Katja
Ramsey
Senior Member

Trina Michaels fan
10332 Posts
10/02
Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 3:47PM
I love it shaved a lot more simply because it looks more clean and you can see more. The hairs hide too much in my opinion.
PL
Senior Member

God hates us all, you know it's true, God hates this place. - Slayer
1726 Posts
10/03
Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 5:19PM
LOL, What exactly does a landing strip hide? It's not really near the pussy.
Braad_Spitt
Member

Netherlands
39 Posts
10/05
Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 6:15PM
I like fully shaved.. to look at is one thing.. but I think it simply feels better when both parties are perfectly smooth and fully shaved.
Joel
Member

331 Posts
5/05
Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 7:51PM
I don't mind if fully shaved or a little hair. It's got to be under control for sure.

If it's bald it's better for eating pussy (no pubes in your mouth) and it's obvious where to use your swipe card

Edited by - joel on 10/27/2005 7:51:39 PM

Tinaka
Member

953 Posts
8/03
Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 8:39PM
I like to a pussy to have character, connected to the character of the woman. I like to wonder "how might she keep her pubic hair". Her being a wonan in the street, in a soap opera, a newsreader or a pornstar. Completely bald pussies kind of all look the same- there is no wondering or mystery. Also i find pubic hair so maturely feminine, part of what makes a woman a woman and not a little pre-pubescent girl, which of course is not attractive to me.
Though of course there is a place for a totally bald pussy if i feel it is in character with the woman. Variety is the key.

Edited by - Tinaka on 10/27/2005 8:40:25 PM

2GABT1
New Member

4 Posts
10/05
Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 9:56PM
I much prefer the completely bald pussy. It looks cleaner, feels smoother (if done right), and makes my mouth water. I just want to eat that pussy a lot more since there's nothing in the way. When I see a bald pussy on a woman, it says to me that she is horny, wants me to lick her, eat her, and fuck her. Sometimes I just have to comply with her wishes. It's a tough job but someone has to do it.
woody d
Member

38 Posts
10/05
Posted - Oct 27 2005 : 11:41PM
Here's that essay, from adultfilmdatabase.com, on why this guy likes completely smooth beaver (sorry, Katja, I just don't really like writing the other common words for the female sex organs, in things that some future detective, employer, etc. might be able to find, some day). The background was, this guy posted a challenge for guys who like really big boobs, to explain why. None of them could give a good explanation. So, one of the big-breast lovers challenged this guy to explain why he likes completely bald beavers. This was his answer.

**********

That's an interesting challenge. And, as you know, I personally like challenges.
A full answer would probably take a full essay, with a fair amount of psychology woven in. So here's a brief list of short answers that can be expanded if desired ...
1. I became resentful, when watching 70's & 80's porn, of just seeing some guy's dick disappear in a mess of hair. So, I headed the other direction, and never saw any particular stopping point.
2. The first time a lady ever did that, for me, it was truly great. Memorably great, including some of the best sex and most intense climaxes I ever shared with a lady. Turns out that SHE got turned on by it, too. In retrospect (I'm only guessing), it was kind of like, she had finally crossed some sort of line, in her mind, and she was finally able to start doing sexual stuff without caring at all what her parents might think about it.
That, plus, I've never been shy or reluctant about going down on a lady (at least, not if she's had a shower recently, and that can make a nice prelude ...), and when I did that, on her, it just seemed absolutely perfect. No pubes to get caught in my teeth, just clean and completely and TOTALLY naked, and she would start coming like the proverbial freight train.
I read a comment, somewhere, years ago, that love requires "an exchange of vulnerabilities". To some extent, a shaved beaver represents a type of vulnerability, in my mind. The way that particular relationship worked out, that first shaved session (which was repeated a couple more times, until she got the sense -- dang it -- that maybe I was liking them TOO much) seemed to help our relationship turn a corner, and get deeper. It lasted more than a year, and was one of the best "young love" relationships I ever had.
In all seriousness, it's hard to over-estimate the importance of an experience, and a memory, like that.
3. When I see a lady's wet, well-lubricated, nicely pink "mucous membranes" (can't we come up with a better phrase?) in a closeup scene, I don't want any distractions. For some reason, hair seems to be a distraction, for me, in a scene like that.
4. Seeing a closeup of a fully-shaved scene, when I KNOW the lady has a beautiful face but I'm busy focusing on other things, gives me that "inside" feeling (which, in my opinion, is the goal of any good porn scene). It makes my imagination kick into high gear, and it gets me to start thinking along the lines of, "Oh, yeah, this is what it's all about. I KNOW what it's like, to FEEL that." By contrast, unless a scene with a hairy bush is really special (which does indeed happen, sometimes), it leaves me feeling less involved, like I'm only watching. Instead of thinking, "I know what it feels like, to do that," the closest I can get with most scenes with hairy bushes is, "Yeah, I know what it looks like to watch that."

Those are my best short/medium answers. I assume that's more than you wanted, but anything less wouldn't be honest.

Edited by - woody d on 9/25/2006 1:47:11 AM

cross
Senior Member

I Love Beef Curtains!
1072 Posts
6/05
Posted - Oct 28 2005 : 12:19AM
I like to be able to see what she's got. I like to get my whole face in the whole area, with my tongue, nose and lips exploring.
I don't mind a bit of hair, but I don't want something i could build a tree hut in either.
Personally I shave and trim, and so far all of my girls have too.
woody d
Member

38 Posts
10/05
Posted - Oct 28 2005 : 1:55AM
Here's the compiled list of scenes, reorganized under new headings. I spot-checked a few against the IAFD database, and some were in there, but a substantial number weren't.
Any additions would be welcome, especially if accompanied with a short review or at least a quality rating.

SHAVED SCENES WITH WELL-KNOWN LADIES WHO USUALLY DON'T SHAVE:
Jenna Jameson: Smells Like Sex
Jill Kelly: This Year's Model
Jassie: Babyface
Kobe Tai: The Lie, Couples 1, Kobe's Tie, Bad Girls 8
Taylor Rain: Young Cream Pie 7, Creamy Pie Holes, Barely Legal 23, The Younger The Better 2
Luna Lane: Girl Power 9, Rampage 6
Tiffany Mason: Chasing the Big Ones 9, Chica Boom 7
Corina Taylor: Big Black Beef ..., Deep In Cream 5
Aurora Snow: Generation XXX
Dominica Leoni: Naughty College School Girls 9, Too Naughty To Say No 2, Fast Times at Deep Crack High (2?)
Mia Smiles: Little Asian Cherries 2, Star Quality, Kamikaze Kunts
Cytheria: Total Babes 4, Squirtwoman, Internal Combustion 3, Who's Your Daddy 4, Cytheria Style
Katie Morgan: Teen Sensations 2
Nikky Reed: Bring 'Em Young 11
Julie Rage: Pornstar Surprise
Nikky Blond: First Class Eurosluts #4
Jayna Oso: Fresh Pussy
Ann Harlow: Hustler's Callgirls Undercover
Kitty, before she had clit-rings installed: Barely 18, vol. 4, and Ripe & Ready, vol. 3
McKayla: Naughty College School Girls 2

STARLETS WHO ARE ALWAYS (OR ALMOST ALWAYS) SHAVED:
Teagan
Keri Sable
Carmen Luvana
Courtney Simpson
Randi Wright
Kimmie Kream
Aimee Tyler
Alex Dane
Alexis Taylor (favorites: Barely Legal 49, Cum Drippers 6)
Mary Kate Ashley = Kate Kaptive
Brandi Lyons
Tyra
Hailey Young
Randi Wright (before she got big dark tattoos on her stomach: Teen Dreams 7, North Pole 49)
European: Veronica Carso, Dora Venter, Niki Belucci


RECOMMENDED SHAVED SCENES WITH LESSER-KNOWN STARLETS:
Try-A-Teen 11: Roxy, fascinatingly full and generous p-lips, along with Katherine, small, slender, and extremely pretty
Legal Skin 8: Dori, more voluptuous; something about her face is remarkably calming & reassuring
Naughty College School Girls 16: Crystal, long blonde hair, perfect body, beautiful face and smile, clearly enjoying what's going on.
Fresh Hot Babes: Katie June
Paintball Babes: Phoenixxx Blacque
Nasty Prospects 1: Baby
Freshman Fantasies 18: Vivi Anne
Hustler series, Precious Pink (Body Business) #9: Angel
Hustler's Hot Letters 5: Honey Winter
Teen Tryouts 41: Salome
North Pole 57: Jewel


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Gunzo
Senior Member

1377 Posts
2/05
Posted - Oct 28 2005 : 9:27AM
If the girl is clean-shaved but her skin looks irritated I don't think it's the right choice for that particular girl. A good looking clean-shave is nice though. As long as the ass isn't hairy I'm cool with it ;)

And a fine list there, for us curious.

kataboom
master blaster

ad astra per aspera
995 Posts
6/03
Posted - Oct 28 2005 : 4:24PM
a possum perhaps?
KatjaKassin
Senior Member

1257 Posts
5/03
Posted - Oct 28 2005 : 4:30PM
pussy is a good word, no?
DenverDon
Benevolent

Firmly Embedded in Depravity
5914 Posts
7/02
Posted - Oct 28 2005 : 4:34PM
Yes it is Katja.
KatjaKassin
Senior Member

1257 Posts
5/03
Posted - Oct 29 2005 : 12:12AM
and the word pussy involves all sizes, shapes, shaven or hairy
(Beaver = big puffy and hairy)
(slit = tight, shaven)
Bob All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

5516 Posts
3/03
Posted - Oct 29 2005 : 12:22AM
Pussy is a lovely word, Katja -- especially when it comes from your lips.
pinkincide
Member

229 Posts
1/03
Posted - Oct 29 2005 : 2:40AM
Just wish all starlets would grow it out just once in their careers. I see that dense, dark fur of Lucy Lee and just wonder how it would look running down both sides of her twat. I don't mean they should go cavegirl, just leave it as a full frame instead of a little tuft. Leah Stevenson was really hairy in her early days and it was a hot contrast to her teeny bopper look.
Endless Loop
Senior Member

Tomatometer
1129 Posts
8/04
Posted - Oct 29 2005 : 2:42AM
I prefer the warm security, of a thick, dense pelt.

J.K. actually I prefer shaved, as it becomes the extention of her silky smooth ass.

Edited by - Endless Loop on 10/29/2005 2:44:06 AM

Joey Starr
Senior Member

Still wanking after all these years.
8082 Posts
10/00
Posted - Oct 29 2005 : 2:50AM
For hairless pussies I humbly suggest the name "sphynx".

Joey Starr
Senior Member

Still wanking after all these years.
8082 Posts
10/00
Posted - Oct 29 2005 : 2:51AM
+1 for that!
 
VincentVanGauge
Former Fucking Virgin

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1412 Posts
12/04
Posted - Oct 29 2005 : 8:42AM
You're so right. The only thing I love better than the word "pussy" is what it stands for.

I'm not fat. I just wrap my cock around my waist.

Do Not Filter My Results
Member

173 Posts
6/05
Posted - Oct 29 2005 : 9:24AM
I like a little of both - sometimes a shaven, sometimes a little bush as long as it doesn't look like the girl has Don King in a leg lock.
JiminyChristmas
Member

54 Posts
10/05
Posted - Oct 29 2005 : 12:35PM
I like the hair-level (or however you put it) of the softcore stars like Ginger Jolie or Kyla Cole.

I just don't get the appeal of the 10-year old girl look.

Unfortunately for me, the 'Natural Girls' type vids all look like they're smuggling Chewbacca in their panties.

There must be a happy medium somewhere!

Bob All-Star Supporter
All-Star Member

5516 Posts
3/03
Posted - Oct 29 2005 : 1:00PM
Joey Starr wrote:
Good one, Joey!
Cyberchicken
Member

900 Posts
4/02
Posted - Oct 30 2005 : 9:33AM
Bring back the Bush!

Seriously, it's one of the things I like about classic porn.

natural bush
natural bodies
natural boobs

What's not to like about that.

Well, the really ugly make up, clothes, and hairstyles, but everything else looked great.

woody d
Member

38 Posts
10/05
Posted - Oct 30 2005 : 11:19PM
I'm a fan of variety, and I tend to follow the dictum, "I'll try anything twice" (after all, you can usually do better the second time, after you've seen what something is all about and have actually experienced it once, on a trial run . . . of course, there are exceptions . . .)
I wish every lady in adult videos would do at least 2 videos with full bush, at least two completely shaved, at least two in the middle, and at least 2 with tiny trimmed "landing strips". It would suit me and a lot of other guys just fine, knowing we could try them all and keep the ones we liked.
KatjaKassin
Senior Member

1257 Posts
5/03
Posted - Oct 31 2005 : 1:10AM
here is my beaver:

http://board.katjakassin.de/displayimage.php?pid=386

Pagoda
Senior Member

Thread Killer
1747 Posts
10/05
Posted - Oct 31 2005 : 1:37AM
Katja, I couldn't get to your beaver. It wouldn't let me in. I'm so disappointed.

There was an episode of Will and Grace in which Karen (Megan Mullaly) had this young assistant played by McCauley "Home Alone" Culkin. When they make a date to have sex, Culkin tells her, "Go to the salon and get a bikini wax. I prefer a clean work surface." It was one of those, "Did he say that?" TV moments.

I've worn my womanly hair in every manner, and I prefer a full shave. It's more comfortable for me, and I feel fresh, clean and ready for sex at a moment's notice. I can see why some women in porn prefer it. It's the easiest thing to maintain too.

Katja, do you think European stars are more resistant to shaving the pubic area? I noticed that the European male talent don't groom their body hair like the American guys do. If a European woman weren't making American porn, would she bother with all this hair removal? I ask because I haven't met many European women, and the stereotype is that they (German women in particular) don't shave at all. Is this true?

Twizted6
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1229 Posts
7/05
Posted - Oct 31 2005 : 1:59AM
I agree. It's much better for "Mouth to Vag" resuscitation, especially if your marriage is in trouble.
Mr-Christy Canyon
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Worshipper of the Canyon
135 Posts
5/05
Posted - Oct 31 2005 : 10:27AM

I like bush. But not if it's like something akin to Ferngully the last rainforrest mind you. Hairy, but trimmed and kept please.

I've had completely bare, but it's just not visually appealing to me for whatever reason. I prefer a woman with atleast some pubic hair.

 
KatjaKassin
Senior Member

1257 Posts
5/03
Posted - Oct 31 2005 : 4:00PM
I have always shaved - legs, armpits and pussy partial. I don't think it is true that German girls don't shave. (and we shower too *lol*)
Jacco All-Star Supporter
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2673 Posts
5/04
Posted - Oct 31 2005 : 6:33PM
Ssst, Katja! Don't tell them that European girls shave and shower, before we know it they will all end up in the US and we will be left without prety girls!

Jacco

Wodgers
Member

414 Posts
7/04
Posted - Oct 31 2005 : 7:05PM
Christy Canyon's pussy, if I remember well, certainly wasn't trimmed
Mr-Christy Canyon
Member

Worshipper of the Canyon
135 Posts
5/05
Posted - Nov 1 2005 : 8:32AM
Do your homework and you will see that it certainly was more trimmed in certain videos than in others. For instance, her current grooming is alot more trimmed than it was during the early to mid 90's.

Either way, trimmed or not, Christy's pussy has always been gorgeous to me.

Coming from me, this shouldnt be at all surprising. But this is Christy we're talking about.

woody d
Member

38 Posts
10/05
Posted - Sep 25 2006 : 1:53AM
I wanted to add another post, to bump this up near the top again. Surely there have been some recently issued fully-shaved scenes worth seeing. And, I would add Amber Rayne (not to be confused with Amber Rain ...) and Belicia Avalos to the list of always-fully-shaved.
RandomPrecision
Senior Member

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8175 Posts
3/06
Posted - Sep 25 2006 : 4:58AM
Even as a male, I don't like my own bush (when it's fully grown out). I'm just too lazy to keep it trimmed.

I just don't find a really bushy pussy to be all that attractive. They're harder to keep clean, you can't see anything and it generally doesn't feel as good (for the guy, anyway).

A well-groomed bush is OK....as long as I can see something.

scipio
Senior Member

1901 Posts
2/00
Posted - Sep 25 2006 : 6:08AM
I like groomed, I like bare. Variety is good. Especially if a performer has it one way in some DVDs and another way in others...

ma meeshka
Iconoclastic Member

3939 Posts
4/06
Posted - Sep 25 2006 : 6:31AM
smooth-shaved beavers?

dam.




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