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juha
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Posted - Jan 12 2008 : 9:46PM
Yes, that's probably true.
juha
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Posted - Jan 12 2008 : 9:50PM
I don't know. I never discussed this with a porn girl.
I only know it's not up to me to decide whom she fucks.
RandomPrecision
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Enjoy!
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Posted - Jan 12 2008 : 11:55PM
I guess that makes sense. I hadn't thought of that.
greg
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Thinking real hard about Katsirk
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 12:36AM
^ who a girl works with or doesn't is her own fucking buisness.
Only an asshole would try to interfere with her choice, or try to enforce his standards on her.
There are plenty of girls who do IR , its not like there is a shotage of viewing material.

 
xxaru
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 1:02AM
What it is is discrimination. And it's really sad. The refusal to work with certain actors because of their ethnicity, the depiction of black male actors, and even the classification of "interracial" in and of itself is all racist and discriminatory.
shellshock91
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Believe and you can Achieve
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 1:04AM
IR Topics galore. Here we go again.
conquistador
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Hellhamster.
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 2:06AM
I love online lawyers. So now I am "guilty" of not liking people spouting off about IR? Maybe you can take me to internet court.
Edited by - conquistador on 1/13/2008 2:06:37 AM
Bornyo
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 2:11AM
Tritone you got your accounts mixed up. You're supposed to be "pleasure giver" in this thread. Surely you aren't dumb enough to post in your alt-id's thread. Especially not using the same mannerisms such as bold-texting portions to no effect.
It's to the point where you people who beat the jungle drums of "IR Dodging" are the real racists. Let the girls fuck whomever they chose and let the fans buy the product they like from what's available. How god damned presumptuous to bully girls to fuck any particular person or any particular race for your own masturbatory pleasure.
greg
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Thinking real hard about Katsirk
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 2:16AM
Bornyo that was a perfect answer IMHO.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 2:22AM
This thread is in the wrong forum.
It should be moved to The Porn Pool or World News & Nonsense, although I'm inclined to suggest the latter.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 2:29AM
The more I think about it, it seems to me that we need Drew and Steph to add a new forum:
"Dead Horses: For all those misfit threads on topics that have been beaten into the ground, this is your place to obsess."
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 2:30AM
It would an excellent spot for all the "Are Porn Stars Prostitutes?" threads.
conquistador
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Hellhamster.
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 2:32AM
Can we also put discussions about condoms, "gay" acts in "straight" porn and will xxx please start doing anal (because at it stands she is insulting us, her fans by not doing so) threads there as well?
Zaer
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 2:33AM
If those women only do g/g because they're misandrists then yeah they should be considered as being discriminatory against and hateful of men.
And by logical extension if you have a situation where certain women who don't do blacks on camera because they're racist against blacks then it's the same situation.
Edited by - Zaer on 1/13/2008 2:56:31 AM
 
tritone
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 2:43AM
I don't use Alt-IDs. Never have, never will. I don't hide behind false personas. If I need to say something, I post as myself. I don't know who
"Pleasure Giver" is, but he brought up some good points, so I chimed in.
Bob All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 2:45AM
Absolutely. All topics that are only fit to be picked over by scavengers are welcome.
BlackSix All-Star Supporter
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 7:45AM
Wasn't there a porn girl who joined some neo-nazi skinhead group and generally acted the fool. The irony was that she had done gang bangs with black guys previous to her racist damascus.
I don't really care for this endless debate, but do find it amusing that girls who will let 40+ men cum on their faces, drink piss or what have you refuse to simply have sex with a black man.
ganymede
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 7:50AM
ummmmmm... ok. or not. i've NEVER heard this. from girls in th biz. agents in the biz. as a matter of fact, the best girls care less who they work with.
i love the speculative threads generated by some who spew their personal feelings as fact.
ugh
Pleasure Giver
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 8:05AM
Maybe it's because those girls DONT talk to you.
Have you thought of that???


Edited by - Pleasure Giver on 1/13/2008 8:07:23 AM

Narcissus
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 8:24AM
you've never heard this?
the "best girls care less who they work with." this is an idiotic thing to say. don't you mean the "best whores care less who they work with?" some girls try to maintain their dignity in the porn biz. a girl that can stick to her guns and refrain from working with anyone that she wouldn't fuck in normal life... now that's a great girl. that's a girl that keeps her integrity intact. not that common among porn stars. however, it's a very respectable thing that some girls can do it.
speculative? i'm sure most people in these ADT threats have a porn star friend or two in real life.
agents don't care what work they slide toward a girl. they make money on anything she does. what do they care?
Edited by - Narcissus on 1/13/2008 8:32:15 AM
Pleasure Giver
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 8:45AM
Hmmm, but when a porn girls ‘so called’ dignity and integrity means to OPENLY ACCEPT taking part in the most sickening degrading acts, like being:-
1. Severely slapped about while being brutally throat fucked
2. Gang fucked, spat on and cummed on by 40 guys
3. Pissed on
4. Made to lick dirty toilet bowls
5. Get their head flushed down the toilet bowl while being fucked doggy style
6. Have people shit all over them as they take part in scat movies
7. Performing bestiality sex with various farm animals on film
THEN turn around and say that to sleep with a Blackman is beneath her. You have got to question which part of the NUT-HOUSE was she living in before she decided to stink up the porn biz with her foul presence.

Edited by - Pleasure Giver on 1/13/2008 9:35:37 AM

conquistador
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Hellhamster.
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 9:02AM
If you can't accept what people set as their own and personal sexual boundaries maybe porn is not the best hobby for you.
You know porn girls post here right? Just look at how much they have to say in this thread. See how many of them have thanked you for your helpful and highly insightful opinions about their careers.
Just because you are a fan doesn't mean you can guide someone's career moves especially in a business that involves bodily fluids being exchanged. They do what they want and you can buy what appeals to you or doesn't.
There is nothing malicious or racist about a girl's decisions about who she fucks. Unless she starts saying that she hates black people her not having sex with them is meaningless. It doesn't hurt black people when a white girl doesn't want to fuck them, when she spray paints a racist slogan on your house maybe her "racism" will be confirmed and your claims will be valid.
This crusading is pointless.
It's silly for me to bitch that Rocco doesn't fuck enormous fat chicks in his movies. He'll fuck who he wants to and presumably who he is attracted to. He's never said he hates all fat people, but he doesn't fuck them on film. He can have whatever reasons he wants not to be attracted to whoever he wants. Same deal with girls who don't do IR.
Performers do what they want with their own bodies, like it or not, take it or leave it.
This debate has happened countless times before on these pages and I can find no evidence of any porn girl ever posting a 'thank you' to anyone beating the interracial drums.

Edited by - conquistador on 1/13/2008 9:13:32 AM

Narcissus
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 9:09AM

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Hmmm, but when a porn girls ‘so called’ dignity and integrity means to OPENLY ACCEPT taking part in the most sickening degrading acts, like being
1. Severely slapped about,
2. Spat on
3. Pissed on
4. Made to lick to toilet bowl
5. Get their head flushed down the toilet bowl while being fucked doggy style
6. Shat on and taking part in scat movies
7. Performing bestiality sex with various farm animals on film
THEN turn around and say that to sleep with Blackman is beneath her. You have got to question which part of the NUT-HOUSE was she living in before she decided to stink up the porn biz with her foul presence.

some of those girls have their own issues or turn-ons. whatever you may call them. the girls that aren't being forced into those acts either need the money they're getting for the scene pretty badly or they enjoy it on some level. believe it or not there are masochistic women in the adult biz. to think there isn't would be foolish.
some of those disgusting things you mentioned are going a bit far. i couldn't see how someone could ever getting jacking enjoyment out of some of that far out stuff. but that's just me. i'm a sick fuck in plenty of my own ways. but thankfully none of those.
Hitit
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 9:55AM
Uhmm.. some of the best girls are very professsional and can handle alot of different types of guys/scenes/situations. And even have fun doing it. The result is a great porn. Strange that you as a fan don't appreciate that. And who cares if you call them whores? A good whore don't deserve respect?
 
Pleasure Giver
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 9:56AM
The funny thing is Narcissus, I heard the statement that you've mentioned come from the mouths of many IR dodgers. They CLAIM that they will refrain from working with anyone that they wouldn't fuck in normal life and that they want to keeps their so-called dignity and integrity intact. So that means, they partake in all those sordid activities below in their 'NORMAL LIVES'???
1. Severely slapped about while being brutally throat fucked
2. Gang fucked, spat on and cummed on by 40 guys
3. Pissed on
4. Made to lick dirty toilet bowls
5. Get their head flushed down the toilet bowl while being fucked doggy style
6. Have people shit all over them as they taking part in scat movies
7. Performing bestiality sex with various farm animals on film
So when she involuntarily admits to partaking in those activities in her normal day-to-day life, she still has the audacity to CLAIM dignity and integrity by refusing to perform with a Blackman.
IS THERE ANYTHING MORE RIDICULOUS???
Believe me; it doesn't get more ridiculous than that. I'm sure KKK members must be scratching their head in embarrassment at the girl doing this.
LOL hahahahaha

Edited by - Pleasure Giver on 1/13/2008 10:09:45 AM

ganymede
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 10:25AM
let's seeeee..... oh. girls i've spoken with.... met.... AND GOT TO AMERICA.
jazmine
tiffany holliday
sandra romain
dillan lauren
sandra romain does NOT do anal or fuck balck guys in real life. but she does in movies.
jazmine HATED blowjobs and gagging in real life... but she does them in movies.
tiffany holliday HATED and "would never do" an anal cream pie in real life... but she does it in movies.
mandingo retired from anal... but still did it after he said that.
i go back again to these "myths." maybe 20 years ago. not now. and i've not heard that these myths are a fear or concern for people in the biz.

money and work talks... silly

Narcissus
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 10:42AM
i wouldn't imagine it's a very high number of women in porn that lick toliet bowls but won't do interracial. maybe you should find that number out before you try to make your point. and then for the girls you do find that do unspeakable acts but won't do interracial... maybe ask her about her parents. how she was brought up, etc. maybe it's her parents that put those ideas in her head. for the most part, at any rate... the talent is blameless. at least in my opinion.
MrFuckinSunshine
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 11:23AM
"LOUD NOISES!!!" - Brick Tamland.
illmatic
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 11:28AM
I don't think this is tritone's alt-id. There is a far more annoying, British guy over at Mr. Marcus forums that types in all bold and uses words like blackmen.
Hannah Westxxx
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 12:42PM
IR..
I often have to defend myself about why I don't shoot this.
Let me start by addressing that IR helps some girl's careers. I know an agent who may get a type of model who looks a certain way and the only way he will rep her is if she does IR. I didn't find this ignorant.. I found it to be a business decision. AND she booked.. for mostly IR.
I don't think IR hinders anyone's career and this has never been expressed to me by any agent.. in fact, my agent loves a girl who will do IR because she makes a lot of money.
I do not do IR. Yes, I am from Alabama. Yes, I know what you are thinking.
BUT THAT'S YOU STEREO-TYPING.
It makes me a racist because I am from AL and I don't have sex with black guys.
Now that is just ignorant.
I have never been sexually attracted to a black guy. I have never been approached by one who had wit that charmed me out of my panties. I understand your point about girls who say they won't shoot something on film unless they have done it in their private lives.. then they do other degrading things..
But the truth of the matter is..
licking a toilet bowl while giving head is much more appealing to me than IR simply because my nasty ass has fantasised about it. I enjoy being slapped around a little. I enjoy all of those things and for the most part, I do them on and off cam.
So your theory holds little truth.. but I am willing to look at it objectively.
I do not feel like I am above anyone. I do not think I am better than crack addicts, blacks, gay people, poverty, disease inflicted, youth, ect ect... The difference between you and I are the personal decisions we make for ourselves. You may have made better or worse and visa versa.
Just because I would rather lick a toilet bowl and be spit on doesn't make me a racist. That's absurd.
It's simply about personal preference.
My family is well aware of what I do. My father doesn't talk about it, but he tries his best to show subtle support and to let me know he loves me. My mother thinks what I do is best thing in the world. She sees it as a feminist move and a confident move. The only question that plagued my mother was, "Will you be doing gang bangs and interracial?"
My mother and I do not share the same faults.
However.. I knew these were two things that she didn't want me to do. She is aware that I have never done these things off cam. We are an open family and the women have to live vicariously through my youth. I assured her that they were options that had not been considered.
My family is against IR for the most part.(they would love me no matter what.. it is just something they don't encourage). Things may have been different around here when they were growing up.. but it's not little house on the prairie anymore. I went to a public school were race was 50/50 and everyone got along just fine. I had many black friends. I had a lot of black girl friends.. and we all went to the same sleep overs. I think the older generation is more aware of what color their skin is. Just the other day I went to a beauty store because I wanted to get hair extensions. The only shops that do extensions in my semi small town are all ran by black women. Which was fine with me.. I went in and sat my little ass down and waited my turn.. but you know what the lady said to me? "We don't do white girls in here." She didn't even ask me what I needed.. never mind the fact that I had a nice amount of cash in my pocket. Never mind the fact that I had an appointment to be there.. there were no signs that said no white people allowed.. but I was still turned away.. and I walked out laughing.. take me and my monies else where.. punk ass people. So, as far as I am concerned.. there are punk ass people everywhere.
I don't find Ir a big deal. BUT I HATE when black people put this label on themselves. It's like some sort of cry for attention.. So stop being in that statistic. Black people tend to blame all their failures on white people. "This happened because I am black." No.. shit just happens.. to everyone. Skin color is not a label or an excuse. You said it yourself, it's 2008. So please stop labeling others and using YOUR skin color as an excuse.
Look at things objectively.
And laugh at narrow mindedness.
Hannah West ;)
caroline-NL
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 1:15PM
Quite a lot of porn movies are bad, because many models do things that they dont enjoy at all.
I am no porn actress, but if, I think I wouldnt play with asian men. I am no racist, I had a japanese girlfriend for 8 years. Their parents liked me and vice versa. But asian men dont arouse me at all. I really love hot asian women - but Ive never met an asian man, that aroused me. And I am sure, that the few asian men that met/saw me, also werent aroused at all. ( I have black hairs )
Is that racism ? I think not. If I would take part in such a scene, I would be acting very, very bad. So I wouldnt do it at all.
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Racism isnt an attribute inherent to the "whites" only. There are black racists and japanese racists, who think of theirselves as the "superior race".
If I had troubles with coloured men, who were lurking around my apartment, or played soccer with trashcans after midnight, and I complainted and shouted : "Please be silent !", they cried back: "You are a racist." Thats stupid ! I would even say this to my own father, if he would make such a spectacle at night.
Ive also seen this " why is model x not doing xyz " ? In european boards, Ive very rarely seen these questions. Here it seems to be an "everyday" question. Many models do xyz, if they earn more $, but then you complain: "Why isnt she enjoying it"?

caroline-NL
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 1:24PM
Hannah, my mother would kill me, if I would perform in porn. You really have luck.
( She even wants to kill me, because I only collect and watch porn )
Hannah Westxxx
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 1:44PM
I am a very lucky duck. My mother is my best friend.. she never limited my imagination.. that's not to say this is what she dreamed that I would do all my life..
But what is she to do? disown me? refuse me dinner?
She said it was okay to be a whore.. as long as I never carried myself that way..
undercover whore indeed.
thanks mama.
wheat
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You want a toe? I can get you a toe
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 1:50PM
I always thought racism was when you treat another human being as a lesser entity.
Deny them the basic rights you expect simply because they have a different skin colour.
Getting a blowjob is NOT a basic human right, we have the right to discriminate when it comes to choosing our sexual partners just as if somebody abstains from sex they aren't biased against the whole human race they are making a choice about what they do with their body.
I personally have never had sex with a black guy, does that mean im not only racist but homophobic to boot?
No of course not i treat people i meet the same no matter their skin colour or their religious upbringing, but who i have sex with does not come into that equation.
 
Tobin
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 2:03PM
Yes, if due to perceived stereotypes.
Hannah Westxxx
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 2:03PM
EXACTLY! It's all about preference. Good example.
Edited by - Hannah Westxxx on 1/13/2008 2:04:38 PM
xxaru
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 2:20PM
Preference or not, it's still discrimination... and when you discriminate simply because of peoples ethnicity (or race) then that's called racial discrimination or racism.
xxaru
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 2:26PM
You're in denial.
Edited by - xxaru on 1/13/2008 2:26:33 PM
gotporn
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 2:28PM

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wheat
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You want a toe? I can get you a toe
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 2:29PM
What are you nuts?
it's not discrimination if you choose not to have sex with somebody.
Sex is not a basic human right, some of you have some strange ideas on what you think you are entitled too sexually by others.
xxaru
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 2:31PM
Look bro, if I say I'll only have sex with blondes... then I'm discriminating against brunettes and redheads. It's the same concept when it comes to ethnicity. It has nothing to do with basic human rights.
velliun
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 2:43PM
While I don't believe that racist is the proper term for someone who patently refuses to "perform" with a person with darker skin, such a decision can certainly be attributed to racial prejudice. No one should be forced to do something against their will, but I don't see anything wrong with exposing and critiquing the flawed logic and insulting excuses that certain porn stars have put forward over the years to justify their prejudices.
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